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John Toshack 21:36 - Sep 11 with 5653 viewsthornabyswan

Can anyone answer this one.

When Tosh took over as player manager was 28 or 29 I think.
Can't imagine a player leaving a top club to manage at that young age now.
How did this come about was he still in the Liverpool team when he left.
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John Toshack on 21:42 - Sep 11 with 3752 viewsglanmORJa_k

Tosh was all set to sign for Leicester but he failed a medical but a few months later he was allowed to join the Swans as player manager after watching them lose at Rochdale.
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John Toshack on 21:55 - Sep 11 with 3688 viewsraynor94

His knees were not up to the rigour of a 42 game division 1 season

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John Toshack on 22:06 - Sep 11 with 3657 viewsGaryjack

John Toshack on 21:55 - Sep 11 by raynor94

His knees were not up to the rigour of a 42 game division 1 season


Plus the fact that he turned down returning to Cardiff as a player.
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John Toshack on 22:08 - Sep 11 with 3643 viewsraynor94

John Toshack on 22:06 - Sep 11 by Garyjack

Plus the fact that he turned down returning to Cardiff as a player.


Forgot that one!

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John Toshack on 22:08 - Sep 11 with 3638 viewsDarran

John Toshack on 21:55 - Sep 11 by raynor94

His knees were not up to the rigour of a 42 game division 1 season


His shoulders were too wide to carry his knees.

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John Toshack on 22:09 - Sep 11 with 3632 viewsthornabyswan

John Toshack on 22:06 - Sep 11 by Garyjack

Plus the fact that he turned down returning to Cardiff as a player.


Should have mentioned that to Anus before he banned me

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John Toshack on 22:14 - Sep 11 with 3608 viewssherpajacob

Player managers were not that unusual at the time, and there was not the same "stigma" regarding playing outside the top division.

Also Tosh would have seen the young talent in the swans squad, Charles, Curtis, James in particular and realised he'd have top flight quality players in the 4th division and he was onto a winner.

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John Toshack on 22:18 - Sep 11 with 3577 viewsDarran

John Toshack on 22:14 - Sep 11 by sherpajacob

Player managers were not that unusual at the time, and there was not the same "stigma" regarding playing outside the top division.

Also Tosh would have seen the young talent in the swans squad, Charles, Curtis, James in particular and realised he'd have top flight quality players in the 4th division and he was onto a winner.


Most top players back in the day used to drop down the divisions top up their money because they couldn’t afford to retire.

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John Toshack on 22:21 - Sep 11 with 3559 viewsthornabyswan

John Toshack on 22:18 - Sep 11 by Darran

Most top players back in the day used to drop down the divisions top up their money because they couldn’t afford to retire.


28 though young but if his knees were knackered.
Played a few games for us though.

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John Toshack on 22:30 - Sep 11 with 3513 viewsGaryjack

John Toshack on 22:21 - Sep 11 by thornabyswan

28 though young but if his knees were knackered.
Played a few games for us though.


24 Goals in 63 games not bad for a cripple of a player/manager!
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John Toshack on 22:45 - Sep 11 with 3473 viewstheloneranger

Tosh was on the way to Anderlecht but he failed his medical. He then wanted to join Cardiff as a player coach but was knocked back by Cardiff.

When Malcolm Struel heard of this he contacted Tosh and the rest is history, and he became the youngest manager in the Football League at 28.

What attracted Tosh to the Swans were the amount of talented young players, but most of all was the gentleman's agreement he had with Struel, in that if he was successful down the Vetch and Liverpool came calling he would be allowed to leave, something which nearly happened in 1982.
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John Toshack on 22:49 - Sep 11 with 3463 viewsbuilthjack

John Toshack on 22:08 - Sep 11 by Darran

His shoulders were too wide to carry his knees.


But his knees are on his legs

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John Toshack on 23:08 - Sep 11 with 3414 viewstheloneranger

A feature documentary called "Tosh: A Swansea Football Fairytale" is in production.

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John Toshack on 23:16 - Sep 11 with 3394 viewsDarran

John Toshack on 22:49 - Sep 11 by builthjack

But his knees are on his legs


He did have a strange shape about him mind didn’t he wear short sleeve shirts because he couldn’t get into long sleeve ones?

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John Toshack on 23:19 - Sep 11 with 3389 viewstheloneranger

John Toshack on 23:16 - Sep 11 by Darran

He did have a strange shape about him mind didn’t he wear short sleeve shirts because he couldn’t get into long sleeve ones?


Coat Hanger Syndrome

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John Toshack on 23:26 - Sep 11 with 3373 viewsDarran

John Toshack on 23:19 - Sep 11 by theloneranger

Coat Hanger Syndrome


There was definitely a story about it back in the day. 😂

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John Toshack on 23:46 - Sep 11 with 3351 viewsWarwickHunt

John Toshack on 23:19 - Sep 11 by theloneranger

Coat Hanger Syndrome


Goal hanger syndrome. 😱
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John Toshack on 06:04 - Sep 12 with 3212 viewsbuilthjack

John Toshack on 23:16 - Sep 11 by Darran

He did have a strange shape about him mind didn’t he wear short sleeve shirts because he couldn’t get into long sleeve ones?


The Hulk

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John Toshack on 06:59 - Sep 12 with 3148 viewsAnotherJohn

My impression was that it was mainly the fitness issue. I don't know if the memory is fading, but as I recall Tosh couldn't generally manage 90 minutes and there were several games when he came on as a late substitute and scored crucial goals.
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John Toshack on 08:54 - Sep 12 with 3032 viewsepaul

John Toshack on 23:08 - Sep 11 by theloneranger

A feature documentary called "Tosh: A Swansea Football Fairytale" is in production.


Pete put up a great snippet last night (on fb and twitter) about the Chesterfield game, its about 3 and half minutes long


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John Toshack on 09:41 - Sep 12 with 2980 viewscontroversial_jack

John Toshack on 23:16 - Sep 11 by Darran

He did have a strange shape about him mind didn’t he wear short sleeve shirts because he couldn’t get into long sleeve ones?


Had a pic taken with him a few years ago, he's huge
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John Toshack on 09:48 - Sep 12 with 2972 viewsdickythorpe

In his autobiography it was a thigh injury that just wouldn't go away.
I enjoy listening to him.
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John Toshack on 09:51 - Sep 12 with 2964 viewstheloneranger

John Toshack on 09:41 - Sep 12 by controversial_jack

Had a pic taken with him a few years ago, he's huge


He played rugby as a youngster at fly half.

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John Toshack on 09:58 - Sep 12 with 2950 viewsswancity

John Toshack on 22:45 - Sep 11 by theloneranger

Tosh was on the way to Anderlecht but he failed his medical. He then wanted to join Cardiff as a player coach but was knocked back by Cardiff.

When Malcolm Struel heard of this he contacted Tosh and the rest is history, and he became the youngest manager in the Football League at 28.

What attracted Tosh to the Swans were the amount of talented young players, but most of all was the gentleman's agreement he had with Struel, in that if he was successful down the Vetch and Liverpool came calling he would be allowed to leave, something which nearly happened in 1982.
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Not sure about Anderlecht but he did fail a medical at Leicester City. Ongoing thigh and knee problems were preventing him from reaching required fitness levels at Liverpool who allowed him to leave on a free transfer

He was an outstanding target man, one of the best. His perfect hat trick for Wales whilst a Swan in a 3-0 win v Scotland showed just how effective he was even when only 70% fit.

Apparently he met Struel by chance. Incredible to think what he achieved as a 28 year old and new to management...

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John Toshack on 10:04 - Sep 12 with 2939 viewsDarran

John Toshack on 09:58 - Sep 12 by swancity

Not sure about Anderlecht but he did fail a medical at Leicester City. Ongoing thigh and knee problems were preventing him from reaching required fitness levels at Liverpool who allowed him to leave on a free transfer

He was an outstanding target man, one of the best. His perfect hat trick for Wales whilst a Swan in a 3-0 win v Scotland showed just how effective he was even when only 70% fit.

Apparently he met Struel by chance. Incredible to think what he achieved as a 28 year old and new to management...


I was at that Wales game at Onion Park.

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