| Scotland v England 09:46 - Nov 18 with 15283 views | QPRMUSO |
Anyone watching tonight?
Predict the score! I'm going for 3 nil England. |  | | |  |
| Scotland v England on 08:35 - Nov 19 with 2738 views | rrrspricey |
Thought Robertson, the Dull Tigers lad at LB looked a decent prospect both defending and going forward. |  | | |
| Scotland v England on 09:27 - Nov 19 with 2643 views | paulparker |
| Scotland v England on 08:39 - Nov 19 by Discodroids |
the most striking aspect of last nights new look england is the bang on trend hairstyles among younger players shaw,.lallana, barkley ,clyne etc etc..
leaning heavily on the seminal 'walter' cut pioneered by sir ian mckellans herculean performance as tortured 'walter' in ch4's early 80's tender lament on the plight of the abandoned under thatchers ruthless junta .
moreover, lace a frisson of sir john mills village idiot sharp cut from 'ryans daughter' in the mix, and a £150 wash and blow dry' lallana' can be yours.
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bang on about the Barnets Disco,
Sterling & Clyne look like they should be in the Pasadenas or London Beat
Sterling & Lallana in either cusriosity killed the cat or Frankie goes to Hollywood
Rooney looks like something out of the flying pickets
anyway that's one of the best England displays in a while, Wiltshire was everywhere same as Wellbeck & Rooney who led the line well and defended from the front
we were bang up for it and caught them out
all morning they have been banging on about how much the game on Friday took out of them against Eire , no sorry you were outclassed, also brilliant support from the English
only bad spot for me was the inclusion of Stewart "the boy bext door " Downing
he is sh*t, he cannot play left wing nor can he play behind the front 2, just fcuk him off and play Barkley |  |
| And Bowles is onside, Swinburne has come rushing out of his goal , what can Bowles do here , onto the left foot no, on to the right foot
That’s there that’s two, and that’s Bowles
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| Scotland v England on 10:47 - Nov 19 with 2557 views | Northolt_Rs |
| Scotland v England on 09:58 - Nov 18 by adhoc_qpr |
I'm cheering on the Scots personally, as England need to be given a wake up call again.
England are going to coast through a weak qualification group and then be undercooked as always when they play proper opposition. |
No way you can possibly be an Englishman... |  |
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| Scotland v England on 12:49 - Nov 19 with 2479 views | DANRANGER |
| Scotland v England on 09:27 - Nov 19 by paulparker |
bang on about the Barnets Disco,
Sterling & Clyne look like they should be in the Pasadenas or London Beat
Sterling & Lallana in either cusriosity killed the cat or Frankie goes to Hollywood
Rooney looks like something out of the flying pickets
anyway that's one of the best England displays in a while, Wiltshire was everywhere same as Wellbeck & Rooney who led the line well and defended from the front
we were bang up for it and caught them out
all morning they have been banging on about how much the game on Friday took out of them against Eire , no sorry you were outclassed, also brilliant support from the English
only bad spot for me was the inclusion of Stewart "the boy bext door " Downing
he is sh*t, he cannot play left wing nor can he play behind the front 2, just fcuk him off and play Barkley |
Enjoyed it. Promising signs and game by game we improve. Especially agree on Wilshere and front 2. we still have a bad habit of not making the most of good possession though and it is true that stronger nations will punish us.
Downing is a difficult one, he shouldn't be in the squad as we have so many better options and he has failed many times previously however, he's been picked on form and players outside the squad need to know they can get in if they are on form so although I disagree with his inclusion I can understand why.
Also, I watched on Sky and for some reason they have to compare every player to Messi or Ronaldo. I'm talking about Rooney and we all know he's not on that level but surely there is no doubt that he will be remembered as an England great when he becomes both the highest scorer and most caps. He hasn't lived up to the hype and I was concerned he wasn't in tune with the younger talent recently but definitely up there with our best and the captaincy has turned out so far to be a great decision. |  | | |
| Scotland v England on 13:11 - Nov 19 with 2440 views | Konk |
It’s good to see Chelsea still fighting the good fight from the frontline in Loyalist Leatherhead/Bracknell/Wimbledon. Stay strong. No surrender. |  |
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| Scotland v England on 14:01 - Nov 19 with 2388 views | Konk |
| Scotland v England on 13:11 - Nov 19 by Konk |
It’s good to see Chelsea still fighting the good fight from the frontline in Loyalist Leatherhead/Bracknell/Wimbledon. Stay strong. No surrender. |
W12Ranger - do you think we should be taking "No surrender" flags along to the football then? Fair play to these lads though, they don't care what happens, there's no fu cking way they're surrendering to the IRA. Leatherhead/Bracknell/Wimbledon will never fall to Dublin (or Rome for the more excitable element). | |
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| Scotland v England on 16:46 - Nov 19 with 2318 views | Rangersw12 |
| Scotland v England on 14:01 - Nov 19 by Konk |
W12Ranger - do you think we should be taking "No surrender" flags along to the football then? Fair play to these lads though, they don't care what happens, there's no fu cking way they're surrendering to the IRA. Leatherhead/Bracknell/Wimbledon will never fall to Dublin (or Rome for the more excitable element). |
Don't really see an issue with it to be honest the game was played at Celtic Park so there was always going to be this sort of flag and chants etc
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| Scotland v England on 17:36 - Nov 19 with 2276 views | Konk |
| Scotland v England on 16:46 - Nov 19 by Rangersw12 |
Don't really see an issue with it to be honest the game was played at Celtic Park so there was always going to be this sort of flag and chants etc
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I’m not a fan of the IRA or the UDA or whoever, but I’ve probably been to about 15+ games involving Celtic and Rangers or semi-finals being played at Celtic Park or Ibrox, without ever feeling the need to take a little No Surrender/Bobby Sands flag along with me. If the support last night was anything like your average Scottish international, there would have been fu ck-all Celtic in the ground anyway.
What exactly is the point? Same with bunches of Shrewsbury/Luton/Brighton fans I’ve had singing it to me at train stations over the years. I'm not quite sure what they’re doing, but I’m sure it’s very comforting to know a load of divs are refusing to yield to the IRA. Especially the divs who are about 23 and have never even been to Ireland/N.Ireland, can’t remember life pre-Good Friday and have absolutely zero understanding of Irish history. As usual with twa ts at the football, they’re just copying what the fat, 40+ cu nts who came before them do, as they think it makes them “proper” football fans. | |
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| Scotland v England on 18:03 - Nov 19 with 2251 views | ElHoop |
| Scotland v England on 17:36 - Nov 19 by Konk |
I’m not a fan of the IRA or the UDA or whoever, but I’ve probably been to about 15+ games involving Celtic and Rangers or semi-finals being played at Celtic Park or Ibrox, without ever feeling the need to take a little No Surrender/Bobby Sands flag along with me. If the support last night was anything like your average Scottish international, there would have been fu ck-all Celtic in the ground anyway.
What exactly is the point? Same with bunches of Shrewsbury/Luton/Brighton fans I’ve had singing it to me at train stations over the years. I'm not quite sure what they’re doing, but I’m sure it’s very comforting to know a load of divs are refusing to yield to the IRA. Especially the divs who are about 23 and have never even been to Ireland/N.Ireland, can’t remember life pre-Good Friday and have absolutely zero understanding of Irish history. As usual with twa ts at the football, they’re just copying what the fat, 40+ cu nts who came before them do, as they think it makes them “proper” football fans. |
Didn't see the game, didn't hear the songs, load of bollocks anyway, but, as a very minor matter of interest, if Celtic fans weren't at the game then who was booing the national anthem and is it the same national anthem that Rangers fans presumably sing when they are not playing England or going off to vote 'yes' to independence? |  | | |
| Scotland v England on 21:01 - Nov 19 with 2182 views | karl |
| Scotland v England on 18:03 - Nov 19 by ElHoop |
Didn't see the game, didn't hear the songs, load of bollocks anyway, but, as a very minor matter of interest, if Celtic fans weren't at the game then who was booing the national anthem and is it the same national anthem that Rangers fans presumably sing when they are not playing England or going off to vote 'yes' to independence? |
Very surprisingly Scotland is not made up of Celtic or Rangers fans so there might have been other Scottish people there?
In our group of 6 there are 2 Celtic fans 1 Rangers 2 Kilmarnock and 1 Hibs. We all booed anything to do with England at the game same as we did AIden McGeady and the Irish (not the anthem I don't think but I was stuck in a queue), we wanted to get an edge. Do you 'hate' Juan Mata and go up to him in the street and boo him? I doubt it but everyone on here seems to love the fact he was too scared to take a corner.
Get over the fact we give out the stick in a sporting context and take it as a compliment. The English supporters I spoke to thought the whole thing was great, same as when we were in London. What you haven't had to ask yet is what would the situation have been like if Scotland had won and no matter what you think we have taken it on the chin and accepted the 'banter' (IRA, referendum etc) |  | | |
| Scotland v England on 07:32 - Nov 20 with 2080 views | ElHoop |
| Scotland v England on 21:01 - Nov 19 by karl |
Very surprisingly Scotland is not made up of Celtic or Rangers fans so there might have been other Scottish people there?
In our group of 6 there are 2 Celtic fans 1 Rangers 2 Kilmarnock and 1 Hibs. We all booed anything to do with England at the game same as we did AIden McGeady and the Irish (not the anthem I don't think but I was stuck in a queue), we wanted to get an edge. Do you 'hate' Juan Mata and go up to him in the street and boo him? I doubt it but everyone on here seems to love the fact he was too scared to take a corner.
Get over the fact we give out the stick in a sporting context and take it as a compliment. The English supporters I spoke to thought the whole thing was great, same as when we were in London. What you haven't had to ask yet is what would the situation have been like if Scotland had won and no matter what you think we have taken it on the chin and accepted the 'banter' (IRA, referendum etc) |
No I don't particularly hate Mata but then again I don't have to make sense of QPR trying to separate itself from Spain whilst sometimes singing the Spanish National anthem to annoy the Basques. Or something like that anyway. It just doesn't make much sense. | | | |
| Scotland v England on 09:57 - Nov 20 with 2038 views | Rangersw12 |
| Scotland v England on 17:36 - Nov 19 by Konk |
I’m not a fan of the IRA or the UDA or whoever, but I’ve probably been to about 15+ games involving Celtic and Rangers or semi-finals being played at Celtic Park or Ibrox, without ever feeling the need to take a little No Surrender/Bobby Sands flag along with me. If the support last night was anything like your average Scottish international, there would have been fu ck-all Celtic in the ground anyway.
What exactly is the point? Same with bunches of Shrewsbury/Luton/Brighton fans I’ve had singing it to me at train stations over the years. I'm not quite sure what they’re doing, but I’m sure it’s very comforting to know a load of divs are refusing to yield to the IRA. Especially the divs who are about 23 and have never even been to Ireland/N.Ireland, can’t remember life pre-Good Friday and have absolutely zero understanding of Irish history. As usual with twa ts at the football, they’re just copying what the fat, 40+ cu nts who came before them do, as they think it makes them “proper” football fans. |
Still don't understand why it bothers you , football fans chanting rubbish shocker and anyway shouldn't you be preparing for the "who hates QPR more derby " on Friday rather than worrying about what England fans are chanting ? | | | |
| Scotland v England on 10:16 - Nov 20 with 2029 views | karl |
| Scotland v England on 07:32 - Nov 20 by ElHoop |
No I don't particularly hate Mata but then again I don't have to make sense of QPR trying to separate itself from Spain whilst sometimes singing the Spanish National anthem to annoy the Basques. Or something like that anyway. It just doesn't make much sense. |
Purely because it's sport (football). It's not meant to make sense just an attempt to rile the opposition.
Separately, the applause for the young lad who died at the Ireland game was a perfect showing of how much a pantomime the whole thing can be. Both sets of supporters rightly acknowledging a sad situation, I was watching the England end (from a bit of a distance) and there is no doubt they were all giving it their full backing, but within minutes they were likely shouting abuse at something Scottish. | | | |
| Scotland v England on 10:36 - Nov 20 with 2005 views | ElHoop |
| Scotland v England on 10:16 - Nov 20 by karl |
Purely because it's sport (football). It's not meant to make sense just an attempt to rile the opposition.
Separately, the applause for the young lad who died at the Ireland game was a perfect showing of how much a pantomime the whole thing can be. Both sets of supporters rightly acknowledging a sad situation, I was watching the England end (from a bit of a distance) and there is no doubt they were all giving it their full backing, but within minutes they were likely shouting abuse at something Scottish. |
Yeh I know I'm only mucking about really, but I do think that the Scots tend to shuffle up the 'consistency about who we hate' cards more than anyone else, even by bonkers football fan standards. | | | |
| Scotland v England on 11:19 - Nov 20 with 1978 views | paulparker |
Who cares , Scotland gave us stick , we gave it back , that's what happens at a big derby game , no one got kicked to death , it didn't kick off , no one was hurt , like it or not verbal's will be exchanged and songs will be sang
those who are offended go and watch Corinthian casuals or go to the Rugby | |
| And Bowles is onside, Swinburne has come rushing out of his goal , what can Bowles do here , onto the left foot no, on to the right foot
That’s there that’s two, and that’s Bowles
Brian Moore
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| Scotland v England on 11:39 - Nov 20 with 1969 views | komradkirk |
Scottish Polis had no complaints about chanting or suchlike so the F.A. had no need to comment really. |  | | |
| Scotland v England on 12:37 - Nov 20 with 1944 views | karl |
| Scotland v England on 10:36 - Nov 20 by ElHoop |
Yeh I know I'm only mucking about really, but I do think that the Scots tend to shuffle up the 'consistency about who we hate' cards more than anyone else, even by bonkers football fan standards. |
Don't worry we're all confused, my wife was born in England with an English dad (Mum is Orcadian) and considers herself English, our kids like football and copy me with support etc. However I won't let them dislike the English teams as that is their heritage, I want and encourage them to support Scotland but can't allow them to be like me towards the England national team.
For me it's all about football, like Rangers/Chelsea, I certainly didn't go home and slag off the English nation, DistortR is different for texting me at 2-0 and 3-1! | | | |
| Scotland v England on 12:44 - Nov 20 with 1929 views | Konk |
| Scotland v England on 11:19 - Nov 20 by paulparker |
Who cares , Scotland gave us stick , we gave it back , that's what happens at a big derby game , no one got kicked to death , it didn't kick off , no one was hurt , like it or not verbal's will be exchanged and songs will be sang
those who are offended go and watch Corinthian casuals or go to the Rugby |
Or people who want to sing political/sectarian stuff could maybe stick to political gatherings and leave the rest of us to enjoy the game without all the N.I. bollocks. | |
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| Scotland v England on 12:58 - Nov 20 with 1914 views | paulparker |
| Scotland v England on 12:44 - Nov 20 by Konk |
Or people who want to sing political/sectarian stuff could maybe stick to political gatherings and leave the rest of us to enjoy the game without all the N.I. bollocks. |
this stuff is always going to happen ,a few half wits singing no surrender isn't really a big deal , same as the scots who sing anti English songs and boo the National anthem,
if the game had been played at parkhead 20 or 30 years ago it would have kicked off big time and would have been 10000 x worse than the other night,
if are going to get worked up and if anything should make the news is the celtic fans who booed the minutes silence for remembrance day the other week, rather than a load of p*ssed up herberts singing daft songs | |
| And Bowles is onside, Swinburne has come rushing out of his goal , what can Bowles do here , onto the left foot no, on to the right foot
That’s there that’s two, and that’s Bowles
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| Scotland v England on 13:01 - Nov 20 with 1913 views | Konk |
| Scotland v England on 09:57 - Nov 20 by Rangersw12 |
Still don't understand why it bothers you , football fans chanting rubbish shocker and anyway shouldn't you be preparing for the "who hates QPR more derby " on Friday rather than worrying about what England fans are chanting ? |
I just don’t understand why people feel the need to sing “No surrender” to random strangers on platform 2 at Preston station or at Luton v Fulham. It’s all a bit odd. And I’m not sure what their contribution is — it’s a bit like me being sat at my desk proudly declaring that I’ll never surrender to ISIS. If the IRA were actually to declare war on the idiots in the enclosure at Luton, I reckon they’d quite quickly surrender or do a runner. Basically, we're at the football, so why the fu ck are you singing about N.I. politics?
Personally, I don't think anything goes either: singing about Munich, Hillsborough, child abuse cases etc, marks you out as a bit of a cun t to my mind.
As for Friday’s game — our defence is pony enough as it is, but there’s a chance we’ll have Kiraly in goal too, so I’m not looking forward to it at all. I’ll be happy with a point. | |
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| Scotland v England on 13:05 - Nov 20 with 1910 views | Konk |
| Scotland v England on 12:58 - Nov 20 by paulparker |
this stuff is always going to happen ,a few half wits singing no surrender isn't really a big deal , same as the scots who sing anti English songs and boo the National anthem,
if the game had been played at parkhead 20 or 30 years ago it would have kicked off big time and would have been 10000 x worse than the other night,
if are going to get worked up and if anything should make the news is the celtic fans who booed the minutes silence for remembrance day the other week, rather than a load of p*ssed up herberts singing daft songs |
I find it sad that there's a new generation of thick twa ts at Chelsea feeling the need to adopt all the no surrender guff even though they look to be in their early twenties. I've been stuck on a flight back from Glasgow with a load of Chelsea/Rangers fans and it wasn't the most fun I've had on a plane.
No time at all for the Celtic idiots who disturbed the minute's silence - I don't think there's a place for any of that bolloc ks at the football, whichever side it's coming from. | |
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| Scotland v England on 13:12 - Nov 20 with 1902 views | karl |
| Scotland v England on 13:01 - Nov 20 by Konk |
I just don’t understand why people feel the need to sing “No surrender” to random strangers on platform 2 at Preston station or at Luton v Fulham. It’s all a bit odd. And I’m not sure what their contribution is — it’s a bit like me being sat at my desk proudly declaring that I’ll never surrender to ISIS. If the IRA were actually to declare war on the idiots in the enclosure at Luton, I reckon they’d quite quickly surrender or do a runner. Basically, we're at the football, so why the fu ck are you singing about N.I. politics?
Personally, I don't think anything goes either: singing about Munich, Hillsborough, child abuse cases etc, marks you out as a bit of a cun t to my mind.
As for Friday’s game — our defence is pony enough as it is, but there’s a chance we’ll have Kiraly in goal too, so I’m not looking forward to it at all. I’ll be happy with a point. |
Dont get me wrong Konk its not anything goes imo. Racism, Bigotry and those you listed are out of order but i cant remember anything from Tuesday to be worried about (F**k the IRA could be sung by anyone i would have thought?).
If the band are an official FA backed outfit then i can see why they would distance themselves from it and not allow them to 'join' in.
I assume being 'official' helps get them in grounds etc as they do allow themselves to be censured by being part of the establishment rather than fans there for a bit of banter i would think | | | |
| Scotland v England on 13:29 - Nov 20 with 1871 views | Konk |
| Scotland v England on 13:12 - Nov 20 by karl |
Dont get me wrong Konk its not anything goes imo. Racism, Bigotry and those you listed are out of order but i cant remember anything from Tuesday to be worried about (F**k the IRA could be sung by anyone i would have thought?).
If the band are an official FA backed outfit then i can see why they would distance themselves from it and not allow them to 'join' in.
I assume being 'official' helps get them in grounds etc as they do allow themselves to be censured by being part of the establishment rather than fans there for a bit of banter i would think |
My only thoughts originally on Tuesday was that it was depressing/hilarious to see a new generation of the Red hand gang down at Chelsea. A load of divs from Surbiton or somewhere who probably don't understand the first thing about Irish history or the current situation, but feel the need to show what proper England/Chelsea fans they are by obsessing about something that these days probably has zero impact on their lives. | |
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