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Well, we're clearly going all in. It absolutely has to go well, because otherwise you're going to be handing over a team built entirely for a manager with a very particular style of play.
Feels rather like we're hurtling down a very steep hill atm, and we'll just have to wait and see what the landing is like.
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BFG part 2 may be off on 10:31 - Jul 25 with 2640 views
What happens if Luongo and leistner aren't moved on? Will we be left with 2 of our most experienced, and presumably better paid, players ostracised from the squad?
Mental
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BFG part 2 may be off on 10:31 - Jul 25 with 2637 views
BFG part 2 may be off on 10:05 - Jul 25 by Hunterhoop
What I don’t get is this narrative that’s not a ball player. He was far more competent in possession than Lynch, and is a far far better defender than anything we’ve got.
Put it this way, we’ve sold Matt Smith, and if we sell Leistner we’ll have absolutely no one at the club able to deal with Matt Smith when we play relegation rivals, Millwall.
That seems unbelievable stupid.
I think it’s less to do with lack of ball playing ability in Leistner’s case. More about lack of pace and mobility. We really have been hamstrung by this in recent seasons and addressing it may go someway towards improving our ability to win games when not playing well.
To be honest I never got the impression he was that happy here.
BFG part 2 may be off on 10:23 - Jul 25 by Northernr
Well, we're clearly going all in. It absolutely has to go well, because otherwise you're going to be handing over a team built entirely for a manager with a very particular style of play.
Feels rather like we're hurtling down a very steep hill atm, and we'll just have to wait and see what the landing is like.
Thing is that if we do, as I strongly suspect is likely to happen, crash and burn at the bottom of that hill at the start of the season, the impact on Warburton will be negligible. I’m sure, with his previous history, that he’s probably financially set up for the rest of his life, whatever happens to little old QPR. But if his dogmatic, plan A at all costs approach does hit the rocks it’s the fans who are going to be left clinging to the wreckage.
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BFG part 2 may be off on 10:33 - Jul 25 with 2622 views
Warburton is clearly taking some risks but at this level we've put up with far too many players who simply can't pass and move. Championship footballers should be capable of this.
There is a risk of no Plan B. Maybe the only way to avoid reverting back to Plan B is not to have one in the first place. Again, for four seasons we've adapted the way we play to the players we've got rather than adapt the players to the game we want to play.
16th, 18th, 19th. Hardly a success was it.
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BFG part 2 may be off on 10:33 - Jul 25 with 2618 views
I think it’s less to do with lack of ball playing ability in Leistner’s case. More about lack of pace and mobility. We really have been hamstrung by this in recent seasons and addressing it may go someway towards improving our ability to win games when not playing well.
To be honest I never got the impression he was that happy here.
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Play him alongside someone with pace. He reads the game well. Had Deeney in his pocket and he and Furlong kept a clean sheet at Forest. They deserved a statue for that!
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BFG part 2 may be off on 10:36 - Jul 25 with 2595 views
BFG part 2 may be off on 10:37 - Jul 25 by flynnbo
Rumours of Worrall from Forest.
Was he at Rangers last season on loan ?
And Bowles is onside, Swinburne has come rushing out of his goal , what can Bowles do here , onto the left foot no, on to the right foot
That’s there that’s two, and that’s Bowles
Brian Moore
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BFG part 2 may be off on 10:42 - Jul 25 with 2550 views
He didn't play at the end of last season and he's not likely to play much this season.
With that in mind, it makes sense to take money for a 29-year old. Like others, I'm not at all bothered that we're breaking up our defence. It's been woeful.
Wonder what he's worth...
"The opposite of love, after all, is not hate, but indifference."
Warburton is clearly taking some risks but at this level we've put up with far too many players who simply can't pass and move. Championship footballers should be capable of this.
There is a risk of no Plan B. Maybe the only way to avoid reverting back to Plan B is not to have one in the first place. Again, for four seasons we've adapted the way we play to the players we've got rather than adapt the players to the game we want to play.
16th, 18th, 19th. Hardly a success was it.
I agree that the only way to make sure we change our style of play is to persevere, come what may, work through the inevitable pain, and hope we can do it quickly enough to avoid getting relegated. We're putting ourselves in a position where we have absolutely no other choice. I'm just not sure that doing it with an almost entire new team is a better way to go than using some of the players we already had. Just seems to add risk to an already risky strategy.
For so many times it's been Too Little Too Late for the Rangers. Now it seems to be Too Much Too Soon. I'll be amazed if this raggle taggle team can stay up. To use yet another cliche we'll be Hell Bent For Leather on the way to League 1.
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BFG part 2 may be off on 11:13 - Jul 25 with 2366 views
With our current squad it wouldn't be unfair to think we are heading towards a relegation fight, however as mentioned there will be alot of the unknown with these players and the team so we may be surprised. That said who we get in as the second striker may make or break us
BFG part 2 may be off on 10:05 - Jul 25 by Hunterhoop
What I don’t get is this narrative that’s not a ball player. He was far more competent in possession than Lynch, and is a far far better defender than anything we’ve got.
Put it this way, we’ve sold Matt Smith, and if we sell Leistner we’ll have absolutely no one at the club able to deal with Matt Smith when we play relegation rivals, Millwall.
That seems unbelievable stupid.
reminds me of Arry in the prem signing Rio to play 3-5-2 and selling Simpson to Leceister (possibly our most stupid sale ever) and then having to revert to 4-4-2 after a game and a half, complaining we don't have a right back
See this looking like a pretty spineless defence; especially in CB. Apart from his lack of pace, I liked pretty much every aspect of BFG2; could be a huge loss if true. Especially as I hoped Furlong would move to CB as he has ability in the air and looked pretty uncompromising; but he's gone already
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BFG part 2 may be off on 11:27 - Jul 25 with 2293 views
BFG part 2 may be off on 11:13 - Jul 25 by westberksr
reminds me of Arry in the prem signing Rio to play 3-5-2 and selling Simpson to Leceister (possibly our most stupid sale ever) and then having to revert to 4-4-2 after a game and a half, complaining we don't have a right back
See this looking like a pretty spineless defence; especially in CB. Apart from his lack of pace, I liked pretty much every aspect of BFG2; could be a huge loss if true. Especially as I hoped Furlong would move to CB as he has ability in the air and looked pretty uncompromising; but he's gone already
I liked Leistner personally ok so he had a few iffy games and to be fair I’ve seen milk turn quicker but what he did have was decent positional sense, was very decent in the air and had a fair bit of grit and determination and loved a tackle. When we signed Barbet some of the comments I read about him was that he is good as long as he has a bit of a brute alongside him which Leistner is.
If Leistner is home sick or wants to go then fair enough. If it’s purely a financial decision the club need to make for the greater good then fine. If he’s being unceremoniously dumped as Warburton doesn’t rate him then I find that puzzling as he is more than ok at this level
Warburton is making some ballsy decisions I hope for his sake they come off
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BFG part 2 may be off on 11:32 - Jul 25 with 2251 views
I sometimes have a dream in which the QPR team is made up of players I've never seen or even heard of. Strangely, the team seems to do quite well.
Part of my dream has now come true. I hope the other part of the dream does too, but I have no idea how it will end.
My guess is that it may go actually ok and that we will see some better football. However, I would be keeping BFG2 if I was in charge and was allowed to. He may be slow but he was superb for us at times last season.
Suffering since 1978.
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BFG part 2 may be off on 11:36 - Jul 25 with 2219 views
Does anyone at all at this point still believe that the activity of this club during this window corresponds to whatever was said in Warburton's job interview.
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BFG part 2 may be off on 11:39 - Jul 25 with 2202 views
BFG part 2 may be off on 11:36 - Jul 25 by rsonist
Does anyone at all at this point still believe that the activity of this club during this window corresponds to whatever was said in Warburton's job interview.
Well we are signing players who fit into how he wants to play so possibly yes
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BFG part 2 may be off on 11:45 - Jul 25 with 2174 views
I totally get that there are 2 potential sides to a transfer, and this one may not have been instigated by the club although the rumours suggest it was.
but of all the transfers out so far this summer, this is the most odd to me. Even odder than Matt Smith, which I also found odd.
BFG part 2 may be off on 10:23 - Jul 25 by Northernr
Well, we're clearly going all in. It absolutely has to go well, because otherwise you're going to be handing over a team built entirely for a manager with a very particular style of play.
Feels rather like we're hurtling down a very steep hill atm, and we'll just have to wait and see what the landing is like.
Did I ever mention that I was in Minder?
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BFG part 2 may be off on 12:04 - Jul 25 with 2080 views
BFG part 2 may be off on 11:13 - Jul 25 by RblockPrior
With our current squad it wouldn't be unfair to think we are heading towards a relegation fight, however as mentioned there will be alot of the unknown with these players and the team so we may be surprised. That said who we get in as the second striker may make or break us
The point is that if this lot do not get off to a good start, the church is already restless and it will become toxic quicker than it has ever gone before. When that happens, any turn round will be very, very unlikely.
Keep optimistic if you can as I am sure that it will make you feel better than I feel, but I see little other than hurt starting in just over a weeks' time...
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