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For anyone who is still convinced Islam is peaceful on 18:32 - Nov 24 by londonlisa2001
Not at all - I have said on many occasions that the people that we should be targeting are the murderous IS scum and their supporters. I would actively encourage the ones that want to go and fight with IS to go and I would stop them coming back into the UK and withdraw their passports.
My issue is that you are trying to muddy the waters by stating that all Moslems are like this when the vast, vast majority are not. It will not escape your notice I assume that the people who went undercover to make this documentary are in fact, Moslems.
The woman at the heart of the documentary is, of course, the wife of Anjem Choudary, although I'm never sure what to believe about these 'hate preachers'. Quite a useful way of rounding up the idiots into one convenient little group in my view.
In response to this - I'd say that it's strange that the first thing to come from a Muslim's mouth after a terrorist attrocity is "but we're going to be victimised because we're muslims!!". Not, "I feel so sorry for those victims today as a result of people doing this on behalf of a religion I am part of".
Think about it.
Oh, and when you say the "vast majority are not", have you spoken to any ex-muslims like I have recommended to you???
And your last sentence once again typifies the type of person you are - you are always suspicious of any criticism or report that shines a negative light on our peaceful muslim 'friends'. I'm not saying you should accept everything as fact - but surely when the evidence is piling up against this, surely you have to start asking these questions yourself?!?
For anyone who is still convinced Islam is peaceful on 18:37 - Nov 24 by Lord_Bony
So you have muslim friends?? Hallelujah there is hope for humanity yet...interesting ...
EX-MUSLIM friends.
People who were brought up indoctrinated into the faith but had the ability to see sense. Three of which did so before coming to the UK and claiming asylum.
Knowing ex-muslims - people who will tell you the full uncensored story, and who (without knowing eachother at the time) are all able to corroborate their experiences of Islam, is certainly an eye-opener. It's just a shame that when these concerns and factual details are brought to light - liberals and blind apologists will deny this without ever having taken the time to speak to ex-muslims.
It's a completely medieval structure of beliefs which teach that a primary goal of Islam is to convert people to islam by force, or by assimilation. And this is what is happening!
For anyone who is still convinced Islam is peaceful on 18:43 - Nov 24 by Flashberryjack
They're allowed to drink as long as it's not alcohol, and they're allowed to have sex, but I'm not sure what the exact rules regarding sex are.
They're also allowed to hit their wives, force sex (it is the role of a woman to offer sex on demand of the husband) and many other things not acceptable under UK law. Only, the UK has allowed their 'communities' to have their own Sharia courts.
So, instead of reporting actual crimes, muslims avoid the police and instead speak to a cleric at the sharia court. Sharia courts follow the islamic sharia code, and this is always sided against the female and in favour of the man. In many cases, abused women are told it is their duty to stay with the man and they are putting the husband in a position where they are forced to hit them. This is fact.
Although Sharia courts are not legally binding within the UK - as the actual UK law overrides this, as mentioned - muslims will ignore this and instead go to and abide by their own codes only!
For anyone who is still convinced Islam is peaceful on 18:49 - Nov 24 by Humpty
The video you posted claimed white people are a minority in London. 60% is not a minority.
Whoever made your video is telling lies.
Or you are not looking at the full picture.
Even at 60% you should be concerned. But this whole issue of race isn't the point here - the video contained many pieces of footage you won't see regarding the refugee issue Europe currently has to contend with. These are actual factual pieces of footage and the background story remains relevant - these people are not here because they're getting away from a warzone (if they were, why so few women and children amongst them?!). It's this footage, not the parts about white people in london, that was the basis of the link. Footage that the UK networks are afraid to show - but is nonetheless happening around Europe! The industrial sized rape gangs we see operating in the UK today is not just happening in the UK for instance.
For anyone who is still convinced Islam is peaceful on 18:54 - Nov 24 by sherpajacob
As that paragon of investigative journalism "the sun" reported yesterday.
80% of Muslims have no sympathy whatsoever for jihadists.
Or put another way a fifth do. That's quite a few you know, however you want to look at it.
You've got to laugh, though. How did this thing work? Did some chap with a clipboard and pen approach the nearest bearded bloke in a frock and ask "excuse me are you in sympathy with ISIS by any chance?" "Why, yes," came the reply. " Not just me but my three wives and thirty two children are all degraded savages. Allahu Akhbar!"
An idea isn't responsible for those who believe in it.
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For anyone who is still convinced Islam is peaceful on 19:07 - Nov 24 with 1881 views
For anyone who is still convinced Islam is peaceful on 19:01 - Nov 24 by EvenThisNameIsTaken
Or you are not looking at the full picture.
Even at 60% you should be concerned. But this whole issue of race isn't the point here - the video contained many pieces of footage you won't see regarding the refugee issue Europe currently has to contend with. These are actual factual pieces of footage and the background story remains relevant - these people are not here because they're getting away from a warzone (if they were, why so few women and children amongst them?!). It's this footage, not the parts about white people in london, that was the basis of the link. Footage that the UK networks are afraid to show - but is nonetheless happening around Europe! The industrial sized rape gangs we see operating in the UK today is not just happening in the UK for instance.
Just think about this for a little while.
The point is you posted a video which contained demonstrable lies. White people are not in a minority in London. The majority of Birmingham's population are not muslim.
Therefore it has no credibility.
Why do you think the video contains lies? There are many fair criticisms of Islam it could make. Instead they chose to lie.
Why? And why do post stuff that you know to be dishonest?
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For anyone who is still convinced Islam is peaceful on 19:12 - Nov 24 with 1867 views
For anyone who is still convinced Islam is peaceful on 19:03 - Nov 24 by Lohengrin
Or put another way a fifth do. That's quite a few you know, however you want to look at it.
You've got to laugh, though. How did this thing work? Did some chap with a clipboard and pen approach the nearest bearded bloke in a frock and ask "excuse me are you in sympathy with ISIS by any chance?" "Why, yes," came the reply. " Not just me but my three wives and thirty two children are all degraded savages. Allahu Akhbar!"
You know damn well that is not the case Lohengrin.
You'll have seen the actual question asked, and the 'interpretation' of the responses for yourself.
You'll have also seen I assume the figures from the identical question being put to a non Moslem audience.
The Sun, not for the first time, should hang it's head in utter shame.
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For anyone who is still convinced Islam is peaceful on 19:14 - Nov 24 with 1865 views
Serious Muslims think their religion is everything
The ones who don't give a f*ck.. don't give a f*ck.. but they know their religion is f*cking insane.
'How can you not eat bacon'.. but eat 'chicken'.. these dull tw*ts don't know what a full english is.. that's usually what the don't give a f*ck muslims are like.. you call them p***s and their response is 'i know, you dull c*nt'.
The awkward moment when a Welsh Club become the Champions of England.. shh
The Swansea Way.. To upset the odds.
For anyone who is still convinced Islam is peaceful on 18:53 - Nov 24 by EvenThisNameIsTaken
They're also allowed to hit their wives, force sex (it is the role of a woman to offer sex on demand of the husband) and many other things not acceptable under UK law. Only, the UK has allowed their 'communities' to have their own Sharia courts.
So, instead of reporting actual crimes, muslims avoid the police and instead speak to a cleric at the sharia court. Sharia courts follow the islamic sharia code, and this is always sided against the female and in favour of the man. In many cases, abused women are told it is their duty to stay with the man and they are putting the husband in a position where they are forced to hit them. This is fact.
Although Sharia courts are not legally binding within the UK - as the actual UK law overrides this, as mentioned - muslims will ignore this and instead go to and abide by their own codes only!
You really shouldn't believe everything the NF put out
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For anyone who is still convinced Islam is peaceful on 19:14 - Nov 24 with 1864 views
For anyone who is still convinced Islam is peaceful on 19:07 - Nov 24 by Humpty
The point is you posted a video which contained demonstrable lies. White people are not in a minority in London. The majority of Birmingham's population are not muslim.
Therefore it has no credibility.
Why do you think the video contains lies? There are many fair criticisms of Islam it could make. Instead they chose to lie.
Why? And why do post stuff that you know to be dishonest?
Post stuff I know to be dishonest ??
The footage of the migrants causing chaos and the reasons for this is the basis of me posting the video! Footage that IS factual.
Whilst you may pick at one aspect of the video claiming it was a lie, the details are at worst not too far off the mark - yet you can't see this can you?! You may say that it's fine - 60 % is a majority - but you have to look at a number of factors here, being:-
1) That 60% is only 10% away from being 50% - and only 11% away from becoming a minority!
2) Population birth rates - it's tradition and accepted for people of other ethnic populations to have more than 1 child. In fact, it's common to have more than three or four! However european birth rates are on average 1.1 meaning the amount of births per family is approximately 1 child. Over time, it doesn't take a genius to understand the quantified and incrimental increases caused as babies become adults and have children of their own. White people WILL become a minority!
3) this video was intended to highlight the assimilation of society at the hands of muslims.
For anyone who is still convinced Islam is peaceful on 19:14 - Nov 24 by Lohengrin
The Sun? Good Lord! I don't read The Sun, all I've read is Sherpacob's post that I'd just replied to.
I'm genuinely a little surprised to be honest Lohengrin that you are not scathing of people like eventhisbraincellwastaken.
I know that your position on issues of race and religion is diametrically opposed to mine, but equally, I know that you would consider yourself a thinking man. I find it hard to understand why you can't see that aligning yourself with utter morons is counterproductive.
An educated, well researched and rational discussion on how to rid ourselves of this genuine threat to our society would be so much more interesting than a series of increasingly hysterical outpourings gleaned from the websites of the far right.
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For anyone who is still convinced Islam is peaceful on 19:26 - Nov 24 with 1843 views
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