| Is Dan James money enough to satisfy this alleged debt that never decreases ? 10:28 - Jun 8 with 8281 views | NotLoyal |
I sense they are smelling the Yankee dollar here.
Selling off the youngsters and no more coming through or joining us. |  |
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| Is Dan James money enough to satisfy this alleged debt that never decreases ? on 06:45 - Jun 9 with 1756 views | Brynmill_Jack |
Narsingh’s Contract is up at the end of June . Imagine if beaky hadn’t have made the Andre Ayew, Borja and Bony transfer clusterf*cks we’d be in a strong position right now. |  |
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| Is Dan James money enough to satisfy this alleged debt that never decreases ? on 10:29 - Jun 9 with 1626 views | NotLoyal |
| Is Dan James money enough to satisfy this alleged debt that never decreases ? on 12:20 - Jun 8 by jasper_T |
The "alleged debt" never decreases because we've not taken any money in since last summer. How's it supposed to go down when every Championship club runs an operational loss? |
I say alleged debt without any proof there is a debt, granted there could be but I've seen nothing to prove it. | |
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| Is Dan James money enough to satisfy this alleged debt that never decreases ? on 10:44 - Jun 9 with 1601 views | Cooperman |
| Is Dan James money enough to satisfy this alleged debt that never decreases ? on 10:29 - Jun 9 by NotLoyal |
I say alleged debt without any proof there is a debt, granted there could be but I've seen nothing to prove it. |
Debt and planned operational losses are two completely different things but many get one mixed up with the other.
I cannot comment on levels of debt as I have not seen detailed accounts but I will stake my next pay cheque on planned operational losses in 2018 - 19. [Post edited 9 Jun 2019 10:45]
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| Is Dan James money enough to satisfy this alleged debt that never decreases ? on 10:47 - Jun 9 with 1592 views | NotLoyal |
| Is Dan James money enough to satisfy this alleged debt that never decreases ? on 10:44 - Jun 9 by Cooperman |
Debt and planned operational losses are two completely different things but many get one mixed up with the other.
I cannot comment on levels of debt as I have not seen detailed accounts but I will stake my next pay cheque on planned operational losses in 2018 - 19. [Post edited 9 Jun 2019 10:45]
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I know the trust haven't had the access they want and NDA was mentioned. All I'm looking for is access to the alleged losses by the trust and for them to say, yes it's all good, we are being run correctly, it's in hand.
And the reason they are not allowed access tells me it isn't.
Asset stripping is the only alternative reason without assurances. | |
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| Is Dan James money enough to satisfy this alleged debt that never decreases ? on 10:52 - Jun 9 with 1580 views | Cooperman |
| Is Dan James money enough to satisfy this alleged debt that never decreases ? on 10:47 - Jun 9 by NotLoyal |
I know the trust haven't had the access they want and NDA was mentioned. All I'm looking for is access to the alleged losses by the trust and for them to say, yes it's all good, we are being run correctly, it's in hand.
And the reason they are not allowed access tells me it isn't.
Asset stripping is the only alternative reason without assurances. |
Indeed, the lack of transparency is certainly a worry. | |
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| Is Dan James money enough to satisfy this alleged debt that never decreases ? on 11:36 - Jun 9 with 1528 views | magicdaps10 |
| Is Dan James money enough to satisfy this alleged debt that never decreases ? on 12:20 - Jun 8 by jasper_T |
The "alleged debt" never decreases because we've not taken any money in since last summer. How's it supposed to go down when every Championship club runs an operational loss? |
Gate receipts
Merchandise
Oh and I forgot.....we had a 5m payment in from Everton for Siggy, we just had a 3m final payment on Llorente, lets not forget the money from Potter and his backroom staff. |  |
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| Is Dan James money enough to satisfy this alleged debt that never decreases ? on 11:40 - Jun 9 with 1521 views | NotLoyal |
| Is Dan James money enough to satisfy this alleged debt that never decreases ? on 11:36 - Jun 9 by magicdaps10 |
Gate receipts
Merchandise
Oh and I forgot.....we had a 5m payment in from Everton for Siggy, we just had a 3m final payment on Llorente, lets not forget the money from Potter and his backroom staff. |
17 players on loan or gone 🤔 | |
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| Is Dan James money enough to satisfy this alleged debt that never decreases ? on 11:48 - Jun 9 with 1508 views | Cooperman |
| Is Dan James money enough to satisfy this alleged debt that never decreases ? on 11:36 - Jun 9 by magicdaps10 |
Gate receipts
Merchandise
Oh and I forgot.....we had a 5m payment in from Everton for Siggy, we just had a 3m final payment on Llorente, lets not forget the money from Potter and his backroom staff. |
Paying off a string of managers and backroom staff
Running an academy
Paying 400 salaries
Paying for the merchandise before it’s sold to the public | |
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| Is Dan James money enough to satisfy this alleged debt that never decreases ? on 11:55 - Jun 9 with 1493 views | NotLoyal |
| Is Dan James money enough to satisfy this alleged debt that never decreases ? on 11:48 - Jun 9 by Cooperman |
Paying off a string of managers and backroom staff
Running an academy
Paying 400 salaries
Paying for the merchandise before it’s sold to the public |
I would just love to be assured mate, and would throw my full support behind these part owners if I could be, as much as I'm sure we all would.
Appeasing appointments like Britton and Curtis may please certain intelligencia but not those who know exactly the game they are playing. | |
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| Is Dan James money enough to satisfy this alleged debt that never decreases ? on 12:17 - Jun 9 with 1471 views | jasper_T |
| Is Dan James money enough to satisfy this alleged debt that never decreases ? on 11:36 - Jun 9 by magicdaps10 |
Gate receipts
Merchandise
Oh and I forgot.....we had a 5m payment in from Everton for Siggy, we just had a 3m final payment on Llorente, lets not forget the money from Potter and his backroom staff. |
Gate receipts at our 20k stadium and merchandise sold from a club shop we've just had to shut.
It's crazy to imagine we've somehow been making money when 90% of the football league doesn't and we have massive and obvious drains on our finances still hanging about.
The scheduled £5m payment for Gylfi was borrowed against the January after he left. We didn't have cash on hand even when the Premier League was paying us £100m a year. |  | | |
| Is Dan James money enough to satisfy this alleged debt that never decreases ? on 12:44 - Jun 9 with 1447 views | magicdaps10 |
So we have taken in money since last summer!? | |
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| Is Dan James money enough to satisfy this alleged debt that never decreases ? on 12:45 - Jun 9 with 1443 views | magicdaps10 |
| Is Dan James money enough to satisfy this alleged debt that never decreases ? on 11:48 - Jun 9 by Cooperman |
Paying off a string of managers and backroom staff
Running an academy
Paying 400 salaries
Paying for the merchandise before it’s sold to the public |
Not arguing that but we have taken money in since last summer. | |
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| Is Dan James money enough to satisfy this alleged debt that never decreases ? on 12:51 - Jun 9 with 1427 views | dameedna |
This is a positive outcome..
another positive outcone is not selling to Leeds and ..
a hypothetical outcome is we could get promoted partly due to the funds received. |  | | |
| Is Dan James money enough to satisfy this alleged debt that never decreases ? on 12:57 - Jun 9 with 1414 views | NotLoyal |
| Is Dan James money enough to satisfy this alleged debt that never decreases ? on 12:51 - Jun 9 by dameedna |
This is a positive outcome..
another positive outcone is not selling to Leeds and ..
a hypothetical outcome is we could get promoted partly due to the funds received. |
Thanks to Huw ? | |
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| Is Dan James money enough to satisfy this alleged debt that never decreases ? on 14:54 - Jun 9 with 1353 views | Badlands |
| Is Dan James money enough to satisfy this alleged debt that never decreases ? on 10:29 - Jun 9 by NotLoyal |
I say alleged debt without any proof there is a debt, granted there could be but I've seen nothing to prove it. |
but you are claiming asset striping with, 'nothing to prove it.'
In the PL, TV and League contributed c£122 million
Last season it will be around £3.2 million (+£41 million parachute)
The difference is c £75 million this year.
Next season there will be even less money from outside the club and thanks to our 'fans' who stay at home when the Liverpools and Man Us don't play or claim to be sticking it to the man our already ridiculously low tickets sales will provide even less for the club.
That means their investment has lost c £35 million.
But we also know a massive gamble was taken to bring players in on ridiculous transfers and even more bank breaking wages.
For a simple guide try
https://swansea.vitalfootball.co.uk/wheres-the-money-gone-not-to-d-c-united-fina |  |
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| Is Dan James money enough to satisfy this alleged debt that never decreases ? on 18:32 - Jun 9 with 1301 views | jacktheripper |
| Is Dan James money enough to satisfy this alleged debt that never decreases ? on 11:40 - Jun 9 by NotLoyal |
17 players on loan or gone 🤔 |
But we didn't get rid of the highest earners, Bony, the Ayews and Baston. Our wage bill alone in the Prem was over 90mill and added to that another 25mill just on day to day running costs. We required some dramatic cost cutting to get these down to manageable levels. |  | | |
| Is Dan James money enough to satisfy this alleged debt that never decreases ? on 06:07 - Jun 10 with 1202 views | Brynmill_Jack |
| Is Dan James money enough to satisfy this alleged debt that never decreases ? on 11:55 - Jun 9 by NotLoyal |
I would just love to be assured mate, and would throw my full support behind these part owners if I could be, as much as I'm sure we all would.
Appeasing appointments like Britton and Curtis may please certain intelligencia but not those who know exactly the game they are playing. |
That is Birch’s doing. He must have been mortified how badly the relationship between the club and fans had gone. He’s trying his best to get us back on an even keel and he’s probably the best man available in British football to do it.
If we get rid of the Ayews the only millstone left would be Borja and whilst he’s not ripping up trees I’d be prepared to give him a go in the championship. With Celina , Routledge and possibly Montero (ok forgot about that millstone lol) around him he could very well hit 20 plus. If we keep McBurnie there could be a good partnership there (although socks seems to want out too - if we got ten million pounds plus for him that would ease things even more).
One things for sure - it's going to be a very interesting summer . | |
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| Is Dan James money enough to satisfy this alleged debt that never decreases ? on 07:00 - Jun 10 with 1185 views | Cooperman |
| Is Dan James money enough to satisfy this alleged debt that never decreases ? on 06:07 - Jun 10 by Brynmill_Jack |
That is Birch’s doing. He must have been mortified how badly the relationship between the club and fans had gone. He’s trying his best to get us back on an even keel and he’s probably the best man available in British football to do it.
If we get rid of the Ayews the only millstone left would be Borja and whilst he’s not ripping up trees I’d be prepared to give him a go in the championship. With Celina , Routledge and possibly Montero (ok forgot about that millstone lol) around him he could very well hit 20 plus. If we keep McBurnie there could be a good partnership there (although socks seems to want out too - if we got ten million pounds plus for him that would ease things even more).
One things for sure - it's going to be a very interesting summer . |
That assumes Baston would be willing to play for us at Championship level. I can’t see it myself. | |
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| Is Dan James money enough to satisfy this alleged debt that never decreases ? on 07:04 - Jun 10 with 1179 views | Cooperman |
| Is Dan James money enough to satisfy this alleged debt that never decreases ? on 11:55 - Jun 9 by NotLoyal |
I would just love to be assured mate, and would throw my full support behind these part owners if I could be, as much as I'm sure we all would.
Appeasing appointments like Britton and Curtis may please certain intelligencia but not those who know exactly the game they are playing. |
That probably applies to all of us who read PS.
Their stance is turning fans away rather than galvanising the fan base. | |
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| Is Dan James money enough to satisfy this alleged debt that never decreases ? on 12:17 - Jun 10 with 1065 views | andrew |
| Is Dan James money enough to satisfy this alleged debt that never decreases ? on 06:07 - Jun 10 by Brynmill_Jack |
That is Birch’s doing. He must have been mortified how badly the relationship between the club and fans had gone. He’s trying his best to get us back on an even keel and he’s probably the best man available in British football to do it.
If we get rid of the Ayews the only millstone left would be Borja and whilst he’s not ripping up trees I’d be prepared to give him a go in the championship. With Celina , Routledge and possibly Montero (ok forgot about that millstone lol) around him he could very well hit 20 plus. If we keep McBurnie there could be a good partnership there (although socks seems to want out too - if we got ten million pounds plus for him that would ease things even more).
One things for sure - it's going to be a very interesting summer . |
What makes you think socks wants to go? He seems to love the club more than anyone. | |
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| Is Dan James money enough to satisfy this alleged debt that never decreases ? on 17:25 - Jun 10 with 940 views | MrSwerve |
| Is Dan James money enough to satisfy this alleged debt that never decreases ? on 12:17 - Jun 10 by andrew |
What makes you think socks wants to go? He seems to love the club more than anyone. |
Has he kissed the badge? |  |
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| Is Dan James money enough to satisfy this alleged debt that never decreases ? on 17:27 - Jun 10 with 938 views | hobo |
| Is Dan James money enough to satisfy this alleged debt that never decreases ? on 07:00 - Jun 10 by Cooperman |
That assumes Baston would be willing to play for us at Championship level. I can’t see it myself. |
He's not been lighting up La Liga has he. The Championship will be the best he can hope for at the moment and he should be chomping at the bit to make this the season where he rekindles his career |  | | |
| Is Dan James money enough to satisfy this alleged debt that never decreases ? on 17:40 - Jun 10 with 922 views | Cooperman |
| Is Dan James money enough to satisfy this alleged debt that never decreases ? on 17:27 - Jun 10 by hobo |
He's not been lighting up La Liga has he. The Championship will be the best he can hope for at the moment and he should be chomping at the bit to make this the season where he rekindles his career |
We cannot afford him on our payroll for the next twelve months. | |
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| Is Dan James money enough to satisfy this alleged debt that never decreases ? on 19:19 - Jun 10 with 859 views | NotLoyal |
| Is Dan James money enough to satisfy this alleged debt that never decreases ? on 14:54 - Jun 9 by Badlands |
but you are claiming asset striping with, 'nothing to prove it.'
In the PL, TV and League contributed c£122 million
Last season it will be around £3.2 million (+£41 million parachute)
The difference is c £75 million this year.
Next season there will be even less money from outside the club and thanks to our 'fans' who stay at home when the Liverpools and Man Us don't play or claim to be sticking it to the man our already ridiculously low tickets sales will provide even less for the club.
That means their investment has lost c £35 million.
But we also know a massive gamble was taken to bring players in on ridiculous transfers and even more bank breaking wages.
For a simple guide try
https://swansea.vitalfootball.co.uk/wheres-the-money-gone-not-to-d-c-united-fina |
I'll keep it simpler, people who cover things up have something to hide. | |
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| Is Dan James money enough to satisfy this alleged debt that never decreases ? on 19:43 - Jun 10 with 834 views | swan_si |
Apparently Real Zaragoza interested in Borja, according to Football league world, whoever they are.
http://c.newsnow.co.uk/A/988447120?-1881:1065 |  | | |
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