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Cooper Out on 10:09 - Feb 15 with 2476 viewsmonmouth

Cooper Out on 08:48 - Feb 15 by Jinxy

Hi, how are you doing?

Sorry, to answer your question - not really. It's like sitting down to a bad meal and being asked to choose a new one without seeing the menu! I'm sure there are many up and coming coaches, with some experience of club football, who could not do worse. As I've said before, Rangel (and maybe a Leon combo) may be better, but very high risk. Birch will already be scanning the market no doubt.


No doubt? I doubt the thought of changing the manager has seriously crossed his mind as yet. Until there is serious and sustained fan or player discontent it won’t neither. Beat Hudds and everyone that matters will be singing “fisting time is here again”.

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Cooper Out on 10:16 - Feb 15 with 2454 viewsSmellyplumz

I can't belive 41%want to keep him.. Mind boggling.

""Although I cannot promise or predict the future, I can guarantee one thing - the current board of directors will always fight, as we have done over the last 12 years, to work together as one with the Supporters Trust to make 100% sure that Swansea City football club remains the number one priority in all our thoughts and in every decision we make."
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Cooper Out on 10:20 - Feb 15 with 2445 viewssainthelens

Cooper Out on 10:16 - Feb 15 by Smellyplumz

I can't belive 41%want to keep him.. Mind boggling.


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Cooper Out on 10:25 - Feb 15 with 2420 viewsjacabertawe

Cooper Out on 10:16 - Feb 15 by Smellyplumz

I can't belive 41%want to keep him.. Mind boggling.


I was one who voted to keep Cooper. That was some time ago.
Unfortunately, there was no facility to give a caveat, e.g. "Until the end of the season" or "If he improves the team significantly". Sacking him at this point would be expensively futile.

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Cooper Out on 10:31 - Feb 15 with 2409 viewsJinxy

Cooper Out on 10:09 - Feb 15 by monmouth

No doubt? I doubt the thought of changing the manager has seriously crossed his mind as yet. Until there is serious and sustained fan or player discontent it won’t neither. Beat Hudds and everyone that matters will be singing “fisting time is here again”.


I disagree. I think it will be crossing his mind, if not already. Suffocating young and old players will not be good for business ultimately, and as far as they are concerned, it is all about the business. That apart, unless we see a change in tactics, performances etc of cosmic proportions (not impossible I suppose), then I don't think anyone in their right mind would unleashed SC on a summer "rebuild", after young loanees return to their clubs, after copious therapy sessions and so on!
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Cooper Out on 10:33 - Feb 15 with 2399 viewsSmellyplumz

Cooper Out on 10:25 - Feb 15 by jacabertawe

I was one who voted to keep Cooper. That was some time ago.
Unfortunately, there was no facility to give a caveat, e.g. "Until the end of the season" or "If he improves the team significantly". Sacking him at this point would be expensively futile.


What's the point of keeping him till the end of the season? Our season is done, start the rebuild now. They won't of course because we can't afford to so we will continue to suffer this fraud.

""Although I cannot promise or predict the future, I can guarantee one thing - the current board of directors will always fight, as we have done over the last 12 years, to work together as one with the Supporters Trust to make 100% sure that Swansea City football club remains the number one priority in all our thoughts and in every decision we make."
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Cooper Out on 10:37 - Feb 15 with 2392 viewsLuther27

Cooper Out on 10:33 - Feb 15 by Smellyplumz

What's the point of keeping him till the end of the season? Our season is done, start the rebuild now. They won't of course because we can't afford to so we will continue to suffer this fraud.


Probably to save a few pounds in redundancy
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Cooper Out on 10:40 - Feb 15 with 2383 viewsswan65split

Cooper Out on 23:57 - Feb 14 by dobjack2

We don’t have to suggest someone else. That is down to the people who appointed him.

He is a rookie manager so I accept he is going to make mistakes.Tactics seem confused, he appears unable to adapt to an opposition change of tactics (inexperience) and tonight apart is reticent to use subs.

I could accept all of that if players were getting better under his coaching performances were improving even if results weren’t there and he appeared to be learning.

However players are going backwards and performances are awful. If it wasn’t for our good start we would be in a relegation fight and deservedly so.

On the evidence so far he is cutting his teeth in coaching and managing at too high a level.


If he is left to continue into next season, with a bunch of newcomers, I fear this current form will be continued, last night was actually the first time I have witnessed him and Marsh in conversation on the line during a game!
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Cooper Out on 10:41 - Feb 15 with 2377 viewsswan65split

Cooper Out on 10:16 - Feb 15 by Smellyplumz

I can't belive 41%want to keep him.. Mind boggling.


Bow has a lot to answer for!
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Cooper Out on 10:47 - Feb 15 with 2351 viewsSwansea93

Ian Mitchelmore
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· 13 Feb
Looking solely at September to now, Swansea would be 19th. Cooper's men are the lowest scorers in this period. 12 of their 37 league goals came in August. They averaged exactly two goals per game in that month, but just shy of one per game since. #Swans

7 wins in the last 30 games, how luck is he to still have a job.
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Cooper Out on 10:50 - Feb 15 with 2337 viewsunion_jack

Cooper Out on 08:48 - Feb 15 by Jinxy

Hi, how are you doing?

Sorry, to answer your question - not really. It's like sitting down to a bad meal and being asked to choose a new one without seeing the menu! I'm sure there are many up and coming coaches, with some experience of club football, who could not do worse. As I've said before, Rangel (and maybe a Leon combo) may be better, but very high risk. Birch will already be scanning the market no doubt.


How practical it is I don’t know, but I really think Rangel would be a good choice. He’s been here, done it and got the t-shirt, he’d command respect and I think (but don’t know) he’s got the tactical nous to play ‘our way’.

I’d love him to have a go but he may be reluctant as I’ve said before.

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Cooper Out on 10:59 - Feb 15 with 2317 viewsJackfath

Cooper Out on 10:50 - Feb 15 by union_jack

How practical it is I don’t know, but I really think Rangel would be a good choice. He’s been here, done it and got the t-shirt, he’d command respect and I think (but don’t know) he’s got the tactical nous to play ‘our way’.

I’d love him to have a go but he may be reluctant as I’ve said before.


I wonder who would be Angel's number 2? Alan Tate?

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Cooper Out on 11:12 - Feb 15 with 2296 viewsSwansea93

Cooper Out on 10:59 - Feb 15 by Jackfath

I wonder who would be Angel's number 2? Alan Tate?


Hasn't our form gone downhill since Tate came up into the 1st team?

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Cooper Out on 11:14 - Feb 15 with 2288 viewsJinxy

Cooper Out on 10:59 - Feb 15 by Jackfath

I wonder who would be Angel's number 2? Alan Tate?


Leon? Move over Clough/Taylor eh.
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Cooper Out on 11:22 - Feb 15 with 2263 viewssainthelens

Bit of sense now yeah....whoever comes in needs to have had experience of at least managing a club. Minimum requirement.
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Cooper Out on 11:30 - Feb 15 with 2234 viewsSwansea93

Cooper Out on 11:22 - Feb 15 by sainthelens

Bit of sense now yeah....whoever comes in needs to have had experience of at least managing a club. Minimum requirement.


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Cooper Out on 12:14 - Feb 15 with 2182 viewsJinxy

Cooper Out on 11:22 - Feb 15 by sainthelens

Bit of sense now yeah....whoever comes in needs to have had experience of at least managing a club. Minimum requirement.


Yes you're probably right, especially after this particularly raw experience. There have been examples mind you, where ex players step straight into coaching roles with some success - no 2's too, but not for us re Clement. I just get the feeling Rangel has so many qualities that we need - I listed them on a previous post so won't churn that up again. It's the identity that we need, and Potter got that. Cooper doesn't, sadly, I don't think.

Genuine question SH - would you take Rangel right now over Cooper? I would!
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Cooper Out on 12:49 - Feb 15 with 2148 viewssainthelens

Cooper Out on 12:14 - Feb 15 by Jinxy

Yes you're probably right, especially after this particularly raw experience. There have been examples mind you, where ex players step straight into coaching roles with some success - no 2's too, but not for us re Clement. I just get the feeling Rangel has so many qualities that we need - I listed them on a previous post so won't churn that up again. It's the identity that we need, and Potter got that. Cooper doesn't, sadly, I don't think.

Genuine question SH - would you take Rangel right now over Cooper? I would!


Again , realistically that wont happen. But no I wouldn't. That doesn't mean I'm happy to have Cooper here any longer.
Leon has same outlook ( I'm guessing) as Rangel , and none of us would want Leon as full time boss. Curt,Tatey and Leon are legends here, they've all flirted with coaching etc and none have looked comfortable tbh.
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Cooper Out on 12:54 - Feb 15 with 2130 viewsunion_jack

Cooper Out on 12:49 - Feb 15 by sainthelens

Again , realistically that wont happen. But no I wouldn't. That doesn't mean I'm happy to have Cooper here any longer.
Leon has same outlook ( I'm guessing) as Rangel , and none of us would want Leon as full time boss. Curt,Tatey and Leon are legends here, they've all flirted with coaching etc and none have looked comfortable tbh.


I just think Rangel has a bit more about him. It’s no more than a hunch but there are some intangibles there that I believe will make him a good manager.

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Cooper Out on 13:01 - Feb 15 with 3764 viewsJinxy

Cooper Out on 12:54 - Feb 15 by union_jack

I just think Rangel has a bit more about him. It’s no more than a hunch but there are some intangibles there that I believe will make him a good manager.


Yep. If not next at the Swans, certainly one day in the future for him. Ticks many boxes to be a good manager one day imo.
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Cooper Out on 13:21 - Feb 15 with 3747 viewsAngelRangelQS

I think Rangel will make a good manager too personally.

He seems to have a lot about him as well as a bit of a nasty/ruthless streak.
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Cooper Out on 15:00 - Feb 15 with 3663 viewsmonmouth

Cooper Out on 13:21 - Feb 15 by AngelRangelQS

I think Rangel will make a good manager too personally.

He seems to have a lot about him as well as a bit of a nasty/ruthless streak.


Well he would say that wouldn't he?


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Cooper Out on 15:21 - Feb 15 with 3604 viewsA_Fans_Dad

Cooper Out on 10:50 - Feb 15 by union_jack

How practical it is I don’t know, but I really think Rangel would be a good choice. He’s been here, done it and got the t-shirt, he’d command respect and I think (but don’t know) he’s got the tactical nous to play ‘our way’.

I’d love him to have a go but he may be reluctant as I’ve said before.


What makes you think that Rangel has any Managerial Qualities whatsoever?
Just because he plays decent footbal it is not a given he would be any good at anything else.
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Cooper Out on 15:23 - Feb 15 with 3602 viewsJinxy

Cooper Out on 15:00 - Feb 15 by monmouth

Well he would say that wouldn't he?



As long as Cooperman doesn't plead the case for the defence we'll be fine!
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Cooper Out on 15:24 - Feb 15 with 3595 viewsgordondg

No different to Martinez when he got the job,worth a shout.
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