| Share sale 11:34 - Jun 3 with 66030 views | fitzochris |
I understand the shares owned by Chris Dunphy, Bill Goodwin and Paul Hazelhurst have been sold to a US-based concern.
Keep an eye on Companies House over the coming weeks. |  |
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| Share sale on 11:53 - Jun 3 with 14062 views | judd |
That's about 30% of issued shares, I reckon.
I wonder if there are others to be snapped up - Jim Marsh, for example? |  |
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| Share sale on 12:00 - Jun 3 with 14036 views | 442Dale |
When the shares subject came up a few months back, someone kindly posted a breakdown of who owned them and percentages - anyone know where that is/could it be posted again? |  |
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| Share sale on 12:04 - Jun 3 with 14026 views | judd |
| Share sale on 12:00 - Jun 3 by 442Dale |
When the shares subject came up a few months back, someone kindly posted a breakdown of who owned them and percentages - anyone know where that is/could it be posted again? |
https://beta.companieshouse.gov.uk/company/00111019/filing-history
Confirmation statement from June 2019 I think is the relevant document | |
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| Share sale on 12:19 - Jun 3 with 13978 views | D_Alien |
Not being familiar with the machinations involved in shareholdings, would anyone with greater insight like to comment on what possible interest a "US-based concern" might have in holding shares in Rochdale FC/Denehurst Park? |  |
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| Share sale on 12:24 - Jun 3 with 13965 views | judd |
| Share sale on 12:19 - Jun 3 by D_Alien |
Not being familiar with the machinations involved in shareholdings, would anyone with greater insight like to comment on what possible interest a "US-based concern" might have in holding shares in Rochdale FC/Denehurst Park? |
Let's see who they are first, then we can perhaps put some meat on the bones.
Wonder what drove CD, in particular, to sell his shares to an outsider, so to speak? | |
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| Share sale on 12:28 - Jun 3 with 13945 views | D_Alien |
| Share sale on 12:24 - Jun 3 by judd |
Let's see who they are first, then we can perhaps put some meat on the bones.
Wonder what drove CD, in particular, to sell his shares to an outsider, so to speak? |
So the "US-based concern" isn't as yet particularly identifiable in a business sense
But CD and the other former shareholders must know who they are or more importantly, what they're about? Or can shares simply be put on the market and bought by the highest bidder?
As you say, meat on bones... | |
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| Share sale on 12:43 - Jun 3 with 13904 views | judd |
| Share sale on 12:28 - Jun 3 by D_Alien |
So the "US-based concern" isn't as yet particularly identifiable in a business sense
But CD and the other former shareholders must know who they are or more importantly, what they're about? Or can shares simply be put on the market and bought by the highest bidder?
As you say, meat on bones... |
I expect that the new shareholders will be listed in the confirmation statement due this month at Companies House.
Whether as a corporate body or individuals, who knows?
As for how they were sold - can only speculate. I would imagine the sale of Rochdale shares is a very rare occurrence, probably only ever done between fans of the club in previous years. | |
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| Share sale on 13:12 - Jun 3 with 13820 views | fitzochris |
I would wait until the Companies House statement before even believing it at this stage. | |
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| Share sale on 13:15 - Jun 3 with 13807 views | ColDale |
| Share sale on 12:00 - Jun 3 by 442Dale |
When the shares subject came up a few months back, someone kindly posted a breakdown of who owned them and percentages - anyone know where that is/could it be posted again? |
17.1% in total based on last register Ive had |  | | |
| Share sale on 13:20 - Jun 3 with 13771 views | sandylaner |
Someone told me a couple of months ago that he had heard US based people had bought into the club...sounds like there might be something to it. |  | | |
| Share sale on 13:21 - Jun 3 with 13768 views | tony_roch975 |
| Share sale on 12:00 - Jun 3 by 442Dale |
When the shares subject came up a few months back, someone kindly posted a breakdown of who owned them and percentages - anyone know where that is/could it be posted again? |
Figures I have as at March are:
Chris Dunphy - 46010
Bill Goodwin - 12600
Paul Hazlehurst -16075
Total 74685 representing 15% of the total | |
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| Share sale on 13:21 - Jun 3 with 13765 views | SuddenLad |
| Share sale on 13:12 - Jun 3 by fitzochris |
I would wait until the Companies House statement before even believing it at this stage. |
Surely you trust your 'sources', so if we now have to wait to see whether it's true, why put it out there if it's not confirmed? It only creates a rumour frenzy. |  |
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| Share sale on 13:21 - Jun 3 with 13762 views | 442Dale |
Think someone went to the trouble of giving a breakdown of the rough percentages that the main shareholders had. Could be imagining it of course! May have a search about later.
Edit. Thanks for the replies, was also looking at where main shareholdings were across the board, not just those of mentioned in the thread, but cheers! [Post edited 3 Jun 2020 13:24]
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| Share sale on 13:28 - Jun 3 with 13719 views | tony_roch975 |
| Share sale on 13:21 - Jun 3 by 442Dale |
Think someone went to the trouble of giving a breakdown of the rough percentages that the main shareholders had. Could be imagining it of course! May have a search about later.
Edit. Thanks for the replies, was also looking at where main shareholdings were across the board, not just those of mentioned in the thread, but cheers! [Post edited 3 Jun 2020 13:24]
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Use Judd's file, tick Confirmation Statements Box - select top file (24/6/19)
ps - Board held 37% of shares in March [Post edited 3 Jun 2020 13:30]
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| Share sale on 14:05 - Jun 3 with 13633 views | fitzochris |
| Share sale on 13:21 - Jun 3 by SuddenLad |
Surely you trust your 'sources', so if we now have to wait to see whether it's true, why put it out there if it's not confirmed? It only creates a rumour frenzy. |
Sorry, don’t misunderstand me, Chris Dunphy has definitely sold his shares - to Dan Altman, who bought into Swansea a few years ago.
But there is more that I won’t say until the statement is issued because it may or may not have come to pass. [Post edited 3 Jun 2020 22:37]
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| Share sale on 14:09 - Jun 3 with 13619 views | 100notout |
| Share sale on 13:21 - Jun 3 by 442Dale |
Think someone went to the trouble of giving a breakdown of the rough percentages that the main shareholders had. Could be imagining it of course! May have a search about later.
Edit. Thanks for the replies, was also looking at where main shareholdings were across the board, not just those of mentioned in the thread, but cheers! [Post edited 3 Jun 2020 13:24]
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New shares by TTNYear 7 Mar 2020 19:46Apparently new/more shares are being issued from the club... this needs discussing.
Notably David Kilpatrick, Graham Morris and Dale Trust own c67k shares between them which is c13% of the shares in issue | |
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| Share sale on 14:33 - Jun 3 with 13544 views | fitzochris |
Chris Dunphy was talking to Altman as early as while he was still chairman and believes him a very credible investor.
I understand other shareholders have also been in contact with Altman recently. | |
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| Share sale on 14:56 - Jun 3 with 13468 views | judd |
| Share sale on 11:53 - Jun 3 by judd |
That's about 30% of issued shares, I reckon.
I wonder if there are others to be snapped up - Jim Marsh, for example? |
My bad maths - mixed up the aggregate value with the number allotted. | |
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| Share sale on 14:59 - Jun 3 with 13456 views | Dickster |
| Share sale on 14:33 - Jun 3 by fitzochris |
Chris Dunphy was talking to Altman as early as while he was still chairman and believes him a very credible investor.
I understand other shareholders have also been in contact with Altman recently. |
Why the drip feeding of info? You start the post with "US based concern" and slowly reveal the US based concerns ID. Is it for the attention? | | | |
| Share sale on 15:00 - Jun 3 with 13446 views | fitzochris |
| Share sale on 14:59 - Jun 3 by Dickster |
Why the drip feeding of info? You start the post with "US based concern" and slowly reveal the US based concerns ID. Is it for the attention? |
Yes. Yes it is. Mama. | |
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| Share sale on 15:00 - Jun 3 with 13445 views | judd |
| Share sale on 14:33 - Jun 3 by fitzochris |
Chris Dunphy was talking to Altman as early as while he was still chairman and believes him a very credible investor.
I understand other shareholders have also been in contact with Altman recently. |
They have been in contact with him, or he has been in contact with them?
Is there anything in this proposed share issue and restriction of shareholders rights that would be covered at the EGM that relates to a potential takeover/majority shareholding?
I wonder why Altman did not go through with his investment when CD was chairman? | |
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| Share sale on 15:08 - Jun 3 with 13404 views | fermin |
'We think that one of the best ways to monetize analytics is to go to Europe, buy a lower division club and get promoted. We think that’s a great way to create value for investors.'
Somehow that rings alarm bells with me. I am not sure I want the club to be an investment vehicle and would we really make money in the Championship? It is a big if that we would get there anyway? Wouldn't it be a bit of change in the club culture? Perhaps I misunderstand how these sort of things and we are in a bit of a different financial climate now, I suppose. |  | | |
| Share sale on 16:18 - Jun 3 with 13234 views | ncfc_chalky |
It's got "Munto" written all over it  |  |
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| Share sale on 16:26 - Jun 3 with 13210 views | judd |
| Share sale on 16:18 - Jun 3 by ncfc_chalky |
It's got "Munto" written all over it |
How so? | |
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