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MORTON HOUSE / Optimus Build Ltd v. Matthew Southall & Another 08:21 - Oct 3 with 24606 viewsRAFCBLUE

judd put me onto the case of Optimus Build Limited vs Matthew Southall which is interesting given that it was claimed in the MEN that Matthew Southall had an exclusive deal with Morton House

Southall's builder took him to court over a mass of unpaid monies that, based on records in the public domain, are still outstanding.

https://www.casemine.com/judgement/uk/5fd866ca2c94e03ac6098c80

Interestingly, Southall's tactics throughout appear to have been to threaten and bully this poor builder into giving in, claiming that the builder has committed fraudulent representation.

You can read it for yourself but midway thorough the judge says:

"It was apparent from Mr Southall's evidence generally that he could be capable of expressing himself forcefully when crossed or contradicted and I accept her account that he did so on that occassion.

As he said at one point in cross-examination "you only get one chance with me""


You've got to feel sorry for the builder who comes across as an honest bloke doing the best for his client but that client didn't actually want to pay him in full for the work done.

George Bernard Shaw had it right: "He who can does; he who cannot, teaches." https://www.visittheusa.co.uk/
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MORTON HOUSE / Optimus Build Ltd v. Matthew Southall & Another on 11:54 - Oct 3 with 13323 viewsjudd

Clause 26 points out that a previous contractor had walked off the job as a result of a payment dispute.

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MORTON HOUSE / Optimus Build Ltd v. Matthew Southall & Another on 12:52 - Oct 3 with 13230 viewsRAFCBLUE

MORTON HOUSE / Optimus Build Ltd v. Matthew Southall & Another on 11:54 - Oct 3 by judd

Clause 26 points out that a previous contractor had walked off the job as a result of a payment dispute.


I bet that builder is going to be live in his pursuit of Southall now news is out he has money to apparently spend threatening going to court.

George Bernard Shaw had it right: "He who can does; he who cannot, teaches." https://www.visittheusa.co.uk/
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MORTON HOUSE / Optimus Build Ltd v. Matthew Southall & Another on 13:03 - Oct 3 with 13183 viewsD_Alien

MORTON HOUSE / Optimus Build Ltd v. Matthew Southall & Another on 12:52 - Oct 3 by RAFCBLUE

I bet that builder is going to be live in his pursuit of Southall now news is out he has money to apparently spend threatening going to court.


Or buy 25% of a football club at apparently 3 times the going rate for shares

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MORTON HOUSE / Optimus Build Ltd v. Matthew Southall & Another on 14:34 - Oct 3 with 13061 views49thseason

MORTON HOUSE / Optimus Build Ltd v. Matthew Southall & Another on 12:52 - Oct 3 by RAFCBLUE

I bet that builder is going to be live in his pursuit of Southall now news is out he has money to apparently spend threatening going to court.


Has anyone been in touch with them? Their phones might be busy on Monday morning!
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MORTON HOUSE / Optimus Build Ltd v. Matthew Southall & Another on 14:51 - Oct 3 with 13035 viewsjudd

MORTON HOUSE / Optimus Build Ltd v. Matthew Southall & Another on 14:34 - Oct 3 by 49thseason

Has anyone been in touch with them? Their phones might be busy on Monday morning!


I am almost certain that this company is fully up to speed with Southalls intentions with regards RAFC.

You have an email on another matter, 49thseason

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MORTON HOUSE / Optimus Build Ltd v. Matthew Southall & Another on 15:03 - Oct 3 with 13014 viewsRAFCBLUE

MORTON HOUSE / Optimus Build Ltd v. Matthew Southall & Another on 14:51 - Oct 3 by judd

I am almost certain that this company is fully up to speed with Southalls intentions with regards RAFC.

You have an email on another matter, 49thseason


Matt Southall: "I'm sorry I still can't pay what I owe you"

Optimus: "But your buying a 25% stake in a football club from Dubai with what exactly?"

George Bernard Shaw had it right: "He who can does; he who cannot, teaches." https://www.visittheusa.co.uk/
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MORTON HOUSE / Optimus Build Ltd v. Matthew Southall & Another on 15:08 - Oct 3 with 12998 viewsjudd

In clause 1 it states the following:

“There had also been a pleaded issue as to whether or not the second defendant, Ms McManus, was a party to the contract but, sensibly given the evidence, that defence was not pursued at trial.”

Could it be that ownership of the house was transferred by Southall to his partner in 2019 and the judge has seen right through that tactic?

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MORTON HOUSE / Optimus Build Ltd v. Matthew Southall & Another on 15:10 - Oct 3 with 12983 viewsUpTheDaleNotForSale

MORTON HOUSE / Optimus Build Ltd v. Matthew Southall & Another on 15:08 - Oct 3 by judd

In clause 1 it states the following:

“There had also been a pleaded issue as to whether or not the second defendant, Ms McManus, was a party to the contract but, sensibly given the evidence, that defence was not pursued at trial.”

Could it be that ownership of the house was transferred by Southall to his partner in 2019 and the judge has seen right through that tactic?


not just the house, allegedly.

info online suggests ALL of Southall's assets were transferred to a Jade Katy McManus around this time.

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MORTON HOUSE / Optimus Build Ltd v. Matthew Southall & Another on 15:15 - Oct 3 with 12949 viewsUpTheDaleNotForSale

interestingly a quick google of 'Jade Katy McManus' links you straight to various companies that she is involved with.

Love2BeHome Limited looks handy if you need any decorating services, although she may be too busy organising overdue accounts.

https://find-and-update.company-information.service.gov.uk/officers/Uh4QXebqKlRB

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MORTON HOUSE / Optimus Build Ltd v. Matthew Southall & Another on 21:31 - Oct 3 with 12651 viewsEllDale

Without getting too personal, does anyone know if Matty Lund’s girlfriend is called McManus?
Just asking.
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MORTON HOUSE / Optimus Build Ltd v. Matthew Southall & Another on 21:11 - Dec 5 with 11783 viewsRAFCBLUE



This is a great picture of the matchball sponsor today and I wonder what, despite an FA Cup defeat makes the Chairman smile so?

Could it be that Optimus Build Limited have a key of forever sinking Matthew Southall?

For those that need a recap:
https://www.bailii.org/ew/cases/EWHC/TCC/2020/3389.html

1. Southall owes his builder a lot of money for some building work on his house in Worsley.
2. The builder took him to court for that money and WON.
3. The builder has a charge on his home address until Southall pays his debt.
4. Southall hasn't paid up (YET!)

I'm no expert but I think that the EFL have rules on people that can't pay their bills.

Southall has - according to records in the public domain - already bought 25% of the club.
https://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/news/greater-manchester-news/ex-charlton

Mr Southall is acquiring his shares from Andy Curran and Darrel Rose's Morton House MGT group, whose bid to take over the club collapsed several weeks ago.

The M.E.N. understands that Mr Southall was approached by an intermediary on behalf of Morton House, who were looking to off-load the 42 per cent of shares in Rochdale acquired when the group was attempting to take control of the Crown Oil Arena club.


I sincerely hope that Curran / Rose / Morton House have seen some actual cash for that 25% and not on the never-never!

George Bernard Shaw had it right: "He who can does; he who cannot, teaches." https://www.visittheusa.co.uk/
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MORTON HOUSE / Optimus Build Ltd v. Matthew Southall & Another on 22:49 - Dec 5 with 11613 viewsTyroneShoelaces

MORTON HOUSE / Optimus Build Ltd v. Matthew Southall & Another on 21:11 - Dec 5 by RAFCBLUE



This is a great picture of the matchball sponsor today and I wonder what, despite an FA Cup defeat makes the Chairman smile so?

Could it be that Optimus Build Limited have a key of forever sinking Matthew Southall?

For those that need a recap:
https://www.bailii.org/ew/cases/EWHC/TCC/2020/3389.html

1. Southall owes his builder a lot of money for some building work on his house in Worsley.
2. The builder took him to court for that money and WON.
3. The builder has a charge on his home address until Southall pays his debt.
4. Southall hasn't paid up (YET!)

I'm no expert but I think that the EFL have rules on people that can't pay their bills.

Southall has - according to records in the public domain - already bought 25% of the club.
https://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/news/greater-manchester-news/ex-charlton

Mr Southall is acquiring his shares from Andy Curran and Darrel Rose's Morton House MGT group, whose bid to take over the club collapsed several weeks ago.

The M.E.N. understands that Mr Southall was approached by an intermediary on behalf of Morton House, who were looking to off-load the 42 per cent of shares in Rochdale acquired when the group was attempting to take control of the Crown Oil Arena club.


I sincerely hope that Curran / Rose / Morton House have seen some actual cash for that 25% and not on the never-never!


Met the family today who where very impressed by the club.
Saw one of the Directors give the little lad a Dale hat.
Think gestures like that stand us out from the crowd and hopefully
we have some new additions to our fan base
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MORTON HOUSE / Optimus Build Ltd v. Matthew Southall & Another on 07:42 - Dec 6 with 11403 viewsRAFCBLUE

MORTON HOUSE / Optimus Build Ltd v. Matthew Southall & Another on 22:49 - Dec 5 by TyroneShoelaces

Met the family today who where very impressed by the club.
Saw one of the Directors give the little lad a Dale hat.
Think gestures like that stand us out from the crowd and hopefully
we have some new additions to our fan base


That's very good to hear about the gesture to the young fan.

Do we think we should all club together and do the same for Matthew Southall?

The club shop will likely sell out in the run to Christmas as people sort out their Christmas presents. Southall's hairline has the look of a very worried man....

https://ibb.co/P4Sfxqy

George Bernard Shaw had it right: "He who can does; he who cannot, teaches." https://www.visittheusa.co.uk/
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MORTON HOUSE / Optimus Build Ltd v. Matthew Southall & Another on 10:05 - Dec 29 with 10748 viewsRAFCBLUE

MORTON HOUSE / Optimus Build Ltd v. Matthew Southall & Another on 21:11 - Dec 5 by RAFCBLUE



This is a great picture of the matchball sponsor today and I wonder what, despite an FA Cup defeat makes the Chairman smile so?

Could it be that Optimus Build Limited have a key of forever sinking Matthew Southall?

For those that need a recap:
https://www.bailii.org/ew/cases/EWHC/TCC/2020/3389.html

1. Southall owes his builder a lot of money for some building work on his house in Worsley.
2. The builder took him to court for that money and WON.
3. The builder has a charge on his home address until Southall pays his debt.
4. Southall hasn't paid up (YET!)

I'm no expert but I think that the EFL have rules on people that can't pay their bills.

Southall has - according to records in the public domain - already bought 25% of the club.
https://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/news/greater-manchester-news/ex-charlton

Mr Southall is acquiring his shares from Andy Curran and Darrel Rose's Morton House MGT group, whose bid to take over the club collapsed several weeks ago.

The M.E.N. understands that Mr Southall was approached by an intermediary on behalf of Morton House, who were looking to off-load the 42 per cent of shares in Rochdale acquired when the group was attempting to take control of the Crown Oil Arena club.


I sincerely hope that Curran / Rose / Morton House have seen some actual cash for that 25% and not on the never-never!


Still no word that the builder has been paid.


George Bernard Shaw had it right: "He who can does; he who cannot, teaches." https://www.visittheusa.co.uk/
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MORTON HOUSE / Optimus Build Ltd v. Matthew Southall & Another on 14:18 - Dec 29 with 10510 viewsupthedale

MORTON HOUSE / Optimus Build Ltd v. Matthew Southall & Another on 21:31 - Oct 3 by EllDale

Without getting too personal, does anyone know if Matty Lund’s girlfriend is called McManus?
Just asking.


No she's not (or at least that wasn't the family surname when I knew them).
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MORTON HOUSE / Optimus Build Ltd v. Matthew Southall & Another on 21:08 - Jan 10 with 9833 viewsRAFCBLUE

Can anyone recommend a good debt collector?

Wanted for a job in Worsley next week. Early morning start.

George Bernard Shaw had it right: "He who can does; he who cannot, teaches." https://www.visittheusa.co.uk/
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MORTON HOUSE / Optimus Build Ltd v. Matthew Southall & Another on 21:19 - Jan 10 with 9757 viewsSuddenLad

MORTON HOUSE / Optimus Build Ltd v. Matthew Southall & Another on 21:08 - Jan 10 by RAFCBLUE

Can anyone recommend a good debt collector?

Wanted for a job in Worsley next week. Early morning start.


I hear HMRC are quite effective. I can recommend them.

“It is easier to fool people, than to convince them that they have been fooled”

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MORTON HOUSE / Optimus Build Ltd v. Matthew Southall & Another on 09:53 - Jan 12 with 9381 viewsRAFCBLUE

MORTON HOUSE / Optimus Build Ltd v. Matthew Southall & Another on 21:08 - Jan 10 by RAFCBLUE

Can anyone recommend a good debt collector?

Wanted for a job in Worsley next week. Early morning start.


Good morning for a bit of Billy Paul:


George Bernard Shaw had it right: "He who can does; he who cannot, teaches." https://www.visittheusa.co.uk/
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MORTON HOUSE / Optimus Build Ltd v. Matthew Southall & Another on 10:05 - Jan 12 with 9325 viewsDaleiLama

MORTON HOUSE / Optimus Build Ltd v. Matthew Southall & Another on 09:53 - Jan 12 by RAFCBLUE

Good morning for a bit of Billy Paul:




Up the Dale - NOT for sale!
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MORTON HOUSE / Optimus Build Ltd v. Matthew Southall & Another on 10:36 - Jan 12 with 9257 viewsSuddenLad

MORTON HOUSE / Optimus Build Ltd v. Matthew Southall & Another on 10:05 - Jan 12 by DaleiLama



"Won't you come in Bill Bailiff, won't you come in?"

“It is easier to fool people, than to convince them that they have been fooled”

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MORTON HOUSE / Optimus Build Ltd v. Matthew Southall & Another on 20:19 - Jan 12 with 8853 viewsRAFCBLUE

https://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/news/greater-manchester-news/ex-charlton

One thing that has struck me ever since Matt Southall's PR machine came out in the Manchester Evening News is how his "bid" might upset his lost court case and the charges that are on the house in Leigh Road in Worsley.

The land registry charge shows that 264 Leigh Road, Worsley owes money in order to:

* Together Finance Limited - a mortgage Company
* Academy Leasing Limited - a finance provider for vehicles
* Optimus Build - a provider of building services

Take the value of the house and deduct what is owed to those three parties and Jade McManus and Matthew Southall get to keep what is left.

https://www.rightmove.co.uk/house-prices/m28-1lf.html

Rightmove suggests the house is worth around £875,000. The land registry deed suggests £900,000.

Now think back to the Morton House deal.

Morton House stated in the Manchester Evening News via the Scouse Disaster Alexander Jarvis that "over £1 million to date in consideration for shares, due diligence and legal costs."

https://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/news/greater-manchester-news/businessman

25% from Southall is a tactical threshold. One would assume that Morton House would try to keep the rest and the two would work together.

After all - Andrew Curran and Matthew Southall were seen by half the town of Rochdale declining a delicious chip barm from the Wilbutts Lane chippy in late April - Fat Pat is still fuming that one of the louts called her "greasy Fat Pat". Little did they know.

So where is Matthew Southall getting £1,000,000 from to give to Curran for the 25%? We assume:

(1) rightly that recently FA banned Andrew Curran isn't giving these shares away having put £1m into them
(2) Southall doesn't have any funds or else why WOULDN'T he pay off his leasing company and his builder?
(3) Southall finding a big wedge of cash to even think about buying 25% of Rochdale would need more money to inject and sell to us the dream of [bMatt Southall's Barmy army.

It makes no sense.

The team at Optimus Build even went as far as being matchball sponsor for the ITV/Plymouth game on 5th December - looking at this picture of the Chairman a good time was had by all - except poor Aaron Morley who had scored that day!



Maybe a matchball sponsorship was all it took to join up all the dots?

Because how can Southall say in the Manchester Evening News on 29th September 2021 that he is buying 25% of Rochdale, but not have £2.50 to pay his building firm?

When the building firm has a debt which is secured on the family home!

"He'd have got away with it too if Fat Pat hadn't sang like a canary about her spurned (but not greasy) chip barms."

George Bernard Shaw had it right: "He who can does; he who cannot, teaches." https://www.visittheusa.co.uk/
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MORTON HOUSE / Optimus Build Ltd v. Matthew Southall & Another on 09:58 - Jan 13 with 8528 viewsDorkingDale

MORTON HOUSE / Optimus Build Ltd v. Matthew Southall & Another on 20:19 - Jan 12 by RAFCBLUE

https://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/news/greater-manchester-news/ex-charlton

One thing that has struck me ever since Matt Southall's PR machine came out in the Manchester Evening News is how his "bid" might upset his lost court case and the charges that are on the house in Leigh Road in Worsley.

The land registry charge shows that 264 Leigh Road, Worsley owes money in order to:

* Together Finance Limited - a mortgage Company
* Academy Leasing Limited - a finance provider for vehicles
* Optimus Build - a provider of building services

Take the value of the house and deduct what is owed to those three parties and Jade McManus and Matthew Southall get to keep what is left.

https://www.rightmove.co.uk/house-prices/m28-1lf.html

Rightmove suggests the house is worth around £875,000. The land registry deed suggests £900,000.

Now think back to the Morton House deal.

Morton House stated in the Manchester Evening News via the Scouse Disaster Alexander Jarvis that "over £1 million to date in consideration for shares, due diligence and legal costs."

https://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/news/greater-manchester-news/businessman

25% from Southall is a tactical threshold. One would assume that Morton House would try to keep the rest and the two would work together.

After all - Andrew Curran and Matthew Southall were seen by half the town of Rochdale declining a delicious chip barm from the Wilbutts Lane chippy in late April - Fat Pat is still fuming that one of the louts called her "greasy Fat Pat". Little did they know.

So where is Matthew Southall getting £1,000,000 from to give to Curran for the 25%? We assume:

(1) rightly that recently FA banned Andrew Curran isn't giving these shares away having put £1m into them
(2) Southall doesn't have any funds or else why WOULDN'T he pay off his leasing company and his builder?
(3) Southall finding a big wedge of cash to even think about buying 25% of Rochdale would need more money to inject and sell to us the dream of [bMatt Southall's Barmy army.

It makes no sense.

The team at Optimus Build even went as far as being matchball sponsor for the ITV/Plymouth game on 5th December - looking at this picture of the Chairman a good time was had by all - except poor Aaron Morley who had scored that day!



Maybe a matchball sponsorship was all it took to join up all the dots?

Because how can Southall say in the Manchester Evening News on 29th September 2021 that he is buying 25% of Rochdale, but not have £2.50 to pay his building firm?

When the building firm has a debt which is secured on the family home!

"He'd have got away with it too if Fat Pat hadn't sang like a canary about her spurned (but not greasy) chip barms."


Just a small correction RAFCBlue - MH invested £1M+ for the original (now diluted) 43%, so the payment they would be looking for the (now diluted) 25% would be in the region of £600k, not £1M. Pretty irrelevant, I know, if the payment will not be forthcoming.....for whatever reason.
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MORTON HOUSE / Optimus Build Ltd v. Matthew Southall & Another on 11:00 - Jan 13 with 8370 viewswozzrafc

MORTON HOUSE / Optimus Build Ltd v. Matthew Southall & Another on 09:58 - Jan 13 by DorkingDale

Just a small correction RAFCBlue - MH invested £1M+ for the original (now diluted) 43%, so the payment they would be looking for the (now diluted) 25% would be in the region of £600k, not £1M. Pretty irrelevant, I know, if the payment will not be forthcoming.....for whatever reason.


Didn’t Matt southall agree to purchase 25% before they were diluted? Therefore he will still be buying the same number of shares, presumably at the price he agreed with Morton house, just now they only equate to approx 12.5%.

Do we know how much he paid for his shares from Morton House?
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MORTON HOUSE / Optimus Build Ltd v. Matthew Southall & Another on 11:23 - Jan 13 with 8300 viewsDorkingDale

MORTON HOUSE / Optimus Build Ltd v. Matthew Southall & Another on 11:00 - Jan 13 by wozzrafc

Didn’t Matt southall agree to purchase 25% before they were diluted? Therefore he will still be buying the same number of shares, presumably at the price he agreed with Morton house, just now they only equate to approx 12.5%.

Do we know how much he paid for his shares from Morton House?


He hasn't and can't pay for them because he's stony broke.
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MORTON HOUSE / Optimus Build Ltd v. Matthew Southall & Another on 14:41 - Jan 13 with 8047 viewsDale_4_Life

Matt Southall has gone as quiet as a church mouse.

Let's all hope he disappears completely his type just not welcome at a family club like Rochdale. Thank goodness our club has very determined individuals who will never let him or any of his cronies profiteer from our wonderful football club.
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