| Potential LSA Protest Blackburn game 18:49 - Feb 15 with 32876 views | Rangersw12 |
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| Potential LSA Protest Blackburn game on 12:56 - Feb 17 with 2750 views | BrianMcCarthy |
| Potential LSA Protest Blackburn game on 08:06 - Feb 17 by distortR |
The letter is addressed to the board, though.
I'm not against the idea of a 'clear the air' meeting, whatever, I just think the initial approach should be a lot more professional. But yeah, it's by the by, really.
Brian - Cat A v Cat B, it may be harder to have players poached, and would allow us to do it to the other Cat B clubs, hmm.
But if we were Cat A and Arsenal came in for a 15 yr old, we say no - what then? I remember Dean Parrott's mum (Karli?) talking about the pressure put on her family by the 'bigger' clubs to get her son to leave us. |
You might be right, my man.
Hopefully, Simon will have answers for us at some stage. |  |
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| Potential LSA Protest Blackburn game on 14:13 - Feb 17 with 2618 views | PinnerPaul |
| Potential LSA Protest Blackburn game on 10:30 - Feb 17 by Wegerles_Stairs |
There is truth in that; we're one good season away from being a London-based Premier League club. For all the factors Clive has listed, the main one is they're incompetent, which will never change. With them in charge, we will keep getting everything wrong. All it takes is someone to come in with some brains, football smarts and a plan, and we shouldn't keep ruling out that prospect simply because the current owners have spaffed everything up the wall. |
All it takes?
So either you didn't read Clive's summary of the issues or you don't agree with it.
"Brains' can't change FFP, can't magic a site for a new ground and get it built in under 10 years, can't sell a player for £10M etc etc etc
Only 1 good season away from the PL - that's the thinking that's led clubs in this league to 'gain' some absolute head case owners. | | | |
| Potential LSA Protest Blackburn game on 14:18 - Feb 17 with 2591 views | PinnerPaul |
| Potential LSA Protest Blackburn game on 09:45 - Feb 17 by daveB |
The point is the LSA are trying to defuse the situation and avoid people in the streets, banners etc screaming for everyone to be sacked like we did under Thompson and partly under Flavio which wouldn't end well as Clive points out on this thread |
Defuse the situation?
Well it won't help us win and it certainly won't stop the nutters on SM media.
Fans at the ground were still singing on Tuesday right up to the 2nd goal - didn't feel like a demonstration was in the offing.
We don't agree on this, obviously, but aren't they actually adding to the 'situation' rather than 'diffusing' it? | | | |
| Potential LSA Protest Blackburn game on 14:20 - Feb 17 with 2589 views | Benny_the_Ball |
| Potential LSA Protest Blackburn game on 07:42 - Feb 17 by Northernr |
We're in a really awkward situation here in that the problem, and the solution, is the owners.
The owners are incompetent. You only have to look at their record from the moment they got here, they don't know what they're doing. We had an incredible opportunity to cement our place at the top table just as the TV money was exploding again, and they blew it. We got a reprieve, and they blew that too. A catalogue of mistakes - binning Warnock, appointing Hughes, the money spent on wnkr footballers - that have got us into this position. Though it should be said there was plenty of support within the fanbase for everything they did at every turn. So, they're your problem, and if Les and Hoos go, Critchley goes, they're still here, they'll keep making mistakes because however well meaning they are, they're not very good at the job.
However...
They do pay for their mistakes. They pay for it every month to the tune of £1.8m every single month. And they don't leverage that against the club as debt, which they could do, they just turn it into equity. So when people say "Tony out" "Ruben out" "sack the board" what they actually mean is they want somebody to own it, because if they literally did just walk away and dump us then we'd no longer be aa going concern as of the date of the next pay roll, because we can literally only support the salary bill we're currently paying (£20m+) because one rich bloke writes a cheque for £1.8m a month. If they walked away from it you'd see exactly what happened at Caterham, another well-meaning sporting venture that proved to be a money pit because they didn't know what they were doing.
A buyer would have to take QPR on knowing the following things...
1 - You're on the hook for £1.8m a month, every month, starting this month in 11 days' time. Eight years of austerity under Hoos has only managed to wrestle it down that far.
2 - You're on the hook for the remaining five years of a £17m FFP fine, which we agreed to pay in ten yearly installments.
3 - You're on the hook for whatever remains on a £20m+ training ground development.
4 - You can't spend money to improve the team, because it's right on the FFP line already.
5 - If you ignore the FFP line and try to financially dope it up a division anyway then you'd have to go up and stay up for a long period of time. Try to do it and fail to get promoted, it's another Derby and Sheff Wed with multiple points deductions and transfer bans to come. Succeed but come back, you're on the hook for another raft of fines and points deductions when you get back.
6 - The stadium that is expensive to run and is strangling your income needs extensive, expensive work doing to it, and you can't move out of it easily because there is no alternative, you're stuck here for at leats ten years and that's if you identify a site and start the planning process now. You inherit a non-existent relationship with the local council who think the club is just a vehicle for foreign property speculators.
That's an incredibly difficult situation. You'd literally have to be so rich that money didn't matter. With the monthly losses, the training ground, the fine, it would probably cost you north of £50m just to get the keys.
In all honesty, who's going to buy that? Your best case scenario is a Newcastle or Man City situation attracted by the location. Your worst case is somebody who looks at Loftus Road, looks at Batman Close, looks at the all weather pitch and looks at the army barracks and thinks 'you could put a hell of a high rise development on that if only you could be rid of the pesky football club'. Your most likely case is nobody at all, because it's a money pit.
I think, owner wise, we should be careful what we wish for and how we go about any protests.
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I agree with most of that, which is why I said above that targeting Lee and Les for answers is pointless as they're just employees. The problem and solution, as you say, lies with the owners. However, your point focuses mainly on the most extreme outcome, change of ownership. There are shades of grey and it is only right that fans seek an end to years of incompetency by holding the owners to account. If we do nothing, then we can't complain of apathetic performances on the pitch as we're just as guilty of apathy off it.
A strategic and pragmatic approach is required to help the board understand that whilst they're welcome here, we won't accept clear and obvious failure. They are custodians of our club and need to do better. We require clarity on what they're trying to achieve and how they are going to set about achieving it.
At the moment, their approach, to put it mildly, is muddled and confusing. If your mission statement is "buy low, sell high", "develop youth" and "use analytics" then commit to it wholly and put mechanisms in place that give it the best chance of succeeding (even if that means plagiarising Brentford). A DoF with a track record of success as a DoF. A scouting and recruitment network that looks beyond the manager's little black book. Developing players we own above loans. Either binning the academy to focus on the B team or spending what's required to make it cat1 so our prospects aren't lost to EEEP. Looking beyond Gumtree freebies for a new stadium site. Repairing the relationship with H&F or establishing new ones with Ealing and Brent. Ensuring that the speakers work all of the time and not just when they want to drown out fan discontent.
QPR fans on the whole understand our place in football's ecosystem and don't expect to win every week. As a result, we're a largely forgiving and understanding bunch. If the owners have a clear direction that makes sense then we're more likely to be empathetic if ultimately it doesn't work out. What we can't allow is blatant incompetency and complacency, otherwise we'll continue to watch every other London club pass us by whilst we sit and bemoan FFP regulations that exist for all. |  | | |
| Potential LSA Protest Blackburn game on 15:15 - Feb 17 with 2532 views | themodfather |
i was hoping for a crucifixion or two, a bonfire and a few romps across the pitch but the war paint will stay in the box. it would be nice if the club meet as many of the fan groups/media etc for an "open chat" as we are all concerned for the club and want to see a few wins asap.
our support has been great for so long and those who go every game and/or most, want something to cheer. | | | |
| Potential LSA Protest Blackburn game on 15:31 - Feb 17 with 2501 views | Rangersw12 |
| Potential LSA Protest Blackburn game on 14:13 - Feb 17 by PinnerPaul |
All it takes?
So either you didn't read Clive's summary of the issues or you don't agree with it.
"Brains' can't change FFP, can't magic a site for a new ground and get it built in under 10 years, can't sell a player for £10M etc etc etc
Only 1 good season away from the PL - that's the thinking that's led clubs in this league to 'gain' some absolute head case owners. |
The whole attitude from the DOF to the CEO is we cant do anything because of FFP when its proven to be nonsense other clubs with lower budgets are doing better than us
The club needs to better in every aspect from the maintenance of the ground to recruitment so "brains" do matter
This throwing our hands up woe us bollocks is a massive part of the problem | | | |
| Potential LSA Protest Blackburn game on 15:52 - Feb 17 with 2473 views | PinnerPaul |
| Potential LSA Protest Blackburn game on 15:31 - Feb 17 by Rangersw12 |
The whole attitude from the DOF to the CEO is we cant do anything because of FFP when its proven to be nonsense other clubs with lower budgets are doing better than us
The club needs to better in every aspect from the maintenance of the ground to recruitment so "brains" do matter
This throwing our hands up woe us bollocks is a massive part of the problem |
I was replying to SE on the specific issue of the owners, they were the ones he described as needing brains.
ON THE OWNERS alone, as Clive pointed out, all the 'brains' in the world are not going to sort out the issues they face.
There's the practical side as well as 'brains' you need £25M PER YEAR to have sloshing around not doing much that you are happy to kiss goodbye to until.......? | | | |
| Potential LSA Protest Blackburn game on 16:16 - Feb 17 with 2395 views | Benny_the_Ball |
| Potential LSA Protest Blackburn game on 15:52 - Feb 17 by PinnerPaul |
I was replying to SE on the specific issue of the owners, they were the ones he described as needing brains.
ON THE OWNERS alone, as Clive pointed out, all the 'brains' in the world are not going to sort out the issues they face.
There's the practical side as well as 'brains' you need £25M PER YEAR to have sloshing around not doing much that you are happy to kiss goodbye to until.......? |
If they are dipping into their personal wealth to keep the club afloat then that's a further indictment on their ability to run a successful, self-sustaining football club. It's on them to put mechanisms in place that enable the club to thrive and create financial headroom. The facts don't lie. In 2011 they acquired a reasonably stable club in the Premier League. 12 years on we're still going backwards. This simply can't continue. | | | |
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| Potential LSA Protest Blackburn game on 16:24 - Feb 17 with 2367 views | stantheman10 |
| Potential LSA Protest Blackburn game on 14:20 - Feb 17 by Benny_the_Ball |
I agree with most of that, which is why I said above that targeting Lee and Les for answers is pointless as they're just employees. The problem and solution, as you say, lies with the owners. However, your point focuses mainly on the most extreme outcome, change of ownership. There are shades of grey and it is only right that fans seek an end to years of incompetency by holding the owners to account. If we do nothing, then we can't complain of apathetic performances on the pitch as we're just as guilty of apathy off it.
A strategic and pragmatic approach is required to help the board understand that whilst they're welcome here, we won't accept clear and obvious failure. They are custodians of our club and need to do better. We require clarity on what they're trying to achieve and how they are going to set about achieving it.
At the moment, their approach, to put it mildly, is muddled and confusing. If your mission statement is "buy low, sell high", "develop youth" and "use analytics" then commit to it wholly and put mechanisms in place that give it the best chance of succeeding (even if that means plagiarising Brentford). A DoF with a track record of success as a DoF. A scouting and recruitment network that looks beyond the manager's little black book. Developing players we own above loans. Either binning the academy to focus on the B team or spending what's required to make it cat1 so our prospects aren't lost to EEEP. Looking beyond Gumtree freebies for a new stadium site. Repairing the relationship with H&F or establishing new ones with Ealing and Brent. Ensuring that the speakers work all of the time and not just when they want to drown out fan discontent.
QPR fans on the whole understand our place in football's ecosystem and don't expect to win every week. As a result, we're a largely forgiving and understanding bunch. If the owners have a clear direction that makes sense then we're more likely to be empathetic if ultimately it doesn't work out. What we can't allow is blatant incompetency and complacency, otherwise we'll continue to watch every other London club pass us by whilst we sit and bemoan FFP regulations that exist for all. |
They are not the custodians they are the owners. If you want custodians then there needs to be a supporters buy out of the club which I can't see coming so until that time they are the owners who can do as they please the same as a multitude of owners of other clubs have done | | | |
| Potential LSA Protest Blackburn game on 16:44 - Feb 17 with 2313 views | Blue_Castello |
| Potential LSA Protest Blackburn game on 16:16 - Feb 17 by Benny_the_Ball |
If they are dipping into their personal wealth to keep the club afloat then that's a further indictment on their ability to run a successful, self-sustaining football club. It's on them to put mechanisms in place that enable the club to thrive and create financial headroom. The facts don't lie. In 2011 they acquired a reasonably stable club in the Premier League. 12 years on we're still going backwards. This simply can't continue. |
Seriously I would have thought that the multitude of posts and information already posted would show that our club does not generate anywhere near enough money from our ticket sales, merchandise and anything else the club can sell. They have put together deals with third party suppliers wherever possible but the attraction of a team in the Championship does not generate as much money as the Premiership obviously.
We have a much loved antiquated stadium that doesn't help generate anywhere near enough revenue. We still have a £20 million plus wage bill which is hard to cut back any further unless we accept that we pay wages that will not attract players and will inevitably lead to our relegation.
We just go over old ground time and again, they inherited a club with Premiership money and we all accept that mistakes were made and money was wasted, but that was 8 years ago now.
I guess it is an indictment of the way they run the club but it's also very similar to a lot of our opposition only they have bigger fanbases, bigger stadiums, bigger crowds and therefore increased revenue. | | | |
| Potential LSA Protest Blackburn game on 16:52 - Feb 17 with 2277 views | Northernr |
| Potential LSA Protest Blackburn game on 14:20 - Feb 17 by Benny_the_Ball |
I agree with most of that, which is why I said above that targeting Lee and Les for answers is pointless as they're just employees. The problem and solution, as you say, lies with the owners. However, your point focuses mainly on the most extreme outcome, change of ownership. There are shades of grey and it is only right that fans seek an end to years of incompetency by holding the owners to account. If we do nothing, then we can't complain of apathetic performances on the pitch as we're just as guilty of apathy off it.
A strategic and pragmatic approach is required to help the board understand that whilst they're welcome here, we won't accept clear and obvious failure. They are custodians of our club and need to do better. We require clarity on what they're trying to achieve and how they are going to set about achieving it.
At the moment, their approach, to put it mildly, is muddled and confusing. If your mission statement is "buy low, sell high", "develop youth" and "use analytics" then commit to it wholly and put mechanisms in place that give it the best chance of succeeding (even if that means plagiarising Brentford). A DoF with a track record of success as a DoF. A scouting and recruitment network that looks beyond the manager's little black book. Developing players we own above loans. Either binning the academy to focus on the B team or spending what's required to make it cat1 so our prospects aren't lost to EEEP. Looking beyond Gumtree freebies for a new stadium site. Repairing the relationship with H&F or establishing new ones with Ealing and Brent. Ensuring that the speakers work all of the time and not just when they want to drown out fan discontent.
QPR fans on the whole understand our place in football's ecosystem and don't expect to win every week. As a result, we're a largely forgiving and understanding bunch. If the owners have a clear direction that makes sense then we're more likely to be empathetic if ultimately it doesn't work out. What we can't allow is blatant incompetency and complacency, otherwise we'll continue to watch every other London club pass us by whilst we sit and bemoan FFP regulations that exist for all. |
Don't disagree with you mate, I think I was referring more to the club now being besieged across social media with "Les, Lee, Tony, Amit OUT" every time they post, say or do anything. That's not seeking answers or improvement, that's demanding they leave, which is where my point comes in. Leave without a buyer, we're fcked. And who's gonna buy it? |  | | |
| Potential LSA Protest Blackburn game on 18:13 - Feb 17 with 2144 views | Wegerles_Stairs |
| Potential LSA Protest Blackburn game on 14:13 - Feb 17 by PinnerPaul |
All it takes?
So either you didn't read Clive's summary of the issues or you don't agree with it.
"Brains' can't change FFP, can't magic a site for a new ground and get it built in under 10 years, can't sell a player for £10M etc etc etc
Only 1 good season away from the PL - that's the thinking that's led clubs in this league to 'gain' some absolute head case owners. |
Flavio got us up in four years, yet is despised by the fanbase. The insane clown posse have taken us from the Premier League to the bottom half of the Championship, pissed away £500m and failed to find a new ground, yet continue to be defended.
How come teams like Barnsley, Brentford, Huddersfield and Luton make the play-offs (and even get promoted) despite FFP? How come Brentford manage to build a new ground? How come Bristol City and Boro manage to sell players for £10m? | | | |
| Potential LSA Protest Blackburn game on 19:04 - Feb 17 with 2104 views | paulparker |
I think we need to sit back and do nothing, after all we are only QPR and we have always been sh1t , right ? I mean What right do we have to compete against the likes of Millwall, Luton , & Preston
Our owners are just the best I mean they are paying 1.8millon a month out of the goodness of their hearts and should never be questioned why they do it
Also Les , Ramsey and Hoos all deserve new deals as this is a 20 year project |  |
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| Potential LSA Protest Blackburn game on 20:29 - Feb 17 with 2045 views | QPR_Jim |
| Potential LSA Protest Blackburn game on 18:13 - Feb 17 by Wegerles_Stairs |
Flavio got us up in four years, yet is despised by the fanbase. The insane clown posse have taken us from the Premier League to the bottom half of the Championship, pissed away £500m and failed to find a new ground, yet continue to be defended.
How come teams like Barnsley, Brentford, Huddersfield and Luton make the play-offs (and even get promoted) despite FFP? How come Brentford manage to build a new ground? How come Bristol City and Boro manage to sell players for £10m? |
Briatore was pre FFP so could sack managers repeatedly until hitting a winner (Warnock).
Our current owners are putting in as much money as possible, if the people within the club can't get the same results as Barnsley, Brentford, Huddersfield and Luton then you have to look within the club not the owners. |  | | |
| Potential LSA Protest Blackburn game on 08:30 - Feb 18 with 1950 views | daveB |
| Potential LSA Protest Blackburn game on 14:18 - Feb 17 by PinnerPaul |
Defuse the situation?
Well it won't help us win and it certainly won't stop the nutters on SM media.
Fans at the ground were still singing on Tuesday right up to the 2nd goal - didn't feel like a demonstration was in the offing.
We don't agree on this, obviously, but aren't they actually adding to the 'situation' rather than 'diffusing' it? |
not suggesting it will help us win but I'm not sure what to say if you don't think a demonstration is in the offing.
Just look on social media, they are being bombarded with demands to sack everyone and for the owners to go, if we lose next Saturday at home I'd be amazed if some people don't demonstrate I don't think they know what they want which is a bit scary but it's certainly coming |  | | |
| Potential LSA Protest Blackburn game on 10:15 - Feb 18 with 1901 views | Esox_Lucius |
| Potential LSA Protest Blackburn game on 16:16 - Feb 17 by Benny_the_Ball |
If they are dipping into their personal wealth to keep the club afloat then that's a further indictment on their ability to run a successful, self-sustaining football club. It's on them to put mechanisms in place that enable the club to thrive and create financial headroom. The facts don't lie. In 2011 they acquired a reasonably stable club in the Premier League. 12 years on we're still going backwards. This simply can't continue. |
Have a look at the accounts of the other Championship club and show me where they have a sustainable operation. Very, very few have and some of that is parachute money. Nearly all the clubs run at a loss but within the permitted £39m over 3 years constraint. |  |
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| Potential LSA Protest Blackburn game on 12:57 - Feb 18 with 1775 views | PunteR |
If we drop to L1 we are fked anyway. If fans want to protest then thats absolutely what they should do, before it's too late to do anything. We are getting to a point where there isn't much more to lose. Pride, self respect and love of our football club should still be intact and that doesn't cost anything. This £1.8 mill p/m they keep dangling in front of us shouldn't be our main excuse to just sit on our hands and let them roll us over.
This current shit show isn't even a new thing . This mismanagement from our owners has been going on for years. When is it the right time for fans to kick off.? |  |
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| Potential LSA Protest Blackburn game on 13:04 - Feb 18 with 1759 views | Wegerles_Stairs |
| Potential LSA Protest Blackburn game on 20:29 - Feb 17 by QPR_Jim |
Briatore was pre FFP so could sack managers repeatedly until hitting a winner (Warnock).
Our current owners are putting in as much money as possible, if the people within the club can't get the same results as Barnsley, Brentford, Huddersfield and Luton then you have to look within the club not the owners. |
They appoint them. The problem is the lack of hands-on leadership - our chairman says nothing, our DoF was appointed to appease the supporters. Brentford are where they are because the owner has a vision and appoints the right people to deliver it. We have players slagging off the manager in public when they've won 1 in 17. | | | |
| Potential LSA Protest Blackburn game on 15:26 - Feb 18 with 1642 views | Benny_the_Ball |
| Potential LSA Protest Blackburn game on 16:44 - Feb 17 by Blue_Castello |
Seriously I would have thought that the multitude of posts and information already posted would show that our club does not generate anywhere near enough money from our ticket sales, merchandise and anything else the club can sell. They have put together deals with third party suppliers wherever possible but the attraction of a team in the Championship does not generate as much money as the Premiership obviously.
We have a much loved antiquated stadium that doesn't help generate anywhere near enough revenue. We still have a £20 million plus wage bill which is hard to cut back any further unless we accept that we pay wages that will not attract players and will inevitably lead to our relegation.
We just go over old ground time and again, they inherited a club with Premiership money and we all accept that mistakes were made and money was wasted, but that was 8 years ago now.
I guess it is an indictment of the way they run the club but it's also very similar to a lot of our opposition only they have bigger fanbases, bigger stadiums, bigger crowds and therefore increased revenue. |
Again, that's on the owners. It's their job to find ways to generate the revenue required to compete and thrive. Other clubs who operate in the same environment with the same constraints manage it. Luton and Milwall aren't bigger clubs than QPR but they're flying this season. Neither were Brentford until Benham came in and completely revolutionised the way in which the club operates, all achieved within a smaller timeframe than our owners have been in situ. | | | |
| Potential LSA Protest Blackburn game on 15:27 - Feb 18 with 1641 views | Benny_the_Ball |
| Potential LSA Protest Blackburn game on 15:31 - Feb 17 by Rangersw12 |
The whole attitude from the DOF to the CEO is we cant do anything because of FFP when its proven to be nonsense other clubs with lower budgets are doing better than us
The club needs to better in every aspect from the maintenance of the ground to recruitment so "brains" do matter
This throwing our hands up woe us bollocks is a massive part of the problem |
Exactly but we have folk on here who are equally as defeatist and are giving the owners free rein to continue with the same laissez-faire attitude. | | | |
| Potential LSA Protest Blackburn game on 15:34 - Feb 18 with 1634 views | Benny_the_Ball |
| Potential LSA Protest Blackburn game on 16:24 - Feb 17 by stantheman10 |
They are not the custodians they are the owners. If you want custodians then there needs to be a supporters buy out of the club which I can't see coming so until that time they are the owners who can do as they please the same as a multitude of owners of other clubs have done |
They are custodians of our club. Owners, managers and players come and go. Loyal fans remain through thick and thin. In any case, throwing your hands in the air and accepting that the owners "can do as they please" is part of the problem. There's no harm in the LSA asking questions provided it's done in a pragmatic, strategic way. | | | |
| Potential LSA Protest Blackburn game on 15:37 - Feb 18 with 1622 views | R_from_afar |
| Potential LSA Protest Blackburn game on 15:26 - Feb 18 by Benny_the_Ball |
Again, that's on the owners. It's their job to find ways to generate the revenue required to compete and thrive. Other clubs who operate in the same environment with the same constraints manage it. Luton and Milwall aren't bigger clubs than QPR but they're flying this season. Neither were Brentford until Benham came in and completely revolutionised the way in which the club operates, all achieved within a smaller timeframe than our owners have been in situ. |
They’re *currently* flying. We were flying in October.
There was a season recently when Reading were flying at one point, with people on here asking why we had not shown their vision and brought in a foreign manager. By the end of the season, their form had dropped off to such an extent that the manager was volunteering to leave.
We are rank at the moment, there’s no hiding from that, but nothing is decided in February. |  |
| "Things had started becoming increasingly desperate at Loftus Road but QPR have been handed a massive lifeline and the place has absolutely erupted. it's carnage. It's bedlam. It's 1-1." |
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| Potential LSA Protest Blackburn game on 15:38 - Feb 18 with 1616 views | Benny_the_Ball |
| Potential LSA Protest Blackburn game on 16:52 - Feb 17 by Northernr |
Don't disagree with you mate, I think I was referring more to the club now being besieged across social media with "Les, Lee, Tony, Amit OUT" every time they post, say or do anything. That's not seeking answers or improvement, that's demanding they leave, which is where my point comes in. Leave without a buyer, we're fcked. And who's gonna buy it? |
Agree that doesn't help but social media is a cesspit of fools and shouldn't be used as a barometer for sentiment. If the LSA's intention is to hound the owners out, then I'm against the protest. If, however, their intention is to hold constructive dialogue with a view to improving the club then I see no harm in it. | | | |
| Potential LSA Protest Blackburn game on 15:46 - Feb 18 with 1597 views | Benny_the_Ball |
| Potential LSA Protest Blackburn game on 10:15 - Feb 18 by Esox_Lucius |
Have a look at the accounts of the other Championship club and show me where they have a sustainable operation. Very, very few have and some of that is parachute money. Nearly all the clubs run at a loss but within the permitted £39m over 3 years constraint. |
Sustainable within FFP terms is not about making a profit as it allows a club to make a £39m loss over a 3 year rolling period. As a result, the initial aim should be to generate enough revenue in order to minimise losses and create sufficient headroom to improve the first team. The majority of clubs in the division do not have parachute payments so they're finding other ways to create this headroom. As I stated in my longer submission, there are some clear and obvious mistakes being made which, if corrected, will help improve the situation. | | | |
| Potential LSA Protest Blackburn game on 17:02 - Feb 18 with 1528 views | connell10 |
So about this protest ? |  |
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