| The Commonwealth 11:44 - Sep 10 with 2737 views | Catullus |
Well Charles the Third is here, the official proclamation is made but what does this mean for the Commonwealth.
The Queen was genuinely loved by most of the Commowealth, she was the glue that held it together, mostly. Will the King have the same hold? |  |
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| The Commonwealth on 11:53 - Sep 10 with 2723 views | Dr_Winston |
I suspect that eventually most countries will drop Charles/William as head of state but remain within the Commonwealth.
It is fairly silly in this day and age for an elderly British bloke to be the official ruler of somewhere like Canada, as preferable as that might be to Trudeau. |  |
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| The Commonwealth on 11:56 - Sep 10 with 2712 views | Sirjohnalot |
| The Commonwealth on 11:53 - Sep 10 by Dr_Winston |
I suspect that eventually most countries will drop Charles/William as head of state but remain within the Commonwealth.
It is fairly silly in this day and age for an elderly British bloke to be the official ruler of somewhere like Canada, as preferable as that might be to Trudeau. |
Think you’re probably right.
Personally I love all the history, dating back centuries, I can’t imagine the Monarchy ever being abolished in this country, and hearing GSTK played solemnly, is actually quite stirring |  | | |
| The Commonwealth on 12:01 - Sep 10 with 2704 views | Dr_Winston |
| The Commonwealth on 11:56 - Sep 10 by Sirjohnalot |
Think you’re probably right.
Personally I love all the history, dating back centuries, I can’t imagine the Monarchy ever being abolished in this country, and hearing GSTK played solemnly, is actually quite stirring |
I think we're well on the way to a slimmed down, Scandinavian style version.
I'm not really hugely bothered either way. My natural instincts tend Republican, but some of the frothing vitriol coming from the extremist end of that leaves me cold. The cost of the civil list isn't all that much and is mostly (or maybe even totally) recouped from Crown Estate income anyway.
They do need to change the anthem though. | |
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| The Commonwealth on 12:04 - Sep 10 with 2696 views | Catullus |
| The Commonwealth on 11:56 - Sep 10 by Sirjohnalot |
Think you’re probably right.
Personally I love all the history, dating back centuries, I can’t imagine the Monarchy ever being abolished in this country, and hearing GSTK played solemnly, is actually quite stirring |
I don't find GSTK stirring in the slightest sorry, it seems a bit of a dirge to me. Mae hen Wlad, La Marseillaise, they are uplifting and stirring but GSTK is slow and a bit tedious.
I think they'll drop the King as head of state but stay in the Commonwelath too. Only because there seem to be benefits from membership though. | |
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| The Commonwealth on 12:12 - Sep 10 with 2685 views | Sirjohnalot |
| The Commonwealth on 12:04 - Sep 10 by Catullus |
I don't find GSTK stirring in the slightest sorry, it seems a bit of a dirge to me. Mae hen Wlad, La Marseillaise, they are uplifting and stirring but GSTK is slow and a bit tedious.
I think they'll drop the King as head of state but stay in the Commonwelath too. Only because there seem to be benefits from membership though. |
No comparison, SA, Russian, Scots, Italian. Normally I’d agree, but hearing it today was beautiful | | | |
| The Commonwealth on 12:48 - Sep 10 with 2660 views | Kilkennyjack |
| The Commonwealth on 11:56 - Sep 10 by Sirjohnalot |
Think you’re probably right.
Personally I love all the history, dating back centuries, I can’t imagine the Monarchy ever being abolished in this country, and hearing GSTK played solemnly, is actually quite stirring |
GSTQ is a dirge.
Dreadful in every respect. |  |
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| The Commonwealth on 13:02 - Sep 10 with 2657 views | felixstowe_jack |
| The Commonwealth on 12:48 - Sep 10 by Kilkennyjack |
GSTQ is a dirge.
Dreadful in every respect. |
Did you mean GSTK.
ONLY DREADFUL IN YOUR BIGOTED VIEW. IT IS STILL THE ANTHEM OF YOUR NATION THE UNITED KINGDOM OF GREAT BRITAIN AND NORTHERN IRELAND. | |
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| The Commonwealth on 13:04 - Sep 10 with 2651 views | Dr_Winston |
| The Commonwealth on 13:02 - Sep 10 by felixstowe_jack |
Did you mean GSTK.
ONLY DREADFUL IN YOUR BIGOTED VIEW. IT IS STILL THE ANTHEM OF YOUR NATION THE UNITED KINGDOM OF GREAT BRITAIN AND NORTHERN IRELAND. |
I don't believe you have to be a Welsh Nationalist to think that GSTK is a tune so stupefyingly boring that even Leonard Cohen would have thought twice about releasing it. | |
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| The Commonwealth on 13:16 - Sep 10 with 2630 views | trampie |
GSTK/GSTQ is a terrible national anthem, nothing to do with whether it represents something good or bad it's just a terrible anthem, the lyrics for one are an embarrassment in this modern day and age. |  |
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| The Commonwealth on 14:22 - Sep 10 with 2595 views | felixstowe_jack |
| The Commonwealth on 13:16 - Sep 10 by trampie |
GSTK/GSTQ is a terrible national anthem, nothing to do with whether it represents something good or bad it's just a terrible anthem, the lyrics for one are an embarrassment in this modern day and age. |
Have you read the English words to the Welsh National anthem they are pretty embarrassing in a modern era as well.
It is pretty much the same with most National anthems.
90% of the Welsh, me including have no idea what they are singing or even how to pronunce them either.
We just have to accept we will be hearing the UK national anthem a lot over the next couple of weeks. | |
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| The Commonwealth on 14:41 - Sep 10 with 2586 views | Sirjohnalot |
| The Commonwealth on 14:22 - Sep 10 by felixstowe_jack |
Have you read the English words to the Welsh National anthem they are pretty embarrassing in a modern era as well.
It is pretty much the same with most National anthems.
90% of the Welsh, me including have no idea what they are singing or even how to pronunce them either.
We just have to accept we will be hearing the UK national anthem a lot over the next couple of weeks. |
They’re pretty much all various versions of ‘come and have a go if you think you’re hard enough..you’re going home in (our National ) ambulance | | | |
| The Commonwealth on 15:02 - Sep 10 with 2558 views | Flashberryjack |
| The Commonwealth on 14:41 - Sep 10 by Sirjohnalot |
They’re pretty much all various versions of ‘come and have a go if you think you’re hard enough..you’re going home in (our National ) ambulance |
"you’re going home in (our National ) ambulance"
I think that's a bit outdated, it should be :
"you might be going home in an ambulance, if we can get one" |  |
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| The Commonwealth on 15:12 - Sep 10 with 2554 views | Sirjohnalot |
| The Commonwealth on 15:02 - Sep 10 by Flashberryjack |
"you’re going home in (our National ) ambulance"
I think that's a bit outdated, it should be :
"you might be going home in an ambulance, if we can get one" |
Always thought it should be ‘going to hospital’ not home | | | |
| The Commonwealth on 16:46 - Sep 10 with 2513 views | britferry |
2 new countries, Gabon & Togo, both old French colonies, recently joined the commonwealth, so that is going from strength to strength.
I do think some of the 15 countries who have our monarch as their head, will now think about becoming a republic, as Barbados did recently. | |
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| The Commonwealth on 18:33 - Sep 10 with 2480 views | Catullus |
| The Commonwealth on 14:22 - Sep 10 by felixstowe_jack |
Have you read the English words to the Welsh National anthem they are pretty embarrassing in a modern era as well.
It is pretty much the same with most National anthems.
90% of the Welsh, me including have no idea what they are singing or even how to pronunce them either.
We just have to accept we will be hearing the UK national anthem a lot over the next couple of weeks. |
It's definitely much better in Welsh because nobody understands anything but it sounds good,
1. This land of my fathers is dear to me
Land of poets and singers, and people of stature
Her brave warriors, fine patriots
Shed their blood for freedom
Chorus:
Land! Land! I am true to my land!
As long as the sea serves as a wall
For this pure, dear land
May the language endure for ever.
2. Old land of the mountains, paradise of the poets,
Every valley, every cliff a beauty guards;
Through love of my country, enchanting voices will be
Her streams and rivers to me.
3. Though the enemy have trampled my country underfoot,
The old language of the Welsh knows no retreat,
The spirit is not hindered by the treacherous hand
Nor silenced the sweet harp of my land.
Written in 1856. | |
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| The Commonwealth on 09:19 - Sep 11 with 2391 views | Kilkennyjack |
| The Commonwealth on 14:22 - Sep 10 by felixstowe_jack |
Have you read the English words to the Welsh National anthem they are pretty embarrassing in a modern era as well.
It is pretty much the same with most National anthems.
90% of the Welsh, me including have no idea what they are singing or even how to pronunce them either.
We just have to accept we will be hearing the UK national anthem a lot over the next couple of weeks. |
This is not true.
Go attend any Cymru game.
Its not even logical as about 20% of children in wales go to welsh medium education.
Plus all the other welsh speakers who go to english language first schools.
Unless its 1973 again, you are wrong.
Take the Cymru team then Ben, Joey, Rambo, Rubin, and Wayne Hennessey all speak Welsh, so hardly likely that 90% of the crowd are the opposite. Its just total nonsence. | |
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| The Commonwealth on 09:33 - Sep 11 with 2380 views | onehunglow |
| The Commonwealth on 09:19 - Sep 11 by Kilkennyjack |
This is not true.
Go attend any Cymru game.
Its not even logical as about 20% of children in wales go to welsh medium education.
Plus all the other welsh speakers who go to english language first schools.
Unless its 1973 again, you are wrong.
Take the Cymru team then Ben, Joey, Rambo, Rubin, and Wayne Hennessey all speak Welsh, so hardly likely that 90% of the crowd are the opposite. Its just total nonsence. |
Our players.ALL of them play in the English pyramid .
I reckon few would want the Swans to leave the pyramid just so 20% of fans could speak to fans of Bala Town in Welsh.
Without doubt the language THE most divisive issue in Wales.It underpins everything ;it is omnipotent but to many irrelevant. It is defended with fanaticism on here and that is a fact.
Anthems... worst dirges....as follows
Scotland
Ireland (the Rebel one)
Netherlands
Austria
Dogs Breakfast...
Italy.A musical mess
Most tuneful
La Marseillaise ,stands alone | |
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| The Commonwealth on 09:57 - Sep 11 with 2367 views | lifelong |
| The Commonwealth on 09:33 - Sep 11 by onehunglow |
Our players.ALL of them play in the English pyramid .
I reckon few would want the Swans to leave the pyramid just so 20% of fans could speak to fans of Bala Town in Welsh.
Without doubt the language THE most divisive issue in Wales.It underpins everything ;it is omnipotent but to many irrelevant. It is defended with fanaticism on here and that is a fact.
Anthems... worst dirges....as follows
Scotland
Ireland (the Rebel one)
Netherlands
Austria
Dogs Breakfast...
Italy.A musical mess
Most tuneful
La Marseillaise ,stands alone |
Another insult from you towards Wales and the Welsh language, sad.
Should the English pyramid only be available to English players and managers? |  | | |
| The Commonwealth on 10:04 - Sep 11 with 2357 views | onehunglow |
I forget to add the South Africa one.
It might have the main languages but it's a mess musically.
Have to say the USA is a behemoth and very hard ,almost impossible for an untrained voice to sing. | |
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| The Commonwealth on 14:34 - Sep 11 with 2308 views | Catullus |
| The Commonwealth on 09:57 - Sep 11 by lifelong |
Another insult from you towards Wales and the Welsh language, sad.
Should the English pyramid only be available to English players and managers? |
I don't see much of an insult to be honest. For balance, how many of our fans want us to play in the LoW?
For more balance, look at the arguments on here about the Welsh language, divisive...definitely. | |
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| The Commonwealth on 16:14 - Sep 11 with 2286 views | lifelong |
| The Commonwealth on 14:34 - Sep 11 by Catullus |
I don't see much of an insult to be honest. For balance, how many of our fans want us to play in the LoW?
For more balance, look at the arguments on here about the Welsh language, divisive...definitely. |
Everything he says about Wales and the Welsh language is insulting to those of us who love our country. He was booted out of Swansea and has held a grudge ever since. | | | |
| The Commonwealth on 16:21 - Sep 11 with 2274 views | onehunglow |
| The Commonwealth on 14:34 - Sep 11 by Catullus |
I don't see much of an insult to be honest. For balance, how many of our fans want us to play in the LoW?
For more balance, look at the arguments on here about the Welsh language, divisive...definitely. |
It’s really simple
I will repeat
We have welsh language zealots who prefer to talk welsh. Fine.
Don’t expect the majority to discourse in English when they won’t speak Welsh nor want to.
Fact.
Welsh doesn’t need lifelong nor anyone else bleeding for it .
As I say, don’t be a hypocrite and slag. Off English and England when we play ,at their discretion,in the Zenglish leagues
We do that as LOW is not really of any discernible standard .
It’s the case going to Bala,Portmadoc,Carmarthen would see Welsh being used to describe the game ,however in flint,Connah s Quay and Flint,that wouldn’t be welcomed.
Proof of welsh insecurity is the posts we get regarding the language . It seems the devil himself would be seen as a good guy if he spoke Welsh
The most divisive aspect of Wales. It’s not a matter to discuss ,clearly | |
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| The Commonwealth on 16:24 - Sep 11 with 2270 views | lifelong |
| The Commonwealth on 16:21 - Sep 11 by onehunglow |
It’s really simple
I will repeat
We have welsh language zealots who prefer to talk welsh. Fine.
Don’t expect the majority to discourse in English when they won’t speak Welsh nor want to.
Fact.
Welsh doesn’t need lifelong nor anyone else bleeding for it .
As I say, don’t be a hypocrite and slag. Off English and England when we play ,at their discretion,in the Zenglish leagues
We do that as LOW is not really of any discernible standard .
It’s the case going to Bala,Portmadoc,Carmarthen would see Welsh being used to describe the game ,however in flint,Connah s Quay and Flint,that wouldn’t be welcomed.
Proof of welsh insecurity is the posts we get regarding the language . It seems the devil himself would be seen as a good guy if he spoke Welsh
The most divisive aspect of Wales. It’s not a matter to discuss ,clearly |
The Welsh language is still alive and well despite English teachers years ago beating children to stop them speaking it. | | | |
| The Commonwealth on 16:25 - Sep 11 with 2262 views | Catullus |
| The Commonwealth on 16:14 - Sep 11 by lifelong |
Everything he says about Wales and the Welsh language is insulting to those of us who love our country. He was booted out of Swansea and has held a grudge ever since. |
None of us can help nor change where we are born but ALL of us are born on planet Earth.
Love of country, patriotism if you will, is a massive cause of arguments. We'd all be better of just being earthlings and countries not existing. | |
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| The Commonwealth on 16:38 - Sep 11 with 2248 views | onehunglow |
| The Commonwealth on 16:25 - Sep 11 by Catullus |
None of us can help nor change where we are born but ALL of us are born on planet Earth.
Love of country, patriotism if you will, is a massive cause of arguments. We'd all be better of just being earthlings and countries not existing. |
Most are proud of their place of birth.Not all but most.
It is what we do in life that we should be proud about not what bluddy language we speak.
I see Afrikaners on a rugby site posting unremittingly sickeningly lachrymose drivel regarding their “ culture” when it’s a language not a culture .
They want an Afrikaner speaking only university in one city there
They are the proudest people I see out there and it makes them often look dirty. | |
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