| Nigel Farage 15:28 - May 28 with 23771 views | union_jack |
Nigel seems to be voicing the opinions of the silent majority of this country. Yes?
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| Nigel Farage on 17:29 - Jun 17 with 1012 views | Joesus_Of_Narbereth |
| Nigel Farage on 16:22 - Jun 17 by Scotia |
And thats why a freeze on non-essential immigration won't work, amongst other reasons.
Most immigrants work in some capacity at least, who else is going to do these jobs? |
Who did these jobs before? |  |
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| Nigel Farage on 18:03 - Jun 17 with 953 views | union_jack |
| Nigel Farage on 17:21 - Jun 17 by onehunglow |
Newcastle v Ipswich ….
Caernarfon v Cardiff
You telling me the difference is less ?
We can’t even decide on the language
Btw,why do plaid speak on English on the Senate . |
Why? Because then EVERYONE can understand what they are saying but wish they couldn’t ! | |
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| Nigel Farage on 18:25 - Jun 17 with 935 views | SullutaCreturned |
| Nigel Farage on 07:04 - Jun 15 by Gwyn737 |
Aren’t the financial arguments similar, too?
I’d say wales would be worse off with independence and and we’re worse of being outside the EU. |
Again, maybe it's just opinions. Persnally, if we left the Union and joined the EU we'd have the same situation as Northern Ireland and hwo did that go!
Imagine a hard border between Wales and our biggest trading partner.
The thing for me is, if we left the Union it may take us 10-20 years to gain membership of the EU (Copenhagen criteria make it dificult for us) and what do we do with no EU AND no Union?
Mind you the EU only gave us 600 million per year, money the UK gave them in the first place. Depending on who you listen to, Westminster gives us (subsidises us) by anything from 2-13 billion. |  | | |
| Nigel Farage on 18:25 - Jun 17 with 934 views | majorraglan |
| Nigel Farage on 15:57 - Jun 17 by Joesus_Of_Narbereth |
Local people often can’t or struggle to apply for these jobs they aren’t open to the general public you have to join the agency. The agencies hoover up immigrants and students. Agency work is unreliable and insecure but that’s the way the employers like it because they can use low paid unskilled labour when they need them then dump them immediately when they don’t. It hands the employer all the power, the worker becomes just a drone to be used and abused, often not knowing where their next shift will come from and whether they’ll earn anything this month.
Working conditions for millions are worse than they’ve been in decades. |
There’s a lot of truth here, but it’s also true that a lot of indigenous people don’t want to do the type of work the immigrants do because it’s hard graft in difficult conditions for invariably minimum wage. I’ve had cause to do some work at a place which is predominantly staffed by migrant workers, when I’ve spoken to the HR manager I’m told they can’t get locals interested in working there. Work needs to pay and there needs to be a bigger difference between working and a life on benefits. | | | |
| Nigel Farage on 18:26 - Jun 17 with 929 views | onehunglow |
| Nigel Farage on 18:03 - Jun 17 by union_jack |
Why? Because then EVERYONE can understand what they are saying but wish they couldn’t ! |
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| Nigel Farage on 18:39 - Jun 17 with 904 views | johnlangy |
| Nigel Farage on 16:22 - Jun 17 by Scotia |
And thats why a freeze on non-essential immigration won't work, amongst other reasons.
Most immigrants work in some capacity at least, who else is going to do these jobs? |
When people talk about immigrants working in the UK they regularly say that the immigrants are needed because British people are too lazy to do those jobs.
One job they always use as an example is fruit/vegetable picking. A lady from Cambridge rang one of the radio stations a few days ago and she was asked about this very subject, that area having a huge number of that type of job. She said local people had always done those jobs but when employers had the chance to recruit overseas workers at cheaper rates that's exactly what they did.
In other words the British people, at least in this example, weren't lazy at all. The problem is the greedy b*s*a*d employers and the fact that successive Governments have allowed them to get away with it.. | | | |
| Nigel Farage on 18:41 - Jun 17 with 897 views | onehunglow |
| Nigel Farage on 18:39 - Jun 17 by johnlangy |
When people talk about immigrants working in the UK they regularly say that the immigrants are needed because British people are too lazy to do those jobs.
One job they always use as an example is fruit/vegetable picking. A lady from Cambridge rang one of the radio stations a few days ago and she was asked about this very subject, that area having a huge number of that type of job. She said local people had always done those jobs but when employers had the chance to recruit overseas workers at cheaper rates that's exactly what they did.
In other words the British people, at least in this example, weren't lazy at all. The problem is the greedy b*s*a*d employers and the fact that successive Governments have allowed them to get away with it.. |
And we finalised British cotton for cheaper made shite from all points east ,decimating once proud northern towns and cities . | |
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| Nigel Farage on 18:48 - Jun 17 with 889 views | Scotia |
| Nigel Farage on 18:39 - Jun 17 by johnlangy |
When people talk about immigrants working in the UK they regularly say that the immigrants are needed because British people are too lazy to do those jobs.
One job they always use as an example is fruit/vegetable picking. A lady from Cambridge rang one of the radio stations a few days ago and she was asked about this very subject, that area having a huge number of that type of job. She said local people had always done those jobs but when employers had the chance to recruit overseas workers at cheaper rates that's exactly what they did.
In other words the British people, at least in this example, weren't lazy at all. The problem is the greedy b*s*a*d employers and the fact that successive Governments have allowed them to get away with it.. |
I agree, pretty much entirely. But there are still far too many economically inactive people in the UK some of them could be doing the jobs immigrants are gladly doing.
Until that is sorted we'll need non-essential immigration | | | |
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| Nigel Farage on 18:54 - Jun 17 with 872 views | Gwyn737 |
I appreciate that blanketing Reform voters as racist is very naive and not very clever.
However… if you read today’s manifesto and can’t see the figures are ludicrous then I really don’t know what to say. | | | |
| Nigel Farage on 18:54 - Jun 17 with 872 views | Joesus_Of_Narbereth |
| Nigel Farage on 18:39 - Jun 17 by johnlangy |
When people talk about immigrants working in the UK they regularly say that the immigrants are needed because British people are too lazy to do those jobs.
One job they always use as an example is fruit/vegetable picking. A lady from Cambridge rang one of the radio stations a few days ago and she was asked about this very subject, that area having a huge number of that type of job. She said local people had always done those jobs but when employers had the chance to recruit overseas workers at cheaper rates that's exactly what they did.
In other words the British people, at least in this example, weren't lazy at all. The problem is the greedy b*s*a*d employers and the fact that successive Governments have allowed them to get away with it.. |
Yes that’s an incredibly patronising, condescending and borderline racist thing to think that all immigrants are good for is doing the shit jobs that British people are too superior to do.
The notion that we have to import millions of people from around the world just because they’re the only people who can possibly serve us warm beer and cold chips for an hour every other Saturday is beyond my comprehension. | |
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| Nigel Farage on 18:59 - Jun 17 with 867 views | Wingstandwood |
| Nigel Farage on 18:39 - Jun 17 by johnlangy |
When people talk about immigrants working in the UK they regularly say that the immigrants are needed because British people are too lazy to do those jobs.
One job they always use as an example is fruit/vegetable picking. A lady from Cambridge rang one of the radio stations a few days ago and she was asked about this very subject, that area having a huge number of that type of job. She said local people had always done those jobs but when employers had the chance to recruit overseas workers at cheaper rates that's exactly what they did.
In other words the British people, at least in this example, weren't lazy at all. The problem is the greedy b*s*a*d employers and the fact that successive Governments have allowed them to get away with it.. |
When Simon's Construction Ltd had the contract for Boots Fforestfach shortly after the start of the new millenium there were two 'illegals' from Romania working for a dry-lining company sub-contractor from Cornwall.
They were working 18 hour shifts at a slave labour rate! Is it any wonder why the owner would travel to sites via private-plane to monitor contract progression. And owning an expensive yacht (of type you could live in all year round!) in the South of France was proceeds of treating workers like absolute sh1t!
It was nice to see a local South Wales union a few years back fighting for it's own members, because the 'going rate' was no more with foreign cheap wage exploitation meaning that its members were losing both employment and decent wages.
And its only natural to assume that this is widspread throughout the entire U.K and fuelled by huge numbers that have come in!!!! |  |
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| Nigel Farage on 19:20 - Jun 17 with 844 views | Gwyn737 |
| Nigel Farage on 18:54 - Jun 17 by Joesus_Of_Narbereth |
Yes that’s an incredibly patronising, condescending and borderline racist thing to think that all immigrants are good for is doing the shit jobs that British people are too superior to do.
The notion that we have to import millions of people from around the world just because they’re the only people who can possibly serve us warm beer and cold chips for an hour every other Saturday is beyond my comprehension. |
TBF that was said as just one example.
The biggest sector for migrant workers is health and care. | | | |
| Nigel Farage on 19:23 - Jun 17 with 841 views | Wingstandwood |
And onto another myth that U.K workers were protected by EU employment laws.
Complete and utter bullsh1t to many bearing in mind the mass proliferation of employment agencies and zero-hour contracts under the EU and Tony Blair’s New Labour days onwards.
No bank holiday pay, no overtime pay, safety equipment and clothing had to be paid for and provided by the employee, finished off midday without even working a full 8 hour shift. Refusal to work 7X12 hour shifts often meant that people were sacked!
Just ask any long standing ASDA employee about new employment conditions contracts that had to be signed, meaning that employees were stripped of paid tea breaks and having bank holidays off. And ask any ASDA employee how many are working full time outside of management and you will likely to be told NONE!
This is past and present modern day Britain for the private sector employee under both Labour and Conservative governments. | |
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| Nigel Farage on 21:41 - Jun 17 with 738 views | Boundy |
| Nigel Farage on 19:23 - Jun 17 by Wingstandwood |
And onto another myth that U.K workers were protected by EU employment laws.
Complete and utter bullsh1t to many bearing in mind the mass proliferation of employment agencies and zero-hour contracts under the EU and Tony Blair’s New Labour days onwards.
No bank holiday pay, no overtime pay, safety equipment and clothing had to be paid for and provided by the employee, finished off midday without even working a full 8 hour shift. Refusal to work 7X12 hour shifts often meant that people were sacked!
Just ask any long standing ASDA employee about new employment conditions contracts that had to be signed, meaning that employees were stripped of paid tea breaks and having bank holidays off. And ask any ASDA employee how many are working full time outside of management and you will likely to be told NONE!
This is past and present modern day Britain for the private sector employee under both Labour and Conservative governments. |
Bang on ,my wife has the unfortunate pleasure of working there ,no one in her particular store is contracted to work more than 16 hours with the majority 12 hours .So desperate are they for workers that their now employing night shift staff who cannot speak nor write English, you can imagine the chaos when the day shift has to interpret and then redo the mess they made. | |
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| Nigel Farage on 21:58 - Jun 17 with 710 views | Wingstandwood |
| Nigel Farage on 21:41 - Jun 17 by Boundy |
Bang on ,my wife has the unfortunate pleasure of working there ,no one in her particular store is contracted to work more than 16 hours with the majority 12 hours .So desperate are they for workers that their now employing night shift staff who cannot speak nor write English, you can imagine the chaos when the day shift has to interpret and then redo the mess they made. |
I was shocked when I asked a lady on the till in ASDA how many outside of management were working in there full time to then hear her say "NONE".
Private sector job employment outside of public sector in Wales is absolutely shocking both in jobs available, job security and job conditions.
In fact the vast majority of jobs advertised by Jobcentre Plus in Swansea are agency jobs. Just type in "labourer, factory worker, care worker, warehouse worker" along with Swansea into the search and the results are shocking.
So where are these thousands of jobs that Welsh people do not want? Is it any wonder why so many are finding greater security by being on the sick when there is zero to minimal job security out there?
https://findajob.dwp.gov.uk/ | |
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| Nigel Farage on 23:30 - Jun 17 with 663 views | builthjack |
Farage figures do not add up. The man can’t count.
But he knows he won’t get in, so can say anything.
As a matter of interest, who funds Reform? |  |
| Swansea Indepenent Poster Of The Year 2021. Dr P / Mart66 / Roathie / Parlay / E20/ Duffle was 2nd, but he is deluded and thinks in his little twisted brain that he won. Poor sod. We let him win this year, as he has cried for a whole year. His 14 usernames, bless his cotton socks.
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| Nigel Farage on 23:41 - Jun 17 with 653 views | KeithHaynes |
| Nigel Farage on 23:30 - Jun 17 by builthjack |
Farage figures do not add up. The man can’t count.
But he knows he won’t get in, so can say anything.
As a matter of interest, who funds Reform? |
Wouldn’t surprise me of the Wetherspoons guy chips in. |  |
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| Nigel Farage on 00:07 - Jun 18 with 634 views | majorraglan |
| Nigel Farage on 23:30 - Jun 17 by builthjack |
Farage figures do not add up. The man can’t count.
But he knows he won’t get in, so can say anything.
As a matter of interest, who funds Reform? |
The figures are a nonsense, the IFS and numerous other economists have come out and said as much, it’s a Truss type budget.
He’s saying what he likes because it’s unlikely he’ll ever be in a position to implement it, and if he tried it would go pear shaped - much worse than Truss. What it is doing is making life really uncomfortable for the conservatives because despite the Truss budget, they still a core support who belief that a similar budget can be introduced.
There are journalists in The Telegraph lapping it up, it’s as though Truss never existed. | | | |
| Nigel Farage on 06:40 - Jun 18 with 575 views | Scotia |
| Nigel Farage on 00:07 - Jun 18 by majorraglan |
The figures are a nonsense, the IFS and numerous other economists have come out and said as much, it’s a Truss type budget.
He’s saying what he likes because it’s unlikely he’ll ever be in a position to implement it, and if he tried it would go pear shaped - much worse than Truss. What it is doing is making life really uncomfortable for the conservatives because despite the Truss budget, they still a core support who belief that a similar budget can be introduced.
There are journalists in The Telegraph lapping it up, it’s as though Truss never existed. |
This is the problem with Farage he's an excellent campaigning politician and people will believe and follow him. But there is no substance to the man or policies.
How a alleged former banker can make such absurd financial claims and be believed is beyond me.
He's a fraud, I read this week that he doesn't even drink beer if the cameras aren't rolling. | | | |
| Nigel Farage on 08:37 - Jun 18 with 551 views | waynekerr55 |
| Nigel Farage on 00:07 - Jun 18 by majorraglan |
The figures are a nonsense, the IFS and numerous other economists have come out and said as much, it’s a Truss type budget.
He’s saying what he likes because it’s unlikely he’ll ever be in a position to implement it, and if he tried it would go pear shaped - much worse than Truss. What it is doing is making life really uncomfortable for the conservatives because despite the Truss budget, they still a core support who belief that a similar budget can be introduced.
There are journalists in The Telegraph lapping it up, it’s as though Truss never existed. |
The telegraph has gone full quack. |  |
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| Nigel Farage on 09:06 - Jun 18 with 523 views | Joesus_Of_Narbereth |
| Nigel Farage on 21:58 - Jun 17 by Wingstandwood |
I was shocked when I asked a lady on the till in ASDA how many outside of management were working in there full time to then hear her say "NONE".
Private sector job employment outside of public sector in Wales is absolutely shocking both in jobs available, job security and job conditions.
In fact the vast majority of jobs advertised by Jobcentre Plus in Swansea are agency jobs. Just type in "labourer, factory worker, care worker, warehouse worker" along with Swansea into the search and the results are shocking.
So where are these thousands of jobs that Welsh people do not want? Is it any wonder why so many are finding greater security by being on the sick when there is zero to minimal job security out there?
https://findajob.dwp.gov.uk/ |
My point exactly, it’s exploitative. The government and big business love the agencies and the mass immigration of unskilled labour though. It keeps wages at rock bottom and massages the employment figures whilst giving companies all the power over them.
Here’s a little history quiz for everyone:
Q) Which catastrophic event in human history led to the single greatest rise in wages and living standards globally, especially amongst the poorer people. What can we learn from this?
Answers on a post card. | |
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| Nigel Farage on 09:16 - Jun 18 with 517 views | onehunglow |
| Nigel Farage on 09:06 - Jun 18 by Joesus_Of_Narbereth |
My point exactly, it’s exploitative. The government and big business love the agencies and the mass immigration of unskilled labour though. It keeps wages at rock bottom and massages the employment figures whilst giving companies all the power over them.
Here’s a little history quiz for everyone:
Q) Which catastrophic event in human history led to the single greatest rise in wages and living standards globally, especially amongst the poorer people. What can we learn from this?
Answers on a post card. |
I read something about our youth vis a vis hard work in the fields .
Now,I’m struggling to imagine how they could possible pick a tonne of cabbages when glued to their mobiles .
Just how can people make out our kids are willing to bend their backs in physical toil | |
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| Nigel Farage on 09:25 - Jun 18 with 501 views | Scotia |
| Nigel Farage on 09:06 - Jun 18 by Joesus_Of_Narbereth |
My point exactly, it’s exploitative. The government and big business love the agencies and the mass immigration of unskilled labour though. It keeps wages at rock bottom and massages the employment figures whilst giving companies all the power over them.
Here’s a little history quiz for everyone:
Q) Which catastrophic event in human history led to the single greatest rise in wages and living standards globally, especially amongst the poorer people. What can we learn from this?
Answers on a post card. |
It's not just agency jobs that are available though. The swansea.com stadium doesn't use agency staff, but they can't get sufficient numbers to stop contracting security roles out to specialized security (or whoever they are) and catering is usually under staffed. The contracted security staff are casual labourers (usually around other jobs) but are employed by the company and not via an agency.
I would have thought that during a cost of living crisis there would be people dying to take on an extra few hours of ,lets face it, easy work each week. But there aren't, if it wasn't for immigration I think the North and South stand would have to close.
Mrs Scotia has involvement with care home staffing levels - again this isn't agency work the T&C's are decent enough for the sector as it's employed via the local authroity. There are never enough staff to go around. She panics at this time of year every year because many foreign students visa's expire and they go home.
Agency work is exploitative, no doubt, but there is no reason for anyone to be economically inactive for no good reason.
Perhaps the NHS could make a stand and refuse to use agency staff, but pay overtime staff the rate they'd pay an agency for a staff member? I'd vote for that. | | | |
| Nigel Farage on 09:40 - Jun 18 with 489 views | Wingstandwood |
| Nigel Farage on 09:06 - Jun 18 by Joesus_Of_Narbereth |
My point exactly, it’s exploitative. The government and big business love the agencies and the mass immigration of unskilled labour though. It keeps wages at rock bottom and massages the employment figures whilst giving companies all the power over them.
Here’s a little history quiz for everyone:
Q) Which catastrophic event in human history led to the single greatest rise in wages and living standards globally, especially amongst the poorer people. What can we learn from this?
Answers on a post card. |
The reason Tony Blair's New Labour and The Conservatives have an obvious love and desperation for mass immigration is indeed because it drives wages and employment conditions down and puts a gun to indigenous workers heads "If you don't do that 12 - 18 hour shift, a foreigner will".
In fact over 30 years back even in days way before insane mass immigration levels ITV done a 'special' about poverty wage exploitation and mentioned a catering company called ‘Ring And Brymer’.
This programme also enlightened that The Conservative Party was nowhere near as hostile to the black economy (I previously mentioned slave labour) as what many people thought.
In fact there is no better way of driving wages to rock bottom levels by using slave labour to lower wages and to impact legal employment wages and conditions also. It's is a racket! | |
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| Nigel Farage on 10:15 - Jun 18 with 443 views | majorraglan |
Interesting article on the BBC today which reports that investment in the U.K. economy over the over 24 of the last 30 years is the lowest of any of the G7 countries, the performance and investment levels since the 2008 financial crash are described as “dire” and is the reason for the decrease in living standards.
Nationally, this is down to the Conservative government policy, in Wales it’s Labour and I firmly believe the lack of investment in a relief road around Newport is a major issue. I really hope Starmer exerts some pressure to get that done. Brexit, political uncertainty and planning laws are other factors.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cl44edly2ryo | | | |
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