| DLT 14:19 - Feb 13 with 3522 views | TheBlob |
Not guilty on all counts.
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| DLT on 14:30 - Feb 13 with 2478 views | daveB |
goes to show you should wait for a case to be heard before deciding if they are guilty or not. Hopefully Rolf Harris will walk free as well |  | | |
| DLT on 14:32 - Feb 13 with 2466 views | Northernr |
I think there's a slight difference between the systematic rape and abuse of hundreds of children over many decades and grabbing a few arses at work parties (yes, simplified and generalised for effect). Problem is you'd never believe that from the coverage these cases are getting. |  | | |
| DLT on 14:34 - Feb 13 with 2460 views | Metallica_Hoop |
My 'Rock 'N' Roll Years' enjoyment memories remain intact. Huzza. |  |
| Beer and Beef has made us what we are - The Prince Regent |
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| DLT on 14:35 - Feb 13 with 2437 views | Kendo_Nagasaki |
OJ Simpson got off. |  |
| Psycho killer Qu'est-ce que c'est? |
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| DLT on 14:38 - Feb 13 with 2435 views | wood_hoop |
Well judging by the latest result he might just well have done.
Got to wonder why the CPS brought these cases to trial in the first place, the evidence must have been pretty flimsy to have so many counts dismissed, because found not guilty dosn't mean completely innocent, just not strong enough evidence to convict, the CPS are supposed to be experts in the testamany to be given against the accused and if Harris and the others up on similar charges are found not guilty then it may well pose big problems for anyone wanting to make allegations on similar grounds against men whether celebs or not. |  | | |
| DLT on 14:39 - Feb 13 with 2416 views | HollowayRanger |
not a pedo just a bully and dirty old man who couldnt keep his hands to himself
as for rolf harris the some of the charges are against children and include rape ,far more damaging and pure evil IF true
hope its not true as always seem a nice sort |  |
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| DLT on 14:47 - Feb 13 with 2388 views | TheBlob |
Well I suppose in his defence he wasn't guilty of molesting lesbians. | |
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| DLT on 14:48 - Feb 13 with 2381 views | Aunt_Nelly |
Rapist + Good lawyer = "Not guilty". |  | | |
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| DLT on 14:49 - Feb 13 with 2381 views | DWQPR |
The biggest issue with these cases and which could also hinder those who are genuinely victims are the claims of those who just want to jump on the wagon in the hope of getting a slice of the financial action which would then tend to follow guilty verdicts. With Saville the guilty verdict has been pronounced without a trial or with the defendant able to defend himself. He has been made guilty purely on the weight if accusations and no doubt without the old bill investigating most of the actions, and who instead are happy to rack 'em and stack 'em. Many more have come forward since it was announced that Saville's inheritors of his estate have decided to release the monies for payments towards civil claims. |  |
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| DLT on 14:49 - Feb 13 with 2379 views | TheBlob |
| DLT on 14:48 - Feb 13 by Aunt_Nelly |
Rapist + Good lawyer = "Not guilty". |
Careful. | |
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| DLT on 14:59 - Feb 13 with 2334 views | HollowayRanger |
very hard to prove his word against theirs
and no supporting witnesses or phyiscal evidence after all these years
same with all those soap starts of yester year
even with the footballers its hard to prove
no winners in these trials apart from the lawyers and press | |
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| DLT on 15:02 - Feb 13 with 2333 views | Brightonhoop |
2 counts were 'inconclusive' and decisions on a Retrial will be heard on 24th February so he is not cleared off all charges yet... |  | | |
| DLT on 17:18 - Feb 13 with 2192 views | six_foot_two |
| DLT on 14:30 - Feb 13 by daveB |
goes to show you should wait for a case to be heard before deciding if they are guilty or not. Hopefully Rolf Harris will walk free as well |
Rolf Harris case is a bit different as it is alleged that indecent images(kiddie porn) have been found on his computer. |  | | |
| DLT on 17:25 - Feb 13 with 2167 views | Gloucs_R |
3-0 if you include Kevin Webster |  |
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| DLT on 17:26 - Feb 13 with 2163 views | daveB |
| DLT on 14:48 - Feb 13 by Aunt_Nelly |
Rapist + Good lawyer = "Not guilty". |
He wasn't up for rape, it was indecent assault | | | |
| DLT on 17:35 - Feb 13 with 2144 views | Aunt_Nelly |
| DLT on 17:26 - Feb 13 by daveB |
He wasn't up for rape, it was indecent assault |
Same formula applies.
You would have to bloody naive to believe otherwise.
BTW Dave, Why are you hoping "Rolf Harris will walk free as well". Do you know for a fact he's innocent or do you believe it's OK to abuse 7 year old girls? [Post edited 13 Feb 2014 17:36]
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| DLT on 17:39 - Feb 13 with 2132 views | Juzzie |
Not Guilty could also mean not proven.
As in Scotland, I think it's time this 3rd option was brought in down here.
Guilty = well, self explanatory
Not Guity = they absolutely didn't do it
Not Proven = It couldn't be proved they did do it but there is still reason to believe it did happen (the John Terry case being a good example) |  | | |
| DLT on 17:41 - Feb 13 with 2128 views | daveB |
| DLT on 17:18 - Feb 13 by six_foot_two |
Rolf Harris case is a bit different as it is alleged that indecent images(kiddie porn) have been found on his computer. |
indecent images may not be kiddie porn, a picture of your own kid in the bath could be seen as indecent | | | |
| DLT on 17:44 - Feb 13 with 2106 views | HollowayRanger |
stuart hall was found guilty
so it does work sometimes | |
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| DLT on 17:45 - Feb 13 with 2107 views | daveB |
| DLT on 17:35 - Feb 13 by Aunt_Nelly |
Same formula applies.
You would have to bloody naive to believe otherwise.
BTW Dave, Why are you hoping "Rolf Harris will walk free as well". Do you know for a fact he's innocent or do you believe it's OK to abuse 7 year old girls? [Post edited 13 Feb 2014 17:36]
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not really, indecent assault could be grabbing a tit or an arse rather than rape. Very different ends of the scale
I hope Rolf walks free as I've always liked him and don't believe he did it, also no i don't think it's ok to abuse 7 year old girls, what a ridiculous thing to say | | | |
| DLT on 18:08 - Feb 13 with 2072 views | DylanP |
| DLT on 17:35 - Feb 13 by Aunt_Nelly |
Same formula applies.
You would have to bloody naive to believe otherwise.
BTW Dave, Why are you hoping "Rolf Harris will walk free as well". Do you know for a fact he's innocent or do you believe it's OK to abuse 7 year old girls? [Post edited 13 Feb 2014 17:36]
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What a ridiculously hostile thing to say. I think we can all assume he doesn't condone rape of 7 year olds. I can't think of any reason why you would say such a thing except to stir things up. How old are you???? I know Dave is plenty capable of standing up for himself, so I am more commenting from the perspective of board behaviour. A safe assumption is that his "I hope Harris walks free" was motivated by admiration for Harris and faith that if he walks it means he didn't do it--rather than launching the obnoxious implication that he supports child rape!! Grow up! |  |
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| DLT on 18:17 - Feb 13 with 2043 views | Aunt_Nelly |
| DLT on 17:45 - Feb 13 by daveB |
not really, indecent assault could be grabbing a tit or an arse rather than rape. Very different ends of the scale
I hope Rolf walks free as I've always liked him and don't believe he did it, also no i don't think it's ok to abuse 7 year old girls, what a ridiculous thing to say |
Same formula as in:
[insert charge] + good lawyer = "Not guilty".
No Dave it's ridiculous to say you hope somebody who is charged with 12 cases of indecent assault on girls under 15, including a 7 year old, walks free just because you've "always liked him".
Either you're 100% sure Rolf Harris is innocent of the charges or you're OK with nonces abusing little girls...Which is it? [Post edited 13 Feb 2014 18:19]
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| DLT on 18:24 - Feb 13 with 2030 views | QPRDave |
| DLT on 17:35 - Feb 13 by Aunt_Nelly |
Same formula applies.
You would have to bloody naive to believe otherwise.
BTW Dave, Why are you hoping "Rolf Harris will walk free as well". Do you know for a fact he's innocent or do you believe it's OK to abuse 7 year old girls? [Post edited 13 Feb 2014 17:36]
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What d*ckhead.....you obviously don't believe in the justice system .... [Post edited 13 Feb 2014 18:37]
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| DLT on 18:25 - Feb 13 with 2026 views | Northernr |
Careful lads.... | | | |
| DLT on 18:28 - Feb 13 with 1165 views | Brightonhoop |
| DLT on 18:17 - Feb 13 by Aunt_Nelly |
Same formula as in:
[insert charge] + good lawyer = "Not guilty".
No Dave it's ridiculous to say you hope somebody who is charged with 12 cases of indecent assault on girls under 15, including a 7 year old, walks free just because you've "always liked him".
Either you're 100% sure Rolf Harris is innocent of the charges or you're OK with nonces abusing little girls...Which is it? [Post edited 13 Feb 2014 18:19]
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'kin give it up Nelly, it's what he is in Court for, for a Judicial process to either condemn or clear him. You're also at risk of jeopordising the case so best shut up. And suggesting DaveB or anyone else is a kiddie fiddler because they dont follow your logic is not just stoopid but is also inviting a heavy smack in the chops so be careful. | | | |
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