| Dunne off? on 23:07 - Jan 26 with 3569 views | Benny_the_Ball |
| Dunne off? on 20:52 - Jan 26 by KensalT |
You insist that Barbet wanted to go home to France in November 2021.
But you can't find one piece of evidence to support this.
You insist Barbet had offers from English clubs in 2022.
Again you cannot produce one piece of evidence.
If you want to wallow in ignorance then I guess that's your right.
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Ah, carry on camper! Nice to hear from you again. Not your final, final word on the subject then?
"You insist that Barbet wanted to go home to France in November 2021."
I said no such thing. Those are your words and your dates. I said that the fact that he returned to France supports the rumour. Common sense dictates that returning to France would've been one option he and his family will have contemplated but that doesn't necessarily mean that it was the only option or that a final decision had been made. Given his contract situation, his young family, and the fact that he is French, it's only natural that he would consider the idea. Others on this thread seem to understand the logic, only you appear to be struggling with it. As for evidence, he actually made the move. What more evidence do you require?
"You insist Barbet had offers from English clubs in 2022."
https://footballleagueworld.co.uk/ex-qpr-defender-closing-in-on-transfer-move-ha
https://the72.co.uk/2022/04/29/qpr-defender-yoann-barbet-attracting-interest-fro
https://www.westlondonsport.com/sport/austin-among-players-potentially-leaving-q
https://footballleagueworld.co.uk/how-is-yoann-barbet-getting-on-since-leaving-q
He had offers from other EFL clubs as explained and evidenced above. Are you seriously suggesting that an experienced and reliable left-footed centre-back in his prime who is available on a free had no other offers whatsoever? That's utterly illogical and preposterous.
And before asking folk for evidence how about producing some of your own to support your wild conspiracy theories? After all, this whole conversation started because you insist that QPR just allowed Barbet to walk, despite clear evidence to the contrary. Come on, camper. Let's be 'aving ya. [Post edited 26 Jan 23:22]
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| Dunne off? on 23:41 - Jan 26 with 3467 views | KensalT |
| Dunne off? on 23:07 - Jan 26 by Benny_the_Ball |
Ah, carry on camper! Nice to hear from you again. Not your final, final word on the subject then?
"You insist that Barbet wanted to go home to France in November 2021."
I said no such thing. Those are your words and your dates. I said that the fact that he returned to France supports the rumour. Common sense dictates that returning to France would've been one option he and his family will have contemplated but that doesn't necessarily mean that it was the only option or that a final decision had been made. Given his contract situation, his young family, and the fact that he is French, it's only natural that he would consider the idea. Others on this thread seem to understand the logic, only you appear to be struggling with it. As for evidence, he actually made the move. What more evidence do you require?
"You insist Barbet had offers from English clubs in 2022."
https://footballleagueworld.co.uk/ex-qpr-defender-closing-in-on-transfer-move-ha
https://the72.co.uk/2022/04/29/qpr-defender-yoann-barbet-attracting-interest-fro
https://www.westlondonsport.com/sport/austin-among-players-potentially-leaving-q
https://footballleagueworld.co.uk/how-is-yoann-barbet-getting-on-since-leaving-q
He had offers from other EFL clubs as explained and evidenced above. Are you seriously suggesting that an experienced and reliable left-footed centre-back in his prime who is available on a free had no other offers whatsoever? That's utterly illogical and preposterous.
And before asking folk for evidence how about producing some of your own to support your wild conspiracy theories? After all, this whole conversation started because you insist that QPR just allowed Barbet to walk, despite clear evidence to the contrary. Come on, camper. Let's be 'aving ya. [Post edited 26 Jan 23:22]
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Football League World and The 72 are well known clickbait sites.
Is that the best you can do?
The WLS link is from April '22 and basically says he wants to stay but might have to leave. Razor sharp investigative journalism.
WLS doesn't name names but says that Championship clubs have been "alerted to Barbet's availability". Well there's a very big difference between that and him getting offers.
However, the WLS piece does tally with HammersmothR's post on page six where he says:
"It got to about Easter time and he was like I can’t keep waiting so he then made the decision to move back to France. He absolutely loved his time with us and desperately wanted to say.
So Barbet didn't start talking about a return to France until Easter. In which case there is no direct link between the November rumour and Barbet going to France.
Now I could be wrong, but I'm pretty sure Easter doesn't fall in November.
Perhaps you could find an online calendar that proves me wrong.
After that you can find yourself a good dictionary and look up the words:
- Availability
- Offer
- Direct
- Link
- Ignore
- List
Happy camping. |  | | |
| Dunne off? on 23:58 - Jan 26 with 3327 views | stainrods_elbow |
| Dunne off? on 21:06 - Jan 26 by GaryHaddock |
That’s a shame if true.
Started off a bit of a liability, then became a 50 game a season rock didn’t he?
Highlights the precarios nature of their lives, Dunne included. |
As a freelance editor who lurches from feast to famine on a weekly basis (and recently disqualified from Income Support depsite the fact that I have no income right now by Ireland's Social Welfare Dept. - despite paying taxes and insurances to Revenue for many years), I'd love a bit of the 'precarious' lives of modern footballers.
Would you not think Barbet would have a bit in the bank to tide himself over while deciding where he's going to play? [Post edited 27 Jan 0:00]
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| Dunne off? on 06:25 - Jan 27 with 3177 views | GaryHaddock |
| Dunne off? on 23:58 - Jan 26 by stainrods_elbow |
As a freelance editor who lurches from feast to famine on a weekly basis (and recently disqualified from Income Support depsite the fact that I have no income right now by Ireland's Social Welfare Dept. - despite paying taxes and insurances to Revenue for many years), I'd love a bit of the 'precarious' lives of modern footballers.
Would you not think Barbet would have a bit in the bank to tide himself over while deciding where he's going to play? [Post edited 27 Jan 0:00]
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I think it’s possible to have sympathy for different people at the same time for different reasons.
Pro tip (from experience): If you have a lot to say on LfW don’t give out personal information. |  | | |
| Dunne off? on 10:07 - Jan 27 with 2836 views | robith |
| Dunne off? on 20:53 - Jan 26 by HammersmithR |
Barbet was actually my neighbour before he left and I got to know him a fair bit. It was my understanding from him that the club simply never offered him a deal until very late on. By that stage he had a young son (same age as mine) and he had to start planning for the future. It got to about Easter time and he was like I can’t keep waiting so he then made the decision to move back to France. He absolutely loved his time with us and desperately wanted to say. He was a really nice guy and was always happy chatting to me about QPR…quite often when we were in the playground with our kids! |
IIRC wasn't the main chat that the club was hedging their bets on whether we'd get promoted and left a lot of players at the end of deals hanging. A few players spoke about having their stuff in storage cos they had no idea what they'd be doing the next season. Probably not an outlandish correlation with the team's form |  | | |
| Dunne off? on 13:21 - Jan 27 with 2345 views | Ned_Kennedys |
I assume you’re joking? 😂 |  | | |
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| Dunne off? on 13:28 - Jan 27 with 2288 views | QPRSam |
| Dunne off? on 09:49 - Jan 24 by dannyblue |
I’m going to say it again because it’s so astonishing.
Jimmy Dunne has had 50% more touches than ANY other player in our team this season. 1600 compared with 1200 for the next most (Cookie). So much of our attacking play goes through him.
https://fbref.com/en/squads/a7 |
I'm just catching up with this thread but some of these stats for Jimmy Dunne are wild.
Touches in attacking penalty area
Jimmy Dunne 86
Koki Saito 62
Paul Smyth 59
Isn't it crazy our most involved attacking player by far is our centre back turned "inverted target right back" | | | |
| Dunne off? on 13:29 - Jan 27 with 2264 views | BrianMcCarthy |
| Dunne off? on 13:28 - Jan 27 by QPRSam |
I'm just catching up with this thread but some of these stats for Jimmy Dunne are wild.
Touches in attacking penalty area
Jimmy Dunne 86
Koki Saito 62
Paul Smyth 59
Isn't it crazy our most involved attacking player by far is our centre back turned "inverted target right back" |
Would be interesting to see them split into open play v set pieces. |  |
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| Dunne off? on 14:42 - Jan 27 with 2040 views | Dorse |
| Dunne off? on 06:25 - Jan 27 by GaryHaddock |
I think it’s possible to have sympathy for different people at the same time for different reasons.
Pro tip (from experience): If you have a lot to say on LfW don’t give out personal information. |
You mean that fictitious penile measurement wasn't fictitious at all?! My God, man! You should be in the circus! |  |
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| Dunne off? on 14:42 - Jan 27 with 2021 views | Benny_the_Ball |
| Dunne off? on 23:41 - Jan 26 by KensalT |
Football League World and The 72 are well known clickbait sites.
Is that the best you can do?
The WLS link is from April '22 and basically says he wants to stay but might have to leave. Razor sharp investigative journalism.
WLS doesn't name names but says that Championship clubs have been "alerted to Barbet's availability". Well there's a very big difference between that and him getting offers.
However, the WLS piece does tally with HammersmothR's post on page six where he says:
"It got to about Easter time and he was like I can’t keep waiting so he then made the decision to move back to France. He absolutely loved his time with us and desperately wanted to say.
So Barbet didn't start talking about a return to France until Easter. In which case there is no direct link between the November rumour and Barbet going to France.
Now I could be wrong, but I'm pretty sure Easter doesn't fall in November.
Perhaps you could find an online calendar that proves me wrong.
After that you can find yourself a good dictionary and look up the words:
- Availability
- Offer
- Direct
- Link
- Ignore
- List
Happy camping. |
The OP started the thread based on an article published by Football League World. If it was good enough for you then, it's good enough for you now. As for November, I already told you that's your date which doesn't interest me in the slightest. Learn to read.
I note that your thirst for evidence doesn't extend to you providing any to support your conspiracy theory that QPR simply allowed Barbet to walk away. Instead, you continue to deny the obvious through attempts at cancel culture. That culture doesn't wash with me. No amount of "well, we don't know the details", or focusing on an irrelevant date which you invented, or claiming that clear evidence is clickbait, will win you the day.
As you're clearly both stubborn and ignorant, I'll take this opportunity to summarise and close proceedings.
KensalT (KT) believes that QPR simply allowed Barbet to walk away. This is despite the fact that QPR offered Yoann a contract which he rejected (something which he also did at Brentford). KT insists that a solid, reliable defender with 7 years experience in the Championship, in the prime of his physical life at 28/29, and available on a free, received no other offers to remain in England. When presented with irrefutable independent evidence, KT simply dismisses it as clickbait. KT also reckons that Barbet never considered a return to France until the last minute despite the fact that Barbet is French, his partner is French, they have a young son, and ultimately Barbet left QPR to return to his boyhood club, Bordeaux. When challenged repeatedly to offer up evidence to support his conspiracy theory, KT provides none. In desperation KT leans on the opinion of a fellow poster (no offence to that poster).
Benny_the_ball (BTB) disputes KT's notion that QPR simply allowed Barbet to walk away. BTB provided evidence that shows QPR offered Barbet a contract which the player rejected. BTB also provided evidence that Barbet left Brentford on a free having made the same noises during negotiations before rejecting a new contract. Given that Barbet left QPR to join Bordeaux, BTB suggested that the rumours linking Barbet to a return to France may have had some legs. Despite actually moving to France and subsequently spending 2 years there, KT still can't see the link (or doesn't want to). QED.
In short, BTB provided a lucid, coherent argument supported by clear evidence. Meanwhile, KT continues to steadfastly stand by his conspiracy theory that QPR simply allowed Barbet to walk despite offering no supporting evidence and the overwhelming evidence to the contrary.
I'll leave KT to die on that hill. | | | |
| Dunne off? on 14:53 - Jan 27 with 1966 views | Benny_the_Ball |
| Dunne off? on 23:58 - Jan 26 by stainrods_elbow |
As a freelance editor who lurches from feast to famine on a weekly basis (and recently disqualified from Income Support depsite the fact that I have no income right now by Ireland's Social Welfare Dept. - despite paying taxes and insurances to Revenue for many years), I'd love a bit of the 'precarious' lives of modern footballers.
Would you not think Barbet would have a bit in the bank to tide himself over while deciding where he's going to play? [Post edited 27 Jan 0:00]
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Yes, having enjoyed a lucrative career for a decade in England and France, Barbet is now reportedly earning £47,000 per week (£2,444,000 per year) playing for the Saudi Club Al-Riyadh. Very precarious indeed. | | | |
| Dunne off? on 17:26 - Jan 27 with 1547 views | PunteR |
The over-reaction is off the scales.. |  |
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| Dunne off? on 17:48 - Jan 27 with 1417 views | silverbirch |
| Dunne off? on 14:42 - Jan 27 by Benny_the_Ball |
The OP started the thread based on an article published by Football League World. If it was good enough for you then, it's good enough for you now. As for November, I already told you that's your date which doesn't interest me in the slightest. Learn to read.
I note that your thirst for evidence doesn't extend to you providing any to support your conspiracy theory that QPR simply allowed Barbet to walk away. Instead, you continue to deny the obvious through attempts at cancel culture. That culture doesn't wash with me. No amount of "well, we don't know the details", or focusing on an irrelevant date which you invented, or claiming that clear evidence is clickbait, will win you the day.
As you're clearly both stubborn and ignorant, I'll take this opportunity to summarise and close proceedings.
KensalT (KT) believes that QPR simply allowed Barbet to walk away. This is despite the fact that QPR offered Yoann a contract which he rejected (something which he also did at Brentford). KT insists that a solid, reliable defender with 7 years experience in the Championship, in the prime of his physical life at 28/29, and available on a free, received no other offers to remain in England. When presented with irrefutable independent evidence, KT simply dismisses it as clickbait. KT also reckons that Barbet never considered a return to France until the last minute despite the fact that Barbet is French, his partner is French, they have a young son, and ultimately Barbet left QPR to return to his boyhood club, Bordeaux. When challenged repeatedly to offer up evidence to support his conspiracy theory, KT provides none. In desperation KT leans on the opinion of a fellow poster (no offence to that poster).
Benny_the_ball (BTB) disputes KT's notion that QPR simply allowed Barbet to walk away. BTB provided evidence that shows QPR offered Barbet a contract which the player rejected. BTB also provided evidence that Barbet left Brentford on a free having made the same noises during negotiations before rejecting a new contract. Given that Barbet left QPR to join Bordeaux, BTB suggested that the rumours linking Barbet to a return to France may have had some legs. Despite actually moving to France and subsequently spending 2 years there, KT still can't see the link (or doesn't want to). QED.
In short, BTB provided a lucid, coherent argument supported by clear evidence. Meanwhile, KT continues to steadfastly stand by his conspiracy theory that QPR simply allowed Barbet to walk despite offering no supporting evidence and the overwhelming evidence to the contrary.
I'll leave KT to die on that hill. |
Benny the Ball ache
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| Dunne off? on 17:54 - Jan 27 with 1354 views | Lblock |
| Dunne off? on 13:21 - Jan 27 by Ned_Kennedys |
I assume you’re joking? 😂 |
Don’t you start or Joe King will have you up for abuse an all.
I’ve no idea what’s going on but it seems a bit fishy to me |  |
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| Dunne off? on 18:28 - Jan 27 with 1596 views | PunteR |
For the record, it wasn't me. | |
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| Dunne off? on 18:30 - Jan 27 with 1591 views | Rangersw12 |
| Dunne off? on 18:28 - Jan 27 by PunteR |
For the record, it wasn't me. |
Yeah I didn't think for second it would be you mate 👍
Just find it mental that people will go to those lengths about posts on a forum | | | |
| Dunne off? on 18:38 - Jan 27 with 1523 views | paulparker |
Sounds like codswallop to me
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| Dunne off? on 19:38 - Jan 27 with 1383 views | FredManRave |
| Dunne off? on 18:28 - Jan 27 by PunteR |
For the record, it wasn't me. |
You would say that. You're a DJ.
Ooops. |  |
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| Dunne off? (n/t) on 19:44 - Jan 27 with 1369 views | PunteR |
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| Dunne off? on 21:53 - Jan 27 with 452 views | qprxtc |
Jimmy Dunne. Currently a QPR player.
May not be a QPR player at some point.
QPR will continue. So will you and your support of QPR.
Unless it doesn’t. |  | | |
| Dunne off? on 22:07 - Jan 27 with 348 views | PunteR |
| Dunne off? on 21:53 - Jan 27 by qprxtc |
Jimmy Dunne. Currently a QPR player.
May not be a QPR player at some point.
QPR will continue. So will you and your support of QPR.
Unless it doesn’t. |
I almost forgot this was a Jimmy Dunne thread. | |
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