| London tower block on fire on 15:07 - Jun 16 with 2102 views | Darran |
| London tower block on fire on 15:03 - Jun 16 by Meraki |
Thats a bit hypocritical, you just made a joke on a thread about 2 soldiers who have died in an incident at Castlemartin. |
No I didn't when I made that post I had no idea what the thread was about,there's no link there and no mention of anyone dying. |  |
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| London tower block on fire on 15:10 - Jun 16 with 2094 views | blueytheblue |
| London tower block on fire on 14:58 - Jun 16 by Jack_Meoff |
What's he/they said/done Kez? Genuine question. |
The whole "let's take the empty houses owned by the rich" garbage.
Corbyn's filmed visit where one person conveniently is filmed saying "we need more like you".
The likes of Owen Jones et al rushing to judgment that it was all the Tories fault, making oblique reference to "anger on the streets".
EDIT: Labour media outlets like Squawkbox and especially Novara Media ( who Jones praised for "winning" them the election ) pushing the bare face lie that the Government has issued a D notice gagging media from reporting the number of deaths. [Post edited 16 Jun 2017 15:12]
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| London tower block on fire on 15:15 - Jun 16 with 2075 views | dailew |
| London tower block on fire on 15:10 - Jun 16 by blueytheblue |
The whole "let's take the empty houses owned by the rich" garbage.
Corbyn's filmed visit where one person conveniently is filmed saying "we need more like you".
The likes of Owen Jones et al rushing to judgment that it was all the Tories fault, making oblique reference to "anger on the streets".
EDIT: Labour media outlets like Squawkbox and especially Novara Media ( who Jones praised for "winning" them the election ) pushing the bare face lie that the Government has issued a D notice gagging media from reporting the number of deaths. [Post edited 16 Jun 2017 15:12]
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He's right though.
Over 20,000 empty properties in London, probably around 1500 in that borough.
Just grab the 120 that have been empty for the longest. Obviously not needed by their owners. [Post edited 16 Jun 2017 15:17]
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| London tower block on fire on 15:18 - Jun 16 with 2067 views | Fireboy2 |
| London tower block on fire on 15:10 - Jun 16 by blueytheblue |
The whole "let's take the empty houses owned by the rich" garbage.
Corbyn's filmed visit where one person conveniently is filmed saying "we need more like you".
The likes of Owen Jones et al rushing to judgment that it was all the Tories fault, making oblique reference to "anger on the streets".
EDIT: Labour media outlets like Squawkbox and especially Novara Media ( who Jones praised for "winning" them the election ) pushing the bare face lie that the Government has issued a D notice gagging media from reporting the number of deaths. [Post edited 16 Jun 2017 15:12]
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Didn't take long for you to jump on the political bandwagon eh
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| London tower block on fire on 15:22 - Jun 16 with 2062 views | blueytheblue |
| London tower block on fire on 15:15 - Jun 16 by dailew |
He's right though.
Over 20,000 empty properties in London, probably around 1500 in that borough.
Just grab the 120 that have been empty for the longest. Obviously not needed by their owners. [Post edited 16 Jun 2017 15:17]
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"Probably"?
Or "actually"?
Research has discreditted the claim; regardless, Lammy et al wanting to claim those properties is actually illegal. Ironically considering Brexit, it breaks article 1of EHCR. It's a populist call, unable to be implemented. Go figure. | |
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| London tower block on fire on 15:23 - Jun 16 with 2055 views | blueytheblue |
| London tower block on fire on 15:18 - Jun 16 by Fireboy2 |
Didn't take long for you to jump on the political bandwagon eh
FFS |
Someone asked for examples of where Labout had politicised it, so, errm, GFY.
It needs a full inquiry, no party will come out with any credit. | |
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| London tower block on fire on 15:23 - Jun 16 with 2052 views | Dr_Winston |
| London tower block on fire on 15:22 - Jun 16 by blueytheblue |
"Probably"?
Or "actually"?
Research has discreditted the claim; regardless, Lammy et al wanting to claim those properties is actually illegal. Ironically considering Brexit, it breaks article 1of EHCR. It's a populist call, unable to be implemented. Go figure. |
David Lammy really should shut the f*ck up about spare properties considering he claimed expenses for a second home despite only living 28 minutes by tube away from Parliament. |  |
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| London tower block on fire on 15:48 - Jun 16 with 1996 views | waynekerr55 |
| London tower block on fire on 15:23 - Jun 16 by Dr_Winston |
David Lammy really should shut the f*ck up about spare properties considering he claimed expenses for a second home despite only living 28 minutes by tube away from Parliament. |
Honestly they're fûcking pathetic. |  |
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| London tower block on fire on 15:49 - Jun 16 with 1996 views | Fireboy2 |
| London tower block on fire on 15:23 - Jun 16 by blueytheblue |
Someone asked for examples of where Labout had politicised it, so, errm, GFY.
It needs a full inquiry, no party will come out with any credit. |
You haven't mentioned much about this terrible tradegy and I didnt really want to bring this up but I have say that your precious tory cuts might have affected this
That bumbling fvckwit johnson shut 20 fire stations in london alone in his tenure as the mayor
The fire service don't just put fires out they work to prevent them and one way they do it is by the technical fire safety team,which inspects all sorts of building and flats being one f them,now I suspect they would have been cut as well as they are seen as not as important as the reactionary part of the service ie firefighters | | | |
| London tower block on fire on 15:52 - Jun 16 with 1985 views | blueytheblue |
| London tower block on fire on 15:49 - Jun 16 by Fireboy2 |
You haven't mentioned much about this terrible tradegy and I didnt really want to bring this up but I have say that your precious tory cuts might have affected this
That bumbling fvckwit johnson shut 20 fire stations in london alone in his tenure as the mayor
The fire service don't just put fires out they work to prevent them and one way they do it is by the technical fire safety team,which inspects all sorts of building and flats being one f them,now I suspect they would have been cut as well as they are seen as not as important as the reactionary part of the service ie firefighters |
Again, that's all supposition before an inquiry. We simply don't know at this point - hence making political points ( "tory cuts" ) is plain politicising the tragedy. | |
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| London tower block on fire on 16:01 - Jun 16 with 1973 views | jackportis |
| London tower block on fire on 14:52 - Jun 16 by Humpty |
Is there any need for that?
On a thread about such a dreadful subject? |
Yes as the head of State she felt that she would offer her support. Great that William was there. Nice to give recognition to the helpers. Not sure why you would not think it's a problem. |  |
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| London tower block on fire on 16:15 - Jun 16 with 1951 views | exiledclaseboy |
| London tower block on fire on 15:23 - Jun 16 by Dr_Winston |
David Lammy really should shut the f*ck up about spare properties considering he claimed expenses for a second home despite only living 28 minutes by tube away from Parliament. |
Lammy's an idiot and always has been to be fair. |  |
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| London tower block on fire on 16:18 - Jun 16 with 1947 views | exiledclaseboy |
| London tower block on fire on 15:22 - Jun 16 by blueytheblue |
"Probably"?
Or "actually"?
Research has discreditted the claim; regardless, Lammy et al wanting to claim those properties is actually illegal. Ironically considering Brexit, it breaks article 1of EHCR. It's a populist call, unable to be implemented. Go figure. |
Article 1? Tell me more? | |
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| London tower block on fire on 16:23 - Jun 16 with 1937 views | exiledclaseboy |
Seems to be some angry people outside Kensington Town Hall right now. | |
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| London tower block on fire on 16:24 - Jun 16 with 1933 views | blueytheblue |
| London tower block on fire on 16:18 - Jun 16 by exiledclaseboy |
Article 1? Tell me more? |
Possessions and all that. It's an incredibly and unsurprisingly dull, lengthy piece of text. Reads as if written by a civil servant. States can't just go grabbing houses willy-nilly. | |
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| London tower block on fire on 16:31 - Jun 16 with 1920 views | exiledclaseboy |
| London tower block on fire on 16:24 - Jun 16 by blueytheblue |
Possessions and all that. It's an incredibly and unsurprisingly dull, lengthy piece of text. Reads as if written by a civil servant. States can't just go grabbing houses willy-nilly. |
You mean Protocol 1, Article 1. The actual article 1 is very short and nothing to do with property.
It's not that lengthy either, it's only two paragraphs. It's also extremely arguable whether such requisitioning of property would breach it. Here's the text, note the caveats about the public interest and governments being able to enforce such laws as it deems necessary etc. Helps if you read these things before parroting what someone else tells you or writes.
(1) Every natural or legal person is entitled to the peaceful enjoyment of his possessions. No one shall be deprived of his possessions except in the public interest and subject to the conditions provided for by law and by the general principles of international law.
(2) The preceding provisions shall not, however, in any way impair the right of a state to enforce such laws as it deems necessary to control the use of property in accordance with the general interest or to secure the payment of taxes or other contributions or penalties. | |
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| London tower block on fire on 16:42 - Jun 16 with 1901 views | blueytheblue |
| London tower block on fire on 16:31 - Jun 16 by exiledclaseboy |
You mean Protocol 1, Article 1. The actual article 1 is very short and nothing to do with property.
It's not that lengthy either, it's only two paragraphs. It's also extremely arguable whether such requisitioning of property would breach it. Here's the text, note the caveats about the public interest and governments being able to enforce such laws as it deems necessary etc. Helps if you read these things before parroting what someone else tells you or writes.
(1) Every natural or legal person is entitled to the peaceful enjoyment of his possessions. No one shall be deprived of his possessions except in the public interest and subject to the conditions provided for by law and by the general principles of international law.
(2) The preceding provisions shall not, however, in any way impair the right of a state to enforce such laws as it deems necessary to control the use of property in accordance with the general interest or to secure the payment of taxes or other contributions or penalties. |
http://www.echr.coe.int/LibraryDocs/DG2/HRFILES/DG2-EN-HRFILES-11(1998).pdf
That does seem to be a lengthy read. I guess my search online was mere parroting mind... as always, simple issues become complex interpretations.
Seizing people's property is a slippery slope imo. The rhetoric of Lammy is dangerous, prejudging any inquiry determinations, hyping up the "it's the evil rich innit" mantra. | |
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| London tower block on fire on 16:46 - Jun 16 with 1892 views | felixstowe_jack |
| London tower block on fire on 15:10 - Jun 16 by blueytheblue |
The whole "let's take the empty houses owned by the rich" garbage.
Corbyn's filmed visit where one person conveniently is filmed saying "we need more like you".
The likes of Owen Jones et al rushing to judgment that it was all the Tories fault, making oblique reference to "anger on the streets".
EDIT: Labour media outlets like Squawkbox and especially Novara Media ( who Jones praised for "winning" them the election ) pushing the bare face lie that the Government has issued a D notice gagging media from reporting the number of deaths. [Post edited 16 Jun 2017 15:12]
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12.5% of Labour PMs are landlords no wonder Blair and Brown did not introduce any housing regulations. Perhaps instead of confiscating the houses of the rich Corbyn could confiscate his MPs houses and give them to the homeless. | |
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| London tower block on fire on 16:47 - Jun 16 with 1892 views | exiledclaseboy |
| London tower block on fire on 16:42 - Jun 16 by blueytheblue |
http://www.echr.coe.int/LibraryDocs/DG2/HRFILES/DG2-EN-HRFILES-11(1998).pdf
That does seem to be a lengthy read. I guess my search online was mere parroting mind... as always, simple issues become complex interpretations.
Seizing people's property is a slippery slope imo. The rhetoric of Lammy is dangerous, prejudging any inquiry determinations, hyping up the "it's the evil rich innit" mantra. |
That is a lengthy read but it's not the article you refereed to and I doubt you've read it either. If such a move were to be made (and let's be honest, it won't) and a challenge to that move resulted it would be foe the courts to interpret the legality. It's clearly not cut and dried. | |
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| London tower block on fire on 16:50 - Jun 16 with 1879 views | blueytheblue |
| London tower block on fire on 16:47 - Jun 16 by exiledclaseboy |
That is a lengthy read but it's not the article you refereed to and I doubt you've read it either. If such a move were to be made (and let's be honest, it won't) and a challenge to that move resulted it would be foe the courts to interpret the legality. It's clearly not cut and dried. |
Read as much there as I could before falling asleep.
Of course there won't be any such move made, Lammy knows that it's playing cheap politics, pandering to the mob.
Owen Jones et al must be masturbating furiously at the moment seeing the scenes at Kensington Town Hall.
Stir up the mob, wait for the riots and try to profit politically from it. | |
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| London tower block on fire on 16:56 - Jun 16 with 1867 views | exiledclaseboy |
| London tower block on fire on 16:50 - Jun 16 by blueytheblue |
Read as much there as I could before falling asleep.
Of course there won't be any such move made, Lammy knows that it's playing cheap politics, pandering to the mob.
Owen Jones et al must be masturbating furiously at the moment seeing the scenes at Kensington Town Hall.
Stir up the mob, wait for the riots and try to profit politically from it. |
"The mob"?
Your sense of humanity and empathy knows no beginning. | |
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| London tower block on fire on 16:57 - Jun 16 with 1861 views | Darran |
Who's Lammy? | |
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| London tower block on fire on 16:59 - Jun 16 with 1855 views | Dr_Winston |
| London tower block on fire on 16:57 - Jun 16 by Darran |
Who's Lammy? |
MP for Tottenham. He's like a less intelligent Diane Abbott. | |
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