| FAO Supporters Trust Board Members that post on here 19:22 - Dec 29 with 29446 views | Darran |
Are you aware of the intricate details of what Birch said about the academy today (below) and were aware of what he was going to say about the academy in today’s matchday programme?
A lot has been mentioned on forums and social media about the future direction of our Academy. As I have stated previously, we continue to keep all aspects of our operations, not just the Academy, under review as we adapt to the restrictive financial life outside the Premier League. Once we have the transfer window out of the way I will provide supporters with a further update.
My aim is to remain open, honest and regular in my communications to supporters, whether it’s good or not so good news. But we need to get through January and complete ongoing reviews first, before I can properly update you. So please bear with me a little longer. |  |
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| FAO Supporters Trust Board Members that post on here on 19:25 - Dec 29 with 17984 views | Swanjaxs |
Trev will have to let the board members out of his pocket before they can comment apparently... |  |
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| FAO Supporters Trust Board Members that post on here on 19:35 - Dec 29 with 17927 views | Dr_Winston |
Not sure what the big deal is. Category One academies cost a minimum of £2.5m a year to run. As our income sdecreases, the clubs ability to fund that, especially considering our ongoing financial commitments, remains in the balance.
Birch is saying basically all he can say, which is we'll see where we are after the window closes. |  |
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| FAO Supporters Trust Board Members that post on here on 19:44 - Dec 29 with 17886 views | Darran |
| FAO Supporters Trust Board Members that post on here on 19:35 - Dec 29 by Dr_Winston |
Not sure what the big deal is. Category One academies cost a minimum of £2.5m a year to run. As our income sdecreases, the clubs ability to fund that, especially considering our ongoing financial commitments, remains in the balance.
Birch is saying basically all he can say, which is we'll see where we are after the window closes. |
That’s all well and dandy my friend but it doesn’t answer my question. | |
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| FAO Supporters Trust Board Members that post on here on 19:48 - Dec 29 with 17865 views | longlostjack |
| FAO Supporters Trust Board Members that post on here on 19:35 - Dec 29 by Dr_Winston |
Not sure what the big deal is. Category One academies cost a minimum of £2.5m a year to run. As our income sdecreases, the clubs ability to fund that, especially considering our ongoing financial commitments, remains in the balance.
Birch is saying basically all he can say, which is we'll see where we are after the window closes. |
It’s always so much easier to identify the cost of something on a spreadsheet. The potential costs of NOT having a Category 1 Academy are more difficult to quantify but I’d hazard a guess and say they outweigh any cost savings in the long term. Our U.S “investors” certainly don’t think long term though and are clueless when it comes to the soccer business. |  |
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| FAO Supporters Trust Board Members that post on here on 20:12 - Dec 29 with 17805 views | exiledclaseboy |
Speaking only for myself, I’m not aware of the intricate details and wasn’t aware of what he was going to say in his programme notes. Not that he needs to clear his programme notes with me of course. |  |
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| FAO Supporters Trust Board Members that post on here on 20:16 - Dec 29 with 17784 views | Darran |
| FAO Supporters Trust Board Members that post on here on 20:12 - Dec 29 by exiledclaseboy |
Speaking only for myself, I’m not aware of the intricate details and wasn’t aware of what he was going to say in his programme notes. Not that he needs to clear his programme notes with me of course. |
I see.
I wonder if anyone else knows because I’m still not getting this Trust in the Directors Box thing,it’s achieved fućk all so far and is unlikely to achieve anything in the future and seeing its now been hundreds of games that has achieved fuçk all it should stop.
Unless people are enjoying the freebies of course. | |
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| FAO Supporters Trust Board Members that post on here on 20:18 - Dec 29 with 17777 views | Dr_Winston |
| FAO Supporters Trust Board Members that post on here on 19:48 - Dec 29 by longlostjack |
It’s always so much easier to identify the cost of something on a spreadsheet. The potential costs of NOT having a Category 1 Academy are more difficult to quantify but I’d hazard a guess and say they outweigh any cost savings in the long term. Our U.S “investors” certainly don’t think long term though and are clueless when it comes to the soccer business. |
They could also turn around and point out that we developed Joe Allen and Ben Davies without one.
I get what you're saying, and in an ideal world the Academy would be ring fenced. From what I gather, that's also Birch's preference, but we can't always get what we want.
Our income is dropping rapidly, and our financial commitments are still substantial. Birch wouldn't be doing his job properly if he didn't keep all his options on the table, no matter how unpalatable. | |
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| FAO Supporters Trust Board Members that post on here on 20:19 - Dec 29 with 17767 views | builthjack |
| FAO Supporters Trust Board Members that post on here on 19:35 - Dec 29 by Dr_Winston |
Not sure what the big deal is. Category One academies cost a minimum of £2.5m a year to run. As our income sdecreases, the clubs ability to fund that, especially considering our ongoing financial commitments, remains in the balance.
Birch is saying basically all he can say, which is we'll see where we are after the window closes. |
Produce 1 player a year and it more than pays for itself. |  |
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| FAO Supporters Trust Board Members that post on here on 20:21 - Dec 29 with 17757 views | exiledclaseboy |
| FAO Supporters Trust Board Members that post on here on 20:16 - Dec 29 by Darran |
I see.
I wonder if anyone else knows because I’m still not getting this Trust in the Directors Box thing,it’s achieved fućk all so far and is unlikely to achieve anything in the future and seeing its now been hundreds of games that has achieved fuçk all it should stop.
Unless people are enjoying the freebies of course. |
I’d rather chew off my toe nails than go anywhere near the directors’ box. It’s enough of a chore watching us from the east at the moment. [Post edited 29 Dec 2019 20:28]
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| FAO Supporters Trust Board Members that post on here on 20:24 - Dec 29 with 17743 views | Darran |
| FAO Supporters Trust Board Members that post on here on 20:21 - Dec 29 by exiledclaseboy |
I’d rather chew off my toe nails than go anywhere near the directors’ box. It’s enough of a chore watching us from the east at the moment. [Post edited 29 Dec 2019 20:28]
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Well yes it’s the same people in there representing the Trust all the time and you aren’t one of them,well I haven’t noticed you anyway though you are a bit short. | |
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| FAO Supporters Trust Board Members that post on here on 20:30 - Dec 29 with 17715 views | monmouth |
| FAO Supporters Trust Board Members that post on here on 20:24 - Dec 29 by Darran |
Well yes it’s the same people in there representing the Trust all the time and you aren’t one of them,well I haven’t noticed you anyway though you are a bit short. |
Name names Daz, then we can burn the ones with their noses in the trough at the next election. Especially unnecessary now with legal action supposedly pending. |  |
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| FAO Supporters Trust Board Members that post on here on 20:36 - Dec 29 with 17694 views | BillyChong |
| FAO Supporters Trust Board Members that post on here on 20:30 - Dec 29 by monmouth |
Name names Daz, then we can burn the ones with their noses in the trough at the next election. Especially unnecessary now with legal action supposedly pending. |
Do they spend the entire duration of their time in the box in Birch’s ear asking questions e.g. about access to the detailed accounts? If not there’s no need for them to be in there. |  | | |
| FAO Supporters Trust Board Members that post on here on 20:36 - Dec 29 with 17689 views | longlostjack |
| FAO Supporters Trust Board Members that post on here on 20:30 - Dec 29 by monmouth |
Name names Daz, then we can burn the ones with their noses in the trough at the next election. Especially unnecessary now with legal action supposedly pending. |
This. | |
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| FAO Supporters Trust Board Members that post on here on 20:37 - Dec 29 with 17682 views | exiledclaseboy |
| FAO Supporters Trust Board Members that post on here on 20:30 - Dec 29 by monmouth |
Name names Daz, then we can burn the ones with their noses in the trough at the next election. Especially unnecessary now with legal action supposedly pending. |
Before this gets out of hand and we start burning people at the stake it’s worth pointing out that the trust board took a decision sometime ago that we should continue to be represented in the box and that representation should be limited to the elected officers of the board. That is:
Chair, supporter director, vice chair, and associate director. Plus a guest where unavoidable.
It wasn’t a decision I agreed with but it was a decision taken by a majority of the board. | |
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| FAO Supporters Trust Board Members that post on here on 20:38 - Dec 29 with 17681 views | Darran |
| FAO Supporters Trust Board Members that post on here on 20:30 - Dec 29 by monmouth |
Name names Daz, then we can burn the ones with their noses in the trough at the next election. Especially unnecessary now with legal action supposedly pending. |
I’m not going to name them but Stuart is in there just about every game with others.
I’ve said about it for the last few years,other than a nice day out for individuals what are they gaining from it? | |
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| FAO Supporters Trust Board Members that post on here on 20:38 - Dec 29 with 17681 views | monmouth |
| FAO Supporters Trust Board Members that post on here on 20:36 - Dec 29 by BillyChong |
Do they spend the entire duration of their time in the box in Birch’s ear asking questions e.g. about access to the detailed accounts? If not there’s no need for them to be in there. |
I’ll take an uninformed punt if you will...
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I think we know the answer. | |
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| FAO Supporters Trust Board Members that post on here on 20:45 - Dec 29 with 17643 views | monmouth |
| FAO Supporters Trust Board Members that post on here on 20:37 - Dec 29 by exiledclaseboy |
Before this gets out of hand and we start burning people at the stake it’s worth pointing out that the trust board took a decision sometime ago that we should continue to be represented in the box and that representation should be limited to the elected officers of the board. That is:
Chair, supporter director, vice chair, and associate director. Plus a guest where unavoidable.
It wasn’t a decision I agreed with but it was a decision taken by a majority of the board. |
Nah, burn them. | |
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| FAO Supporters Trust Board Members that post on here on 20:46 - Dec 29 with 17634 views | monmouth |
| FAO Supporters Trust Board Members that post on here on 20:38 - Dec 29 by Darran |
I’m not going to name them but Stuart is in there just about every game with others.
I’ve said about it for the last few years,other than a nice day out for individuals what are they gaining from it? |
‘I’m not going to name them, but Stuart...’
I love you Dazzler. | |
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| FAO Supporters Trust Board Members that post on here on 20:48 - Dec 29 with 17616 views | Darran |
| FAO Supporters Trust Board Members that post on here on 20:37 - Dec 29 by exiledclaseboy |
Before this gets out of hand and we start burning people at the stake it’s worth pointing out that the trust board took a decision sometime ago that we should continue to be represented in the box and that representation should be limited to the elected officers of the board. That is:
Chair, supporter director, vice chair, and associate director. Plus a guest where unavoidable.
It wasn’t a decision I agreed with but it was a decision taken by a majority of the board. |
It’s wrong and needs to stop. | |
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| FAO Supporters Trust Board Members that post on here on 20:49 - Dec 29 with 17611 views | Darran |
| FAO Supporters Trust Board Members that post on here on 20:46 - Dec 29 by monmouth |
‘I’m not going to name them, but Stuart...’
I love you Dazzler. |
We know about him mun.  | |
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| FAO Supporters Trust Board Members that post on here on 20:49 - Dec 29 with 17605 views | Phil_S |
| FAO Supporters Trust Board Members that post on here on 20:46 - Dec 29 by monmouth |
‘I’m not going to name them, but Stuart...’
I love you Dazzler. |
I knew what he had written in the programme the minute I read it on the OS
I watched today from the South East corner of the ground wish I had stayed in the pub 😂 |  | | |
| FAO Supporters Trust Board Members that post on here on 20:51 - Dec 29 with 17592 views | Darran |
| FAO Supporters Trust Board Members that post on here on 20:49 - Dec 29 by Phil_S |
I knew what he had written in the programme the minute I read it on the OS
I watched today from the South East corner of the ground wish I had stayed in the pub 😂 |
What is being gained out of it Phil? | |
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| FAO Supporters Trust Board Members that post on here on 21:09 - Dec 29 with 17531 views | Kilkennyjack |
| FAO Supporters Trust Board Members that post on here on 20:18 - Dec 29 by Dr_Winston |
They could also turn around and point out that we developed Joe Allen and Ben Davies without one.
I get what you're saying, and in an ideal world the Academy would be ring fenced. From what I gather, that's also Birch's preference, but we can't always get what we want.
Our income is dropping rapidly, and our financial commitments are still substantial. Birch wouldn't be doing his job properly if he didn't keep all his options on the table, no matter how unpalatable. |
Yes, nor forgetting Jazz and Macca.
Plus Roberts was already into youth when we hit the Prem.
We wont be able pull in ‘body snatchers’ like James and Oli from elsewhere anymore.
And in truth ...for every James there are 10 kenji’s , and for every Oli there are 10 Rory’s.
I would love the club to produce one local player per year.
Every cloud.... the gap between Ben and Roberts was about 7 years.
Not good enough. |  |
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| FAO Supporters Trust Board Members that post on here on 21:27 - Dec 29 with 17459 views | Highjack |
| FAO Supporters Trust Board Members that post on here on 19:35 - Dec 29 by Dr_Winston |
Not sure what the big deal is. Category One academies cost a minimum of £2.5m a year to run. As our income sdecreases, the clubs ability to fund that, especially considering our ongoing financial commitments, remains in the balance.
Birch is saying basically all he can say, which is we'll see where we are after the window closes. |
Wouldn’t the club be worth more to prospective buyers if it’s got a top class academy regularly bringing through players worth £15 million+? |  |
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| FAO Supporters Trust Board Members that post on here on 22:14 - Dec 29 with 17394 views | Phil_S |
| FAO Supporters Trust Board Members that post on here on 20:51 - Dec 29 by Darran |
What is being gained out of it Phil? |
Being gained out of what? Presence in the directors box?
My vote went the same as Cudeys on attendance although as a director of the football club then Stuart should be there imo. | | | |
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