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Cifuentes will be off and away at the first sign of a better offer. As he should be, as they all would be. He's potentially only one dodgy Gavin Ward decision away from us sacking him three months ago.
I've wondered about this. Obviously, we are not currently at the level of Fulham or Brentford. But neither Frank nor Silva seem to have been desperate to move on to a "bigger club".
Are they not being approached for some reason? Or is being manager at a London club more of an allure than we might imagine? Or am I missing something else?
I've wondered about this. Obviously, we are not currently at the level of Fulham or Brentford. But neither Frank nor Silva seem to have been desperate to move on to a "bigger club".
Are they not being approached for some reason? Or is being manager at a London club more of an allure than we might imagine? Or am I missing something else?
I just think in the case of both of them, they are not 'big name' enough for the next level of clubs recruiting. In the case of MC, if Leeds or Burnley came knocking, he'd be mad not to.
I just think in the case of both of them, they are not 'big name' enough for the next level of clubs recruiting. In the case of MC, if Leeds or Burnley came knocking, he'd be mad not to.
I think I disagree with that. I'd say if you're comparing Postecoglu's credentials with either of them, they'd probably have a bigger shout for the Spurs job for example. Depends on what you consider next level I suppose. Everton? West Ham? Villa? Maybe even Newcastle?
I don't think it's a coincidence that by and large it's clubs "down South" that have broken through in the Prem, Bournemouth and Brighton with Brentford and Fulham. If the money's good for players, wouldn't they prefer to play down South than go to the likes of Burnley or SheffU.
Maybe I'm just looking at this through slightly rose tinted specs, but you know you had Bielsa at Leeds and he couldn't move them to the level of the four southern clubs I mention above.
Was just thinking back to that sliding doors moment, pointed out in one of Northern's match reports, when the Bristol City winger went off injured, having terrorised Jimmy in his first game at RB.
I think I disagree with that. I'd say if you're comparing Postecoglu's credentials with either of them, they'd probably have a bigger shout for the Spurs job for example. Depends on what you consider next level I suppose. Everton? West Ham? Villa? Maybe even Newcastle?
I don't think it's a coincidence that by and large it's clubs "down South" that have broken through in the Prem, Bournemouth and Brighton with Brentford and Fulham. If the money's good for players, wouldn't they prefer to play down South than go to the likes of Burnley or SheffU.
Maybe I'm just looking at this through slightly rose tinted specs, but you know you had Bielsa at Leeds and he couldn't move them to the level of the four southern clubs I mention above.
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I agree re Postecoglou, I just think that was Spurs making another shocking decision blindsided by Celtic winning a mostly one team league comfortably. I was thinking more Man Utd, Arsenal etc as the step up though. Everton and West Ham are not really a step up for me from where those clubs are, in fact Silva has already managed Everton so there is that too. Newcastle will have their head in the stars for their next manager with their Saudi funding. These clubs could do a lot worse than trying them, but I don't think they will.
The only reason why we might accept a £2m bid for Dunne is because he will be OOC in the Summer. Kilman went from Wolves to West Ham for £40m. Are we in danger of underselling?]
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Cifuentes will be off and away at the first sign of a better offer. As he should be, as they all would be. He's potentially only one dodgy Gavin Ward decision away from us sacking him three months ago.
Well sorry mate , I disagree with you on this and I've not been drinking. I think he will be here for a while yet.
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I've wondered about this. Obviously, we are not currently at the level of Fulham or Brentford. But neither Frank nor Silva seem to have been desperate to move on to a "bigger club".
Are they not being approached for some reason? Or is being manager at a London club more of an allure than we might imagine? Or am I missing something else?
Silva will get an offer soon enough, and he'll take it. Without hesitation. See what happened previously with him when he was at Hull/Watford. Couldn't wait to snatch your hand off for a go at... Everton.
Frank... Brentford are a terrifically run club. Managers have moved in and out of there and it's made little difference, they've kept progressing. Managers who've been picked off from there haven't done well elsewhere. Uwe Rosler got poached, look how that's gone for him. Warbs... Dean Smith got poached, now a bit of a joke after Norwich and Leicester and in the MLS. Brentford aren't doing well because of the manager. They're doing well because of their set up.
Do you see Thomas Frank being the man to turn around Stoke even? Let alone a big job like Arsenal. If you're a badly run club (as most of them are) don't think picking the guy who's doing well at one of the few smartly run clubs is going to help you. You want the guy who's punching above his budget and succeeding despite the shambles behind him - which is why Danny Rohl is going to be hot property this summer.
Seen a few posts here alluding to Jimmy being no more than a CB who was put at RB for the flick ons and a free kick battering ram. I’d suggest if you don’t think that James can drop the shoulder and beat a man, overlap, rampage down the line or score a few deft goals then, you’ve not really been paying attention.
His form had a wobble a while ago and maybe Marti was looking at his position in the team, but many of us could see Jimmy was the player he is. More than that, he’s a man in the Macca mould, that alone is high praise.
I really was hoping this was ChatGPNourry classic of saving good news but alas it seems that Jimmy may be off. If so that is a real shame and will be bad news short term for the club.
It’s frightening that it might mean Ashby for the rest of the season. If so a battle at the wrong end again would not surprise me. I would not be able to attend any further games as Ashby will either get me arrested or give me health issues.
I feel the club has yet again fkd up here and it’ll be another really poor mark against the board for a great player to leave for a fee way below their worth.
Hopefully Jimmy will sign but if hes not in squad and a starter tomorrow then it’s farewell
Cherish and enjoy life.... this ain't no dress rehearsal
I find it amazing that the club, that must know that there is concern amongst fans about Jimmy's future here have just kept us all in the dark for so long. It's been pretty torturous. Let's hope there is some kind of positive announcement tomorrow because it all feels very unfair on the fans and even more so on Jimmy if he hasn't been offered a proper deal here.
I find it amazing that the club, that must know that there is concern amongst fans about Jimmy's future here have just kept us all in the dark for so long. It's been pretty torturous. Let's hope there is some kind of positive announcement tomorrow because it all feels very unfair on the fans and even more so on Jimmy if he hasn't been offered a proper deal here.
Well at 2pm tomorrow we will know some more , if he’s starting he is likely to stay if he’s Out with a training injury Illness Family emergency
Well at 2pm tomorrow we will know some more , if he’s starting he is likely to stay if he’s Out with a training injury Illness Family emergency
He’s gone
I think Jimmy has showed his metal in terms of the 'Family emergency' one and then some. Perhaps it is time for the club to show that loyalty back because it really feels like it is dithering.
On the other hand, me like so many of us are not privy to what is actually happening. My point is we shouldn't be waiting to see if he play or not tomorrow, we should have been told what the situation is.
I think Jimmy has showed his metal in terms of the 'Family emergency' one and then some. Perhaps it is time for the club to show that loyalty back because it really feels like it is dithering.
On the other hand, me like so many of us are not privy to what is actually happening. My point is we shouldn't be waiting to see if he play or not tomorrow, we should have been told what the situation is.
Surely the club must have a replacement lined up if Jimmy goes - really fear for the rest of the season if we end up with Ashby at RB for the rest of the season. Could easily end up back in relegation trouble
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I think Jimmy has showed his metal in terms of the 'Family emergency' one and then some. Perhaps it is time for the club to show that loyalty back because it really feels like it is dithering.
On the other hand, me like so many of us are not privy to what is actually happening. My point is we shouldn't be waiting to see if he play or not tomorrow, we should have been told what the situation is.
Perhaps, but most likely they want to keep him but can’t meet his demands without offloading material like Santos. He’s 27, needs to capitalise on what he can now, and Nourry is under pressure to keep the books in the black. Letting the public know about this situation would just undercut us in negotiations with other teams for loans, etc. Hopefully good news tomorrow
I think Jimmy has showed his metal in terms of the 'Family emergency' one and then some. Perhaps it is time for the club to show that loyalty back because it really feels like it is dithering.
On the other hand, me like so many of us are not privy to what is actually happening. My point is we shouldn't be waiting to see if he play or not tomorrow, we should have been told what the situation is.
But surely that's because nothing is finalised? Maybe he doesn't want to sign a new contract. How is that the club's fault? If that's the case then it makes perfect sense to try and get some cash for him now. Why would the club be revealing all of that when they still may be negotiating? It would make no sense for playing or commercial reasons and knowing on Monday rather than Saturday isn't that big a deal.
I think Jimmy has showed his metal in terms of the 'Family emergency' one and then some. Perhaps it is time for the club to show that loyalty back because it really feels like it is dithering.
On the other hand, me like so many of us are not privy to what is actually happening. My point is we shouldn't be waiting to see if he play or not tomorrow, we should have been told what the situation is.
I’m not implying this excuse would come jimmy by the way , more of how’s the club gonna try and get away with , Eire excuse would be pretty insulting to jimmy and the fans I’d rather the be honest and say due talks betweeen the two clubs he’s not being played tommoeow
We're six points plus goal difference off the play-offs, with 51 points to play for. We have an outside chance, note, outside.
Given the way the S & P rules and parachute payments load the dice against us, that isn't going to happen often.
Dunne is a key member of the starting eleven and this squad has shown in recent weeks that it could, without any additions, have a real tilt at the play-offs. Note: Could.
Unless Dunne himself wants to move or we are being offered mega bucks - way north of £2m - shouldn't we reject all offers?
We might have to wait years to be in this position again. You know what we're like, we're never far away from a crisis.
People said go for it in the FA cup, fine, but with all the riches and stockpiled talent in the Prem, it's becoming close to impossible to win a cup unless you're in the top division.
Unless our player development and/or income improve exponentially, our circumstances and prospects now are pretty much what they're always going to be. We need to be in the Prem in order to be self-sustaining.
Deep breath: So all that being said, shouldn't we strain every sinew to keep him and go for promotion?
Now you watch everything blow up in my stupid face.
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"Things had started becoming increasingly desperate at Loftus Road but QPR have been handed a massive lifeline and the place has absolutely erupted. it's carnage. It's bedlam. It's 1-1."
Nearly on 14 pages with something that's very simple. Sit him down put the contract in front of him. If he signs, problem over. If he doesn't sign, problem over,he's sold. We cannot afford anymore run down contracts.
Nearly on 14 pages with something that's very simple. Sit him down put the contract in front of him. If he signs, problem over. If he doesn't sign, problem over,he's sold. We cannot afford anymore run down contracts.
But again that's still making assumptions: that someone will offer our valuation; and that Jimmy would agree to their terms.
As always in these threads the belief is that the club has a lot of say, when often they don't.
Every time we get in these situations I think of Brian Clough. One of the greatest managers I’m sure you’ll agree. He never told the press or anyone what his plans were, never explained why he dropped some players and he brought in others. Marti and Nourhi have the same attitude. Why explain your strategy to the opposition ?
I agree, this demand that the club OWES an explanation is becoming a joke. Sometimes any comment from the club may harm current negotiations, whether it be a transfer or a new contract. I mean surely the club rejecting an offer for him says enough.
This constant need for a running commentary from the club is crazy
I find it amazing that the club, that must know that there is concern amongst fans about Jimmy's future here have just kept us all in the dark for so long. It's been pretty torturous. Let's hope there is some kind of positive announcement tomorrow because it all feels very unfair on the fans and even more so on Jimmy if he hasn't been offered a proper deal here.
I obviously know nothing.
But Jimmy is currently in the form of his life.
We have three injury prone centre backs, another who is a short term loan and only one other option at right back, who although has potential, is over confident and prone to serious errors.
If Dunne went, suitable cover at centre back and our only real decent right back, goes, with days left in the window to secure decent cover.
If Dunne is allowed to go and nothing happens with regards to suitable replacement, all the good will towards recovery, is eliminated immediately.
Anything less than £2.5 million and currently it's a ridiculous sale. If Dunne does go, my personal view would be the club has built up some positive backbone.that would be wiped out with no time to cover this loss
Earlier in the window West London Sport said Jimmy is not for sale.
If he goes, the club undoes all the positive things it has done.
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