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probably more based on watching him in training for a few weeks and thinking he's not quite ready yet. A Swindon fan I know reckons he is nowhere near Championship level yet
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Gladwin to go out on loan again on 10:20 - Jan 19 with 4869 views
Gladwin to go out on loan again on 10:02 - Jan 19 by daveB
probably more based on watching him in training for a few weeks and thinking he's not quite ready yet. A Swindon fan I know reckons he is nowhere near Championship level yet
It's not really good enough Dave and it's a damning indictment of our scouting ability/process.
We should have scouts watching him at Swindon who are able to assess whether the guy can help us this season.
Instead we've disrupted him from playing regularly (and reasonably well) to come back here for a fortnight and then boot him back out again. We're getting in the way of his progress by doing so.
I get the feeling we just bought him as part of the Luongo deal to get it moving a bit quicker.
Gladwin to go out on loan again on 10:53 - Jan 19 by fakekerby
It's not really good enough Dave and it's a damning indictment of our scouting ability/process.
We should have scouts watching him at Swindon who are able to assess whether the guy can help us this season.
Instead we've disrupted him from playing regularly (and reasonably well) to come back here for a fortnight and then boot him back out again. We're getting in the way of his progress by doing so.
I get the feeling we just bought him as part of the Luongo deal to get it moving a bit quicker.
The story that went round at the time was that Luongo had a massive sell on percentage for spurs, so we bought two swindon players, weighting the joint fee heavily onto gladwin, so that swindon got to keep more of the money.
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Gladwin to go out on loan again on 11:02 - Jan 19 with 4676 views
id say we are better off playing gladwin than Hoilett who wont be here in 6 months time, surely that's common sense
And Bowles is onside, Swinburne has come rushing out of his goal , what can Bowles do here , onto the left foot no, on to the right foot
That’s there that’s two, and that’s Bowles
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Gladwin to go out on loan again on 11:24 - Jan 19 with 4583 views
Just a bit puzzling to me given the glowing terms used by Les at the time of gladwins signature. He made it sound as if we had the next Enzo Scifo on our hands If developed carefully.
If JFH Has reached the conclusion he is of no use to us this season, I have to accept it. Disappointing.
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Gladwin to go out on loan again on 11:29 - Jan 19 with 4549 views
Gladwin to go out on loan again on 10:53 - Jan 19 by fakekerby
It's not really good enough Dave and it's a damning indictment of our scouting ability/process.
We should have scouts watching him at Swindon who are able to assess whether the guy can help us this season.
Instead we've disrupted him from playing regularly (and reasonably well) to come back here for a fortnight and then boot him back out again. We're getting in the way of his progress by doing so.
I get the feeling we just bought him as part of the Luongo deal to get it moving a bit quicker.
not really a damning indictment, we've spotted a player with potential who is not quite ready yet and signed him early to try and develop him into a better player. He's far from the finished article and the people working with him every day feel a loan will help that development. We could just wait 3 years and pay 10 million for him but this is the new approach and takes more work
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Gladwin to go out on loan again on 11:30 - Jan 19 with 4541 views
To be fair even Ferdinand said that a few of the signings made were with 'next season in mind'. I have no problem with him getting regular games elsewhere until he's in a position to compete. Seems ridiculous to judge him purely on that FA Cup 60mins though (albeit the coaches have their opinions too).
I also thought that he was bought as a package so Swindon could keep more of the sell-on from Luongo, as well as having potential to be decent himself, obviously.
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Gladwin to go out on loan again on 12:13 - Jan 19 with 4390 views
Gladwin to go out on loan again on 12:01 - Jan 19 by simmo
To be fair even Ferdinand said that a few of the signings made were with 'next season in mind'. I have no problem with him getting regular games elsewhere until he's in a position to compete. Seems ridiculous to judge him purely on that FA Cup 60mins though (albeit the coaches have their opinions too).
I also thought that he was bought as a package so Swindon could keep more of the sell-on from Luongo, as well as having potential to be decent himself, obviously.
That "next season in mind" comment made me think they were stockpiling young players in case of Plan B ie: not getting promoted and being hit with a transfer embargo under FFP, which is of course now inevitable
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Gladwin to go out on loan again on 12:21 - Jan 19 with 4352 views
Gladwin to go out on loan again on 12:13 - Jan 19 by highleverhoopL
That "next season in mind" comment made me think they were stockpiling young players in case of Plan B ie: not getting promoted and being hit with a transfer embargo under FFP, which is of course now inevitable
Possibly, but there's nothing wrong with taking the opportunity to sign someone that isn't first team ready right now. Some are young and less experienced so are more of a risk (Blackwood, Donaldson), even if you get their development spot on, others are close already (YSY, Robinson) so just need some time and games elsewhere before coming back to challenge - hopefully Gladwin is the latter.
PP's point is fair though and probably one I would subscribe to - as Hoilett is out of contract, perhaps it's better to just play Gladwin now and give him the games to help his development, swallowing the fact he's not quite ready or as effective. But then Gladwin might never begood enough.
Let's see what happens, the use of the loan market has also been tainted by people like Harriman and Furlong who have done well during their loans only to be ignored anyway.
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Gladwin to go out on loan again on 12:35 - Jan 19 with 4309 views
Gladwin to go out on loan again on 12:21 - Jan 19 by simmo
Possibly, but there's nothing wrong with taking the opportunity to sign someone that isn't first team ready right now. Some are young and less experienced so are more of a risk (Blackwood, Donaldson), even if you get their development spot on, others are close already (YSY, Robinson) so just need some time and games elsewhere before coming back to challenge - hopefully Gladwin is the latter.
PP's point is fair though and probably one I would subscribe to - as Hoilett is out of contract, perhaps it's better to just play Gladwin now and give him the games to help his development, swallowing the fact he's not quite ready or as effective. But then Gladwin might never begood enough.
Let's see what happens, the use of the loan market has also been tainted by people like Harriman and Furlong who have done well during their loans only to be ignored anyway.
Hopefully once we are definitely safe they will feel able to blood a few more youngsters and drop the old lags with imminent contract expiries..
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Gladwin to go out on loan again on 12:35 - Jan 19 with 4306 views
He's come back and they've had a look at him and decided he isn't ready. He's only been in professional football for a few years. He either comes back better developed next season or is sold on. Petrasso is proving that there is life after loans
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Gladwin to go out on loan again on 12:39 - Jan 19 with 4280 views
Gladwin to go out on loan again on 10:53 - Jan 19 by fakekerby
It's not really good enough Dave and it's a damning indictment of our scouting ability/process.
We should have scouts watching him at Swindon who are able to assess whether the guy can help us this season.
Instead we've disrupted him from playing regularly (and reasonably well) to come back here for a fortnight and then boot him back out again. We're getting in the way of his progress by doing so.
I get the feeling we just bought him as part of the Luongo deal to get it moving a bit quicker.
Should we only buy players who are finished and ready for this season? What about taking a punt on potential to be nurtured?
I think Gladwin is very raw (a common facet of players who come through non league not academies) but there is plenty to encourage him stepping up to this level
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Gladwin to go out on loan again on 12:48 - Jan 19 with 4248 views
Gladwin to go out on loan again on 12:35 - Jan 19 by highleverhoopL
Hopefully once we are definitely safe they will feel able to blood a few more youngsters and drop the old lags with imminent contract expiries..
Yeah, there will be a point in the season where we're playing for nothing, you'd hope that will be a chance to blood some less experienced options. I'd do it now personally, but I guess the board feel there's an outside chance of playoffs.
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Gladwin to go out on loan again on 12:50 - Jan 19 with 4239 views
I think half the problem with the discontent at this is that we as fans just don't trust QPR and the loan system anymore. Whereas going out on loan generally meant the player was forgotten and then sold in recent years, hopefully things have moved on and he will be watched regularly with a view to getting up to the level we think he can get to and integrating him in to the team. I hope thats what it means anyway.
Gladwin to go out on loan again on 12:50 - Jan 19 by aston_hoop
I think half the problem with the discontent at this is that we as fans just don't trust QPR and the loan system anymore. Whereas going out on loan generally meant the player was forgotten and then sold in recent years, hopefully things have moved on and he will be watched regularly with a view to getting up to the level we think he can get to and integrating him in to the team. I hope thats what it means anyway.
Our players used to go on loan to conference teams, not play, return and then disappear without a trace.
At least now they go to League One and Two teams and seem to be highly regarded in the main - Furlong and Gladwin did well, Harriman and Ehmer both got permanent deals.
It's the bit where after they do well on loan they get a first team shot here that is completely missing! How Furlong didn't get a single minute of football after Perch went out injured for weeks is really poor.
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Gladwin to go out on loan again on 13:18 - Jan 19 with 4150 views
The thing here is to make sure he goes on loan in the championship, sending him back to league 1 IMHO should be last resort but clearly better than playing in the reserves
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Gladwin to go out on loan again on 13:19 - Jan 19 with 4144 views
Gladwin to go out on loan again on 10:20 - Jan 19 by Hooparoo
I know we all like to have our opinions but I think we need to back Jimmy's judgement now that he's had a look at all of the squad.
Burn the heretic!
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