| We short of knew... QPR confirm McClaren appointment - Column on 15:47 - May 18 with 5820 views | loftinspace |
The person who knew was the WATRB 1st May poster.
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| We short of knew... QPR confirm McClaren appointment - Column on 16:05 - May 18 with 5693 views | SimonJames |
He's already made a cock up... if he'd held out for a couple more days he could have gone to Swansea or Stoke and actually had a budget for next season! |  |
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| We short of knew... QPR confirm McClaren appointment - Column on 16:10 - May 18 with 5669 views | isawqpratwcity |
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| We short of knew... QPR confirm McClaren appointment - Column on 16:18 - May 18 with 5619 views | Mistication92 |
I do wonder where McClaren would be now if England had bundled in a goal against Macedonia at home in 2006. IMO that's where the qualification was cocked up. | | | |
| We short of knew... QPR confirm McClaren appointment - Column on 16:58 - May 18 with 5389 views | 2Thomas2Bowles |
Says it all really
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| We short of knew... QPR confirm McClaren appointment - Column on 18:14 - May 18 with 5114 views | Rangersw12 |
| We short of knew... QPR confirm McClaren appointment - Column on 16:58 - May 18 by 2Thomas2Bowles |
Says it all really
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Are we going to have to endure your bitter posts all summer !? | | | |
| We short of knew... QPR confirm McClaren appointment - Column on 18:48 - May 18 with 5016 views | PunteR |
| We short of knew... QPR confirm McClaren appointment - Column on 16:58 - May 18 by 2Thomas2Bowles |
Says it all really
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What do you mean? |  |
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| We short of knew... QPR confirm McClaren appointment - Columnght on 18:51 - May 18 with 5009 views | HamsofMickLeach |
First time poster and a bit of an armchair fan so be gentle on me. I have been a fan though for over 40 years (OK league cup winning season). In 1969 my Dad took me to see QPR vs Leeds - over 30k people in Loftus Road. The Loft was so packed that kids like me, then 9, were passed to the front to sit on the grass. It was, still i think the best game I have ever seen. We lost unluckily 0-1 to mightly Leeds but matched them through the game. But sitting on the touchline the one memory i still carry forward was the size of the players’ legs -particualrly for some reason Micky Leach - that feeling of inadequacy still taunts me...
But to the point. I’m pretty comfortable with Schteeve, I loved Ollie - his passion, his love of the club - and he did great stuff bringing youngsters on, perhaps partially by necessity. But his constant changes of pattern and personel didn’t help our season (though I doubt it harmed it too much either tbh - it was always going to be mid-table).
McClaren’s recent failures may help dampen the normal man@gerial ego and help him fit into the current mangament/coaching structure and do what he does best -coach.
BTW I am in the Far East now -a few days back on BBC World tbe 2nd story was our Tone apologising for issuing a statement of support for the last Malaysian president - he said he was forced to and regrets it - I bet he does. Sounds like a pre-emptive attempt to stop getting associated with the finances of the old regime.
Final point - Clive thanks for all you work on this site including excellent articles and reports. It is this, more that anything else, that has rekindled my active interest in QPR - I’m even seriously considering a season ticket for the first time. Keep it up mate - I know sometimes it is a thankless task. | | | |
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| We short of knew... QPR confirm McClaren appointment - Column on 19:06 - May 18 with 4951 views | Northernr |
| We short of knew... QPR confirm McClaren appointment - Column on 16:58 - May 18 by 2Thomas2Bowles |
Says it all really
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Having spent last season telling critics of Holloway to go and support somebody else and denouncing them as ‘not proper fans’ I do hope you’re not going to be a massive fcking hypocrite and hound the new guy and anybody who says anything nice about him all season. |  | | |
| We short of knew... QPR confirm McClaren appointment - Column on 19:15 - May 18 with 4881 views | 2Thomas2Bowles |
| We short of knew... QPR confirm McClaren appointment - Column on 19:06 - May 18 by Northernr |
Having spent last season telling critics of Holloway to go and support somebody else and denouncing them as ‘not proper fans’ I do hope you’re not going to be a massive fcking hypocrite and hound the new guy and anybody who says anything nice about him all season. |
I could not possibly be as nasty as the Olly haters were, win lose or draw.
I don't see this as being a better option. time will tell but I have no confidence in this appointment.
I was told everyone is entitled to their opinion right? well that's mine. [Post edited 18 May 2018 19:20]
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| We short of knew... QPR confirm McClaren appointment - Column on 19:19 - May 18 with 4855 views | Northernr |
| We short of knew... QPR confirm McClaren appointment - Column on 19:15 - May 18 by 2Thomas2Bowles |
I could not possibly be as nasty as the Olly haters were, win lose or draw.
I don't see this as being a better option. time will tell but I have no confidence in this appointment.
I was told everyone is entitled to their opinion right? well that's mine. [Post edited 18 May 2018 19:20]
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Telling people to go and support somebody else, or that they’re not proper QPR fans, simply for holding a different opinion from yours on the manager is pretty low. Like I say, don’t be a massive hypocrite now just because you don’t like the new guy. | | | |
| We short of knew... QPR confirm McClaren appointment - Column on 19:24 - May 18 with 4826 views | 2Thomas2Bowles |
| We short of knew... QPR confirm McClaren appointment - Column on 19:19 - May 18 by Northernr |
Telling people to go and support somebody else, or that they’re not proper QPR fans, simply for holding a different opinion from yours on the manager is pretty low. Like I say, don’t be a massive hypocrite now just because you don’t like the new guy. |
Link to where I said go support someone else
If I did it was in response to their belief we are a bigger club and should be doing better while ignoring the facts that the club is on it's knees... something you have tried to say a number of times.
A new manager doesn't change that. [Post edited 18 May 2018 19:25]
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| We short of knew... QPR confirm McClaren appointment - Column on 19:34 - May 18 with 4785 views | Northernr |
| We short of knew... QPR confirm McClaren appointment - Column on 19:24 - May 18 by 2Thomas2Bowles |
Link to where I said go support someone else
If I did it was in response to their belief we are a bigger club and should be doing better while ignoring the facts that the club is on it's knees... something you have tried to say a number of times.
A new manager doesn't change that. [Post edited 18 May 2018 19:25]
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Right, so I look forward to your support of a new man trying to cope with that, or at least your acceptance of people who want to do that. | | | |
| We short of knew... QPR confirm McClaren appointment - Column on 19:54 - May 18 with 4703 views | 2Thomas2Bowles |
| We short of knew... QPR confirm McClaren appointment - Column on 19:34 - May 18 by Northernr |
Right, so I look forward to your support of a new man trying to cope with that, or at least your acceptance of people who want to do that. |
Like those that gave their full support to Olly, not! and slatted me for supporting him?
It's not just about McClaren I don't except that this is a good appointment or even an upward one by the owners and I would definitely say they will yet again be wanting someone else within a year.
Who is going to be happy now if we are still mid-table next season, not the owners, not the fans that think we should be in the playoffs.
I notice when asked, he did not say himself what his league aspirations were but you can bet your arse the owners won't be happy with mid-table. and round and round we go again. | |
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| We short of knew... QPR confirm McClaren appointment - Column on 19:57 - May 18 with 4701 views | ted_hendrix |
Thanks for the write up Clive. |  |
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| We short of knew... QPR confirm McClaren appointment - Columnght on 19:58 - May 18 with 4699 views | SimonJames |
| We short of knew... QPR confirm McClaren appointment - Columnght on 18:51 - May 18 by HamsofMickLeach |
First time poster and a bit of an armchair fan so be gentle on me. I have been a fan though for over 40 years (OK league cup winning season). In 1969 my Dad took me to see QPR vs Leeds - over 30k people in Loftus Road. The Loft was so packed that kids like me, then 9, were passed to the front to sit on the grass. It was, still i think the best game I have ever seen. We lost unluckily 0-1 to mightly Leeds but matched them through the game. But sitting on the touchline the one memory i still carry forward was the size of the players’ legs -particualrly for some reason Micky Leach - that feeling of inadequacy still taunts me...
But to the point. I’m pretty comfortable with Schteeve, I loved Ollie - his passion, his love of the club - and he did great stuff bringing youngsters on, perhaps partially by necessity. But his constant changes of pattern and personel didn’t help our season (though I doubt it harmed it too much either tbh - it was always going to be mid-table).
McClaren’s recent failures may help dampen the normal man@gerial ego and help him fit into the current mangament/coaching structure and do what he does best -coach.
BTW I am in the Far East now -a few days back on BBC World tbe 2nd story was our Tone apologising for issuing a statement of support for the last Malaysian president - he said he was forced to and regrets it - I bet he does. Sounds like a pre-emptive attempt to stop getting associated with the finances of the old regime.
Final point - Clive thanks for all you work on this site including excellent articles and reports. It is this, more that anything else, that has rekindled my active interest in QPR - I’m even seriously considering a season ticket for the first time. Keep it up mate - I know sometimes it is a thankless task. |
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| We short of knew... QPR confirm McClaren appointment - Column on 20:06 - May 18 with 4667 views | Northernr |
| We short of knew... QPR confirm McClaren appointment - Column on 19:54 - May 18 by 2Thomas2Bowles |
Like those that gave their full support to Olly, not! and slatted me for supporting him?
It's not just about McClaren I don't except that this is a good appointment or even an upward one by the owners and I would definitely say they will yet again be wanting someone else within a year.
Who is going to be happy now if we are still mid-table next season, not the owners, not the fans that think we should be in the playoffs.
I notice when asked, he did not say himself what his league aspirations were but you can bet your arse the owners won't be happy with mid-table. and round and round we go again. |
That’s a no then. | | | |
| We short of knew... QPR confirm McClaren appointment - Column on 20:17 - May 18 with 4622 views | 2Thomas2Bowles |
| We short of knew... QPR confirm McClaren appointment - Column on 20:06 - May 18 by Northernr |
That’s a no then. |
It's fecking reality. something the club owners and many fans don't get.
Still, I'll choke on the humble pie if I'm proved wrong and join you all at Wembley this time next year  | |
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| We short of knew... QPR confirm McClaren appointment - Column on 20:20 - May 18 with 4625 views | Northernr |
| We short of knew... QPR confirm McClaren appointment - Column on 20:17 - May 18 by 2Thomas2Bowles |
It's fecking reality. something the club owners and many fans don't get.
Still, I'll choke on the humble pie if I'm proved wrong and join you all at Wembley this time next year |
Totally missing my point.
When you like the manager, anybody who doesn’t is attacked.
When you don’t like the manager, you attack anybody who does.
That’s poor IMO. | | | |
| We short of knew... QPR confirm McClaren appointment - Column on 20:29 - May 18 with 4576 views | VancouverHoop |
>>It's not just about McClaren I don't except that this is a good appointment or even an upward one by the owners and I would definitely say they will yet again be wanting someone else within a year. >>
That's possible. McClaren's been given a two year contract, which effectively means he'll be assessed next summer, then extended or let go. But arguably that's a sensible way of moving forward. A longer contract entails the risk of paying someone off if things don't work out. As has frequently been pointed out, we don't have money to burn anymore. I'd imagine specific goals have, or will be, set – points, goals, chances, etc. – which the team will have to meet. That seems fair. It would be more worrying if SMc had been given a three or four year contract. I read yesterday, for example, that David Moyes was still being paid by Manchester Utd. He's had – and lost – three different jobs since then. That's the type of mistake we can't afford anymore. | | | |
| We short of knew... QPR confirm McClaren appointment - Column on 20:30 - May 18 with 4558 views | 2Thomas2Bowles |
| We short of knew... QPR confirm McClaren appointment - Column on 20:20 - May 18 by Northernr |
Totally missing my point.
When you like the manager, anybody who doesn’t is attacked.
When you don’t like the manager, you attack anybody who does.
That’s poor IMO. |
No I think you are missing my point.
I defended Olly and I'm not going to apologize for that. he fulfilled his remit.
IMO he has been replaced by someone no better.
That's poor by the club IMO. | |
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| We short of knew... QPR confirm McClaren appointment - Column on 20:35 - May 18 with 4530 views | 2Thomas2Bowles |
| We short of knew... QPR confirm McClaren appointment - Column on 20:29 - May 18 by VancouverHoop |
>>It's not just about McClaren I don't except that this is a good appointment or even an upward one by the owners and I would definitely say they will yet again be wanting someone else within a year. >>
That's possible. McClaren's been given a two year contract, which effectively means he'll be assessed next summer, then extended or let go. But arguably that's a sensible way of moving forward. A longer contract entails the risk of paying someone off if things don't work out. As has frequently been pointed out, we don't have money to burn anymore. I'd imagine specific goals have, or will be, set – points, goals, chances, etc. – which the team will have to meet. That seems fair. It would be more worrying if SMc had been given a three or four year contract. I read yesterday, for example, that David Moyes was still being paid by Manchester Utd. He's had – and lost – three different jobs since then. That's the type of mistake we can't afford anymore. |
His 2 years but also the cost of sacking IH a year early, still amounts to 3 years wages.
Burning money they don't have again. | |
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| We short of knew... QPR confirm McClaren appointment - Column on 20:41 - May 18 with 4518 views | Roller |
| We short of knew... QPR confirm McClaren appointment - Column on 20:29 - May 18 by VancouverHoop |
>>It's not just about McClaren I don't except that this is a good appointment or even an upward one by the owners and I would definitely say they will yet again be wanting someone else within a year. >>
That's possible. McClaren's been given a two year contract, which effectively means he'll be assessed next summer, then extended or let go. But arguably that's a sensible way of moving forward. A longer contract entails the risk of paying someone off if things don't work out. As has frequently been pointed out, we don't have money to burn anymore. I'd imagine specific goals have, or will be, set – points, goals, chances, etc. – which the team will have to meet. That seems fair. It would be more worrying if SMc had been given a three or four year contract. I read yesterday, for example, that David Moyes was still being paid by Manchester Utd. He's had – and lost – three different jobs since then. That's the type of mistake we can't afford anymore. |
Just because someone has a three year contract doesn't mean that they will get two years payoff if they are sacked after one year, that is all in the detail of the contract. There is generally a termination clause on both sides.
I would agree though that McClaren should be assessed next summer (hoping that he gets that far), just as Ollie was this year. |  | | |
| We short of knew... QPR confirm McClaren appointment - Column on 20:47 - May 18 with 4485 views | VancouverHoop |
| We short of knew... QPR confirm McClaren appointment - Column on 20:41 - May 18 by Roller |
Just because someone has a three year contract doesn't mean that they will get two years payoff if they are sacked after one year, that is all in the detail of the contract. There is generally a termination clause on both sides.
I would agree though that McClaren should be assessed next summer (hoping that he gets that far), just as Ollie was this year. |
True, I didn't mean to suggest they'd get full salary. Just that shorter contracts mean the pay-off will be less than for longer ones. | | | |
| We short of knew... QPR confirm McClaren appointment - Column on 20:49 - May 18 with 4480 views | BlackCrowe |
| We short of knew... QPR confirm McClaren appointment - Column on 20:35 - May 18 by 2Thomas2Bowles |
His 2 years but also the cost of sacking IH a year early, still amounts to 3 years wages.
Burning money they don't have again. |
Move on. Enjoy the summer, the world cup, test cricket, the start of the new season, ryder cup etc. Lots of good stuff. And the Stones at Twickers of course. |  |
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