| Fake Hoops Match Thread 09:17 - Dec 12 with 27806 views | Superhoops2808 |
Been on these forums for years and several will remember me from the paddocks as a former ST holder, but thought as its been an age wait for fans to return to HQ I would start a match thread for the first time ever...
Prediction:
3-1 to the real hoops with at least one Dykes penalty
Hope all who go to the ground today enjoy  |  | | |  |
| Fake Hoops Match Thread on 18:29 - Dec 12 with 1884 views | TGRRRSSS |
I wouldn't mind Jackett he certainly knows the division, and would do a reasonable job, not sure he's been relegated but I might be wrong.
Hughes has never been relegated either of course....
Oh yes he knows QPR too |  | | |
| Fake Hoops Match Thread on 20:15 - Dec 12 with 1669 views | rsonist |
You could say we've gone back to sleepwalking towards relegation instead of nosediving. Problem is, I quite like the dreams. |  | | |
| Fake Hoops Match Thread on 20:31 - Dec 12 with 1621 views | RangersDave |
Crazy that its seems / sounds, but on Christmas day we may be in the relegation zone, with a god awful goal record, win record, and a defence so leaky it should be called a sieve.
How many goals in 2 years against?
How many actual wins since Warburton arrived?
And here we are today ....19th and seemingly going for another record, plus another league.
Sooner or later our problems.... and i put Les and Mark at the top of that list, need to stop being so! |  |
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| Fake Hoops Match Thread on 08:57 - Dec 13 with 1372 views | TGRRRSSS |
Warburtons Managerial record from Wiki
Team From To Record
P W D L Win %
Brentford 10 December 2013 30 May 2015 78 40 16 22 51.28
Rangers 15 June 2015 10 February 2017 82 54 15 13 65.85
Nottingham Forest 14 March 2017 31 December 2017 37 15 3 19 40.54
Queens Park Rangers 8 May 2019 Present 69 21 17 31 30.43
Total 266 130 51 85 48.87 | | | |
| Fake Hoops Match Thread on 08:59 - Dec 13 with 1366 views | TGRRRSSS |
I cant find the exact stats so far in terms of goals for against etc. particularly for us. | | | |
| Fake Hoops Match Thread on 09:05 - Dec 13 with 1355 views | TGRRRSSS |
Leagu games only
2019/20
Goals for 67 Goals Against 76 - -9 GD over 46 games
2020/21 Thus far
Goals for 18 Goals Against 26 GD 28 - GD in 18 games -8 | | | |
| Fake Hoops Match Thread on 09:31 - Dec 13 with 1331 views | Antti_Heinola |
| Fake Hoops Match Thread on 18:14 - Dec 12 by paulparker |
Lee Bowyer
Mark Robbins
Paul Cook
Danny Cowley
Nigel Pearson
Kenny Jackett
To me those are realistic targets if Warburton goes |
Lee Bowyer - scum, no thanks
Mark Robbins - no better than what we have, and v unlikely to leave a safe job to come to a place where fans will be calling for his head inside 11 months if we're not top 6.
Paul Cook - maybe
Danny Cowley - no thanks - spell at Hudd spoke volumes.
Nigel Pearson - absolutely no chance
Kenny Jackett - love him, but you'd be saying the same things you are now within 18 months. Love him, but he's demonstrably a league one manager.
If that's the pool we're looking at, better we stick. The only viable option unless we go abroad is Ainsworth - he'd come, money not an issue, desperate to manage the club, but the usual section would be booing him within 18 months (tactically naive, out of his depth blah blah) and we'd ruin a cult legend. |  |
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| Fake Hoops Match Thread on 09:48 - Dec 13 with 1297 views | paulparker |
| Fake Hoops Match Thread on 09:31 - Dec 13 by Antti_Heinola |
Lee Bowyer - scum, no thanks
Mark Robbins - no better than what we have, and v unlikely to leave a safe job to come to a place where fans will be calling for his head inside 11 months if we're not top 6.
Paul Cook - maybe
Danny Cowley - no thanks - spell at Hudd spoke volumes.
Nigel Pearson - absolutely no chance
Kenny Jackett - love him, but you'd be saying the same things you are now within 18 months. Love him, but he's demonstrably a league one manager.
If that's the pool we're looking at, better we stick. The only viable option unless we go abroad is Ainsworth - he'd come, money not an issue, desperate to manage the club, but the usual section would be booing him within 18 months (tactically naive, out of his depth blah blah) and we'd ruin a cult legend. |
Danny Cowley did wonders at Lincoln and kept Huddersfield up
Lee Bowyer brings Young players through , plays good football , yeah he did wrong when he was a young man as a lot of people do , seems to have changed , don’t people deserve second chances ? Trevor Sinclair is back being a pundit after his brush with the law
Paul cook got Wigan promoted & kept them up and would have finished above us if it wasn’t for some shady owners
Kenny jackett done a good job everywhere he has been and would steady the ship
Pearson not exactly swimming in offers at the moment if it was a deal to the end of the season then Why not
Mark Robbins works well with a small budget and has worked miracles at Coventry is a much better manager than Warburton
All of these names are within our budget and would be tempted I think to come here |  |
| And Bowles is onside, Swinburne has come rushing out of his goal , what can Bowles do here , onto the left foot no, on to the right foot
That’s there that’s two, and that’s Bowles
Brian Moore
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| Fake Hoops Match Thread on 10:32 - Dec 13 with 1248 views | Wegerles_Stairs |
| Fake Hoops Match Thread on 17:39 - Dec 12 by BazzaInTheLoft |
I don’t think a manager who managed Brentford for many years and a Old Firm team can be called out of his depth.
As someone else wiser than me has said, we are underperforming not under achieving.
As for Les, he is doing exactly what is asked of him. Wages down, youngsters up. The signings we’ve spent money on are all doing ok, including our top scorer.
There is no debate about the results though PP. We have wasted so many opportunities. [Post edited 12 Dec 2020 17:42]
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I disagree regarding Les. Under his tenure, we've gone from being a Premier League club to potential relegation candidates to League 1, relying on the likes of Wycombe (a fourth division team a couple of seasons ago) to stay up. He had several years of parachute payments yet the highest we ever finished was 12th - and other clubs having more money is one of the excuses we now use to say why we're 19th. We can't have it both ways.
He replaced a proven Championship specialist with Jimmy Floyd Haaselbaink. The other managerial appointments under his tenure have hardly been overwhelming successes either.
Yes, he has succeeded in cutting the wage bill but that's not difficult; the challenge is with remaining competitive and creating a side that is in the upper reaches of the division, not down with the dead wood. Similarly, promoting youth players is meritorious, but it needs to be balanced with smart scouting and canny recruitment, which looking at our squad, has generally not been the case.
Giving Les a free pass because he was a fantastic player for us is exactly why Fernandes appointed him to 'learn on the job' - to avert scrutiny from his own incompetence. [Post edited 13 Dec 2020 10:36]
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| Fake Hoops Match Thread on 10:42 - Dec 13 with 1231 views | Watford_Ranger |
Didn’t we nearly appoint Bowyer before?
If we’re going to make a change which I’m now close to being not bothered either way about after being more pro-Warbs than most, we could do a lot worse.
Whether he’d want to come here I’m not so sure. | | | |
| Fake Hoops Match Thread on 11:05 - Dec 13 with 1184 views | essextaxiboy |
Here is a left field one to wind you up on a Sunday morning ..... Barton
His Fleetwood team play lovely football , IMO he only lost the playoff semi to Wycombe because of a sending off in the first leg , the contrast in the style of play was like chalk and cheese.
I am still for given Warburton time to sort things out though [Post edited 13 Dec 2020 11:07]
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| Fake Hoops Match Thread on 11:15 - Dec 13 with 1139 views | 2Thomas2Bowles |
| Fake Hoops Match Thread on 11:05 - Dec 13 by essextaxiboy |
Here is a left field one to wind you up on a Sunday morning ..... Barton
His Fleetwood team play lovely football , IMO he only lost the playoff semi to Wycombe because of a sending off in the first leg , the contrast in the style of play was like chalk and cheese.
I am still for given Warburton time to sort things out though [Post edited 13 Dec 2020 11:07]
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Plenty never wanted Warnock. |  |
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| Fake Hoops Match Thread on 11:20 - Dec 13 with 1150 views | ted_hendrix |
Yesterday could have been worse had the fakes two leading goal scorers Lucas Joao and Yakou Meite been playing instead of being injured. |  |
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| Fake Hoops Match Thread on 11:42 - Dec 13 with 1120 views | Rangersw12 |
| Fake Hoops Match Thread on 11:05 - Dec 13 by essextaxiboy |
Here is a left field one to wind you up on a Sunday morning ..... Barton
His Fleetwood team play lovely football , IMO he only lost the playoff semi to Wycombe because of a sending off in the first leg , the contrast in the style of play was like chalk and cheese.
I am still for given Warburton time to sort things out though [Post edited 13 Dec 2020 11:07]
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I don't think I could support a team managed by Barton to be honest | | | |
| Fake Hoops Match Thread on 12:27 - Dec 13 with 1079 views | Hayesender |
| Fake Hoops Match Thread on 11:05 - Dec 13 by essextaxiboy |
Here is a left field one to wind you up on a Sunday morning ..... Barton
His Fleetwood team play lovely football , IMO he only lost the playoff semi to Wycombe because of a sending off in the first leg , the contrast in the style of play was like chalk and cheese.
I am still for given Warburton time to sort things out though [Post edited 13 Dec 2020 11:07]
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Let's be honest here, most football fans would take Pol Pots and Adolf Hitlers love child in charge if it meant a winning team |  |
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| Fake Hoops Match Thread on 12:34 - Dec 13 with 1071 views | JustJules |
With reference to the longstanding John Jensen Charity Award tradition, I did notice that yesterday was Michael Olise's 19th birthday. We should have spotted that goal on the cards! |  | | |
| Fake Hoops Match Thread on 12:46 - Dec 13 with 1056 views | Watford_Ranger |
| Fake Hoops Match Thread on 12:27 - Dec 13 by Hayesender |
Let's be honest here, most football fans would take Pol Pots and Adolf Hitlers love child in charge if it meant a winning team |
Some of Pol Pot’s tactics were revolutionary. | | | |
| Fake Hoops Match Thread on 13:30 - Dec 13 with 981 views | 2Thomas2Bowles |
| Fake Hoops Match Thread on 12:27 - Dec 13 by Hayesender |
Let's be honest here, most football fans would take Pol Pots and Adolf Hitlers love child in charge if it meant a winning team |
They had a love child? | |
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| Fake Hoops Match Thread on 13:49 - Dec 13 with 979 views | ManinBlack |
| Fake Hoops Match Thread on 11:20 - Dec 13 by ted_hendrix |
Yesterday could have been worse had the fakes two leading goal scorers Lucas Joao and Yakou Meite been playing instead of being injured. |
I have to agree with you. When I saw that those two strikers were not playing I felt this was good news for our defence and our odds of winning increased. This might explain why Reading sat back yet still they won which sums up our mediocrity.
I know that rebuilding is a long process but the idea is to see a gradual improvement season after season. In my eyes we are worse than last season so if we are in a relegation battle that is a backwards step as we were never in the reckoning to go down in the previous season. |  | | |
| Fake Hoops Match Thread on 13:59 - Dec 13 with 955 views | RangersDave |
Think of it.....
Fleetwood, Lincoln, Shrewsbury, Rochdale, Portsmouth, Charlton, Oxford, Wimbledon..... all new grounds for me to visit next season the way its going! | |
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| Fake Hoops Match Thread on 14:35 - Dec 13 with 929 views | BrianMcCarthy |
| Fake Hoops Match Thread on 10:32 - Dec 13 by Wegerles_Stairs |
I disagree regarding Les. Under his tenure, we've gone from being a Premier League club to potential relegation candidates to League 1, relying on the likes of Wycombe (a fourth division team a couple of seasons ago) to stay up. He had several years of parachute payments yet the highest we ever finished was 12th - and other clubs having more money is one of the excuses we now use to say why we're 19th. We can't have it both ways.
He replaced a proven Championship specialist with Jimmy Floyd Haaselbaink. The other managerial appointments under his tenure have hardly been overwhelming successes either.
Yes, he has succeeded in cutting the wage bill but that's not difficult; the challenge is with remaining competitive and creating a side that is in the upper reaches of the division, not down with the dead wood. Similarly, promoting youth players is meritorious, but it needs to be balanced with smart scouting and canny recruitment, which looking at our squad, has generally not been the case.
Giving Les a free pass because he was a fantastic player for us is exactly why Fernandes appointed him to 'learn on the job' - to avert scrutiny from his own incompetence. [Post edited 13 Dec 2020 10:36]
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This is Ferdinand's first managerial appointment.
I think he's done an excellent job in every other aspect of the club and has rebuilt us from the shambles we were when relegated into a well-run club on an enforced budget.
I think he will rightly be judged on appointing Warburton as it was his decision, in the main. I think Warburton did an excellent job last year finishing 13th spending only £50k of the millions we took in in transfers. This year is looking shaky right now and I think we should be looking at every possibility regardless of reputations. |  |
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| Fake Hoops Match Thread on 14:43 - Dec 13 with 892 views | Wegerles_Stairs |
| Fake Hoops Match Thread on 14:35 - Dec 13 by BrianMcCarthy |
This is Ferdinand's first managerial appointment.
I think he's done an excellent job in every other aspect of the club and has rebuilt us from the shambles we were when relegated into a well-run club on an enforced budget.
I think he will rightly be judged on appointing Warburton as it was his decision, in the main. I think Warburton did an excellent job last year finishing 13th spending only £50k of the millions we took in in transfers. This year is looking shaky right now and I think we should be looking at every possibility regardless of reputations. |
He took over before we were relegated. | | | |
| Fake Hoops Match Thread on 14:49 - Dec 13 with 878 views | BrianMcCarthy |
| Fake Hoops Match Thread on 14:43 - Dec 13 by Wegerles_Stairs |
He took over before we were relegated. |
Accepted. Poor wording by me there. | |
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| Fake Hoops Match Thread on 15:04 - Dec 13 with 842 views | traininvain |
| Fake Hoops Match Thread on 11:05 - Dec 13 by essextaxiboy |
Here is a left field one to wind you up on a Sunday morning ..... Barton
His Fleetwood team play lovely football , IMO he only lost the playoff semi to Wycombe because of a sending off in the first leg , the contrast in the style of play was like chalk and cheese.
I am still for given Warburton time to sort things out though [Post edited 13 Dec 2020 11:07]
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Sorry I downvoted before reading the final paragraph. It was the mere thought of Barton managing QPR! |  | | |
| Fake Hoops Match Thread on 15:23 - Dec 13 with 804 views | francisbowles |
| Fake Hoops Match Thread on 10:32 - Dec 13 by Wegerles_Stairs |
I disagree regarding Les. Under his tenure, we've gone from being a Premier League club to potential relegation candidates to League 1, relying on the likes of Wycombe (a fourth division team a couple of seasons ago) to stay up. He had several years of parachute payments yet the highest we ever finished was 12th - and other clubs having more money is one of the excuses we now use to say why we're 19th. We can't have it both ways.
He replaced a proven Championship specialist with Jimmy Floyd Haaselbaink. The other managerial appointments under his tenure have hardly been overwhelming successes either.
Yes, he has succeeded in cutting the wage bill but that's not difficult; the challenge is with remaining competitive and creating a side that is in the upper reaches of the division, not down with the dead wood. Similarly, promoting youth players is meritorious, but it needs to be balanced with smart scouting and canny recruitment, which looking at our squad, has generally not been the case.
Giving Les a free pass because he was a fantastic player for us is exactly why Fernandes appointed him to 'learn on the job' - to avert scrutiny from his own incompetence. [Post edited 13 Dec 2020 10:36]
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Who was the proven Championship specialist that JFH replaced?
He replaced Chris Ramsey, whose part time 'advisor' was in temporary charge until JFH commenced his new role.
NW had been quoted as saying he didn't want the job, he wanted a part time DOF role. His wife was ill at the time. He appeared to change his mind about week four of his temporary four match (of which he missed one to look after his wife), by which time JFH had accepted the job. | | | |
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