| Match thread: Posh (H) 14:16 - Aug 11 with 13965 views | Shun |
TEAM NEWS | ðŸ—’ï¸ The Dale line-up...
1⃣ Josh Lillis
2⃣ Joe Rafferty
5⃣ Ryan Delaney
6ï¸âƒ£ Harrison McGahey
8ï¸âƒ£ MJ Williams
1⃣0⃣ Callum Camps
1⃣6ï¸âƒ£ Matty Done
1⃣7⃣ David Perkins
1⃣8ï¸âƒ£ Aaron Wilbraham
1⃣9ï¸âƒ£ Bradden Inman
4ï¸âƒ£0⃣ Ian Henderson
#RAFC
Same team as last week but Delaney instead of McNulty.
SUBS:
3⃣ Kgosi Ntlhe
4⃣ Jimmy McNulty
9⃣ Calvin Andrew
1⃣4⃣ Ollie Rathbone
2⃣2⃣ Brendan Moore
2⃣5⃣ Daniel Adshead
2⃣7⃣ Andy Cannon [Post edited 11 Aug 2018 14:17]
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| Match thread: Posh (H) on 18:15 - Aug 11 with 3495 views | mikehunt |
What is really frustrating is charging forward then we stop and pass back, losing all momentum.
Unless we can sustain a fluid attack, defences will always have time to regroup.
And, were the rest of the team not talking to Cannon or something? He showed some flair when he came on but, constantly stood in acres of space, nobody passed to him. Most odd. |  |
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| Match thread: Posh (H) on 18:15 - Aug 11 with 3495 views | regjenkins |
We had a lot of possestion today without doing anything with it. The play going forward was far too slow to be effective. Peterbourgh are a decent side, they will be hovering around the top 6 all season. They managed us out of contention in the second half, allowing us possesion until the final third and then closed us out. We were reduced to pot shots at best. Heres hoping that we are more effective against Fleetwood. |  |
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| Match thread: Posh (H) on 18:18 - Aug 11 with 3473 views | richfoad32 |
| Match thread: Posh (H) on 18:14 - Aug 11 by fitzochris |
Delaney made sense. McNulty is a weak link on the left of a back three and better in the centre. He isn’t going to play there while we have MJ Williams available, so his place on the bench was inevitable today. |
He played there last week and we won, albeit riding our luck at times. This week we change it and get hammered....maybe it would've been worse with Jimmy playing, who knows. |  | | |
| Match thread: Posh (H) on 18:26 - Aug 11 with 3413 views | fitzochris |
| Match thread: Posh (H) on 18:18 - Aug 11 by richfoad32 |
He played there last week and we won, albeit riding our luck at times. This week we change it and get hammered....maybe it would've been worse with Jimmy playing, who knows. |
If you watch the game back from last week, watch the space between him and Done and watch how Burton exploit it.
Today was nothing to do with McNulty’s absence. |  |
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| Match thread: Posh (H) on 18:28 - Aug 11 with 3391 views | DareToCalvin |
No need to panic after today; nothing more than a bad day at the office for me. Beaten by an excellent team who let us have the ball and then were devastating on the counter. Defensively we were poor but teams have poor defensive displays all the time. I also don't think Wilbraham was that poor; he was immediately swamped every time he received the ball so couldn't make any real impact; obviously he knows he should score that chance today.
Just a minor setback, we'll be fine in my opinion. |  | | |
| Match thread: Posh (H) on 18:36 - Aug 11 with 3324 views | CanaDale |
First time seeing MJ Williams, liked the look of him, looks very composed on the ball (aside from the third goal) I feel he'd be very useful further the pitch. |  | | |
| Match thread: Posh (H) on 18:47 - Aug 11 with 3274 views | dawlishdale |
Here's my thoughts for what they are worth...
We played some nice pretty passing football in the first quarter of an hour, and looked threatening, but didn't have enough efforts on goal. Yes we got a penalty and scored, but I can't remember their keeper making too many saves.
The 5 at the back relies on the two wing backs being able and willing to attack. Matty Done had a shocker of a game, and was like a frightened kid when faced with the option of going forward, which all too often resulted in the ball either going sideways, backwards or being passed to a Posh player. He really should have scored when left unmarked just before they made it 3-1. If that goes in... different game.
Although Rafferty started well, he cost us their first goal when he fell over looking for a foul that never was, resulting in them having an unchallenged cross and a free header from inside the six yard box.
The second goal also came down Raff's side and was a needless free kick given that was put to the far post, where they had an unchallenged headed back across goal and then another unchallenged header past Lillis. Awful defending from start to finish for that one.
Third goal: Yet another free kick given away. This time, Lillis is too far over and flaps at the ball and they get a tap in.
Game almost over.
Second half... we had lots of the ball, but it was Posh who looked more likely to score, . MJ Williams getting all tangled up on half way gifted them their fourth in stoppage time.
Lessons to be learned?
Posh are a good team and caused us huge problems. They easily coped with our slow build up play. Their pace and willingness to shoot was good to watch.
Our Wing backs need to do an awful lot better both defensively and offensively to make 5 at the back effective.
Camps will play some fabulous passes but also play some hopeless ones.
Perkins has still got what it takes to run the midfield against many teams at this level, but needs to take more care with passes.
In Wilbraham and Andrew, we have two quite similar players. Both work hard, but neither are prolific. We must play Henderson alongside or just behind one or other of them rather than wasting him in midfield.
Inman is frustrating. All the ingredients are there, but sometimes it's as though he isn't on the pitch.
MJ Williams is a very good player.
We dust ourselves down and move on.
Finally, thank goodness we don't have to witness Steve Evans and his horrible assistant again at Spotland. Pretty much any decent referee would have sent the chubby so and so's to the stand for their foul mouthed rants, not to mention countless encroachments onto the pitch. What horrible people they are. | | | |
| Match thread: Posh (H) on 19:34 - Aug 11 with 3112 views | DiddyDave |
A reet good kick up the arse then? | | | |
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| Match thread: Posh (H) on 19:39 - Aug 11 with 3086 views | fitzochris |
| Match thread: Posh (H) on 19:34 - Aug 11 by DiddyDave |
A reet good kick up the arse then? |
Hill was quite positive in his post-match interview. He said he was pleased with how we played, as it reflected what we did on the training ground, but he was disappointed with three defensive mistakes and one, what he termed, in-possession mistake. | |
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| Match thread: Posh (H) on 19:51 - Aug 11 with 3030 views | James1980 |
Regarding my earlier comment about not shooting, is this a possible explanation. Players are told to only shoot if they are confident it will not lead to giving possession back to the opposition?
On the subject of lack of goal scorers. Hendo, Camps, Inman and others, have all showed in the past they are capable of finding the net | |
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| Match thread: Posh (H) on 20:02 - Aug 11 with 2970 views | fitzochris |
| Match thread: Posh (H) on 19:51 - Aug 11 by James1980 |
Regarding my earlier comment about not shooting, is this a possible explanation. Players are told to only shoot if they are confident it will not lead to giving possession back to the opposition?
On the subject of lack of goal scorers. Hendo, Camps, Inman and others, have all showed in the past they are capable of finding the net |
Any player in the team is capable of finding the net. Of those mentioned, only Henderson is capable of doing it consistently, but he is being played too deep. | |
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| Match thread: Posh (H) on 20:06 - Aug 11 with 2947 views | dingdangblue |
| Match thread: Posh (H) on 19:39 - Aug 11 by fitzochris |
Hill was quite positive in his post-match interview. He said he was pleased with how we played, as it reflected what we did on the training ground, but he was disappointed with three defensive mistakes and one, what he termed, in-possession mistake. |
It's been mentioned before - but Calvin is our best defender when he's on the pitch at set pieces. We missed him today in the 1st half and he may start the next few games at least. |  |
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| Match thread: Posh (H) on 21:08 - Aug 11 with 2812 views | since58 |
| Match thread: Posh (H) on 20:06 - Aug 11 by dingdangblue |
It's been mentioned before - but Calvin is our best defender when he's on the pitch at set pieces. We missed him today in the 1st half and he may start the next few games at least. |
so wtf are we paying our chs for. | | | |
| Match thread: Posh (H) on 21:25 - Aug 11 with 2751 views | JimmyRustler |
What's the fascination with playing Hendo in every position but up front? I don't ever want to see him playing RB again. Ever. |  | | |
| Match thread: Posh (H) on 21:34 - Aug 11 with 2712 views | sweetcorn |
Wow great to be back.
We still haven’t addressed the lack of goals for me, if we’re looking towards wilbraham for goals, we’re f*cked.
How is camps still getting picked week in, week out and playing 90 minutes every time. He’s been out of form for so long now i think he needs a spell put of the team. The amount of times he gives the ball away and his decision making is laughable.
Perkins looks like he’s still got it even at 35, very happy to have him in the midfield and adds what was missing last year. |  |
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| Match thread: Posh (H) on 21:36 - Aug 11 with 2700 views | rochdaleriddler |
Had a beer before the game at the medicine tap with the parents of their right back Naismith , they said he moved to posh to double his wages. Nice people, and they paid for my taxi! |  |
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| Match thread: Posh (H) on 21:40 - Aug 11 with 2688 views | fitzochris |
| Match thread: Posh (H) on 21:36 - Aug 11 by rochdaleriddler |
Had a beer before the game at the medicine tap with the parents of their right back Naismith , they said he moved to posh to double his wages. Nice people, and they paid for my taxi! |
Absolutely tremendous player is Naismith, and O’Hara. Especially for “jock imports”.
Naismith was a stand out in a rank rotten Ross County team last season, and O’Hara could’ve, perhaps should’ve, got a Championship club. | |
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| Match thread: Posh (H) on 21:43 - Aug 11 with 2665 views | dingdangblue |
| Match thread: Posh (H) on 21:08 - Aug 11 by since58 |
so wtf are we paying our chs for. |
Well we pay them to defend which they didn't do today - still doesn't mean Calvin isn't very important when he's on the pitch and we are defending a corner or free kick - we missed him today. | |
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| Match thread: Posh (H) on 21:48 - Aug 11 with 2631 views | 442Dale |
| Match thread: Posh (H) on 21:25 - Aug 11 by JimmyRustler |
What's the fascination with playing Hendo in every position but up front? I don't ever want to see him playing RB again. Ever. |
This is THE major issue at present. |  |
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| Match thread: Posh (H) on 21:57 - Aug 11 with 2588 views | D_Dale |
| Match thread: Posh (H) on 18:47 - Aug 11 by dawlishdale |
Here's my thoughts for what they are worth...
We played some nice pretty passing football in the first quarter of an hour, and looked threatening, but didn't have enough efforts on goal. Yes we got a penalty and scored, but I can't remember their keeper making too many saves.
The 5 at the back relies on the two wing backs being able and willing to attack. Matty Done had a shocker of a game, and was like a frightened kid when faced with the option of going forward, which all too often resulted in the ball either going sideways, backwards or being passed to a Posh player. He really should have scored when left unmarked just before they made it 3-1. If that goes in... different game.
Although Rafferty started well, he cost us their first goal when he fell over looking for a foul that never was, resulting in them having an unchallenged cross and a free header from inside the six yard box.
The second goal also came down Raff's side and was a needless free kick given that was put to the far post, where they had an unchallenged headed back across goal and then another unchallenged header past Lillis. Awful defending from start to finish for that one.
Third goal: Yet another free kick given away. This time, Lillis is too far over and flaps at the ball and they get a tap in.
Game almost over.
Second half... we had lots of the ball, but it was Posh who looked more likely to score, . MJ Williams getting all tangled up on half way gifted them their fourth in stoppage time.
Lessons to be learned?
Posh are a good team and caused us huge problems. They easily coped with our slow build up play. Their pace and willingness to shoot was good to watch.
Our Wing backs need to do an awful lot better both defensively and offensively to make 5 at the back effective.
Camps will play some fabulous passes but also play some hopeless ones.
Perkins has still got what it takes to run the midfield against many teams at this level, but needs to take more care with passes.
In Wilbraham and Andrew, we have two quite similar players. Both work hard, but neither are prolific. We must play Henderson alongside or just behind one or other of them rather than wasting him in midfield.
Inman is frustrating. All the ingredients are there, but sometimes it's as though he isn't on the pitch.
MJ Williams is a very good player.
We dust ourselves down and move on.
Finally, thank goodness we don't have to witness Steve Evans and his horrible assistant again at Spotland. Pretty much any decent referee would have sent the chubby so and so's to the stand for their foul mouthed rants, not to mention countless encroachments onto the pitch. What horrible people they are. |
Just as you describe it:
http://www.skysports.com/watch/video/11470300/rochdale-1-4-peterborough | | | |
| Match thread: Posh (H) on 23:30 - Aug 11 with 2393 views | dawlishdale |
Have a look at the Posh third goal for a very funny Mr Angry reaction   | | | |
| Match thread: Posh (H) on 06:56 - Aug 12 with 2155 views | Newbury_Dale |
| Match thread: Posh (H) on 21:40 - Aug 11 by fitzochris |
Absolutely tremendous player is Naismith, and O’Hara. Especially for “jock imports”.
Naismith was a stand out in a rank rotten Ross County team last season, and O’Hara could’ve, perhaps should’ve, got a Championship club. |
Fair play to Peterborough, their scouting is consistently excellent. | | | |
| Match thread: Posh (H) on 08:05 - Aug 12 with 2098 views | fitzochris |
| Match thread: Posh (H) on 06:56 - Aug 12 by Newbury_Dale |
Fair play to Peterborough, their scouting is consistently excellent. |
Yes, it’s amazing how actually watching players can give you an impression as to their ability, rather than writing them off at the outset because of what country they play in. | |
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| Match thread: Posh (H) on 08:07 - Aug 12 with 2093 views | dingdangblue |
| Match thread: Posh (H) on 06:56 - Aug 12 by Newbury_Dale |
Fair play to Peterborough, their scouting is consistently excellent. |
It is - and a multi millionaire backer also helps. They have consistently sold players and replaced them superbly for years now. | |
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| Match thread: Posh (H) on 09:13 - Aug 12 with 1983 views | TVOS1907 |
| Match thread: Posh (H) on 08:05 - Aug 12 by fitzochris |
Yes, it’s amazing how actually watching players can give you an impression as to their ability, rather than writing them off at the outset because of what country they play in. |
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