| Neville analysis on 09:44 - Feb 26 with 757 views | baz_qpr |
Disagree about Mbia being absolute pony at Centre half, anyone would look that next to Ferdinand.
Marseille player of the year whilst playing centre half. What he is not as Derry is not is a central midfielder in a 4-4-2 unless his job is to purely hold.
Marseille paid something like 9m euro for him as a midfielder.  but as one of the two in a 4-2-3-1 that would make sense.
Re Hill - as great as he has been as was nelson, the need to play 10 meters deeper due to the lack of pace whilst tightening up the defense means we are unable to attack effectively as a team. |  | |  |
| Neville analysis on 10:46 - Feb 26 with 713 views | daveB |
| Neville analysis on 08:28 - Feb 26 by jonno |
I like Neville and his analysis is usually spot - so much better than most of the "analysts" usually on TV who just point out what is obvious to everyone. But if he thinks we can stay up he's barmy. We are a shockingly bad, abysmal side, comfortably the worst team in the division and we thoroughly deserve to be relegated. I think Gary has a bit of a soft spot for us! |
He did say if we continue to defend and play as we have been we have no chance and we'll be down if we lose on Saturday but I could see what he was saying and it's obvious, if we do win 4 or 5 of the next 8 then we stand a very good chance. I don't see it happening but it is possible looking at the games we have |  | | |
| Neville analysis on 11:09 - Feb 26 with 698 views | WestbourneR |
| Neville analysis on 09:09 - Feb 26 by gazza1 |
Talking about Ferguson & England Managers(& me if you want Westbourne).  |
 deep down you know you were talking about yourself gazza |  |
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| Neville analysis on 11:20 - Feb 26 with 676 views | Hunterhoop |
| Neville analysis on 09:44 - Feb 26 by baz_qpr |
Disagree about Mbia being absolute pony at Centre half, anyone would look that next to Ferdinand.
Marseille player of the year whilst playing centre half. What he is not as Derry is not is a central midfielder in a 4-4-2 unless his job is to purely hold.
Marseille paid something like 9m euro for him as a midfielder. but as one of the two in a 4-2-3-1 that would make sense.
Re Hill - as great as he has been as was nelson, the need to play 10 meters deeper due to the lack of pace whilst tightening up the defense means we are unable to attack effectively as a team. |
Not debating he wasn't alright at CB for Marseille.
But he was quite clearly pony at CB when he played for us there earlier in the year. Everyone was saying how he's clearly a midfielder and wouldn shine there (being in agreement he wasn't a CB).
I agree with you that he could be very effective in a 4-2-3-1 or 4-5-1....but we're playing a 4-4-1-1 (with Adel in the hole). That makes it really a 2 man centre midfield...and he's simply not playing well there either.
Marseille may have paid £9m for him. Newcastle paid something ridiculous for Jean Alan Boumsong. So what.
When I went out to watch Marseille earlier in the year, I was amazed at how bad they were defensively. The French league is a much lower standard to the Premier League and the fact he played there for Marseille is of far lesser importance to me than how he played for us in the Prem at CB, which was pretty dreadful.
He's a CM in a 3 man centre midfield. Could be very effective there. Derry also most suited to this shape. So was Faurlin...and Granero...and Diakite....in fact it's amazing this desparate desire to stick with a flat 4 in the midfield with Adel floating ahead of them. They get crowded out and aren't good enough passers ot get him the ball. |  | | |
| Neville analysis on 11:32 - Feb 26 with 658 views | TW_R |
| Neville analysis on 09:18 - Feb 26 by pomanjou |
That Neville guy has got his head screwed on and obviously reads this site as he's clearly boned up on "How we are going to perform the great escape, again...." thread. |
You're Gary Neville, aren't you!? |  | | |
| Neville analysis on 11:59 - Feb 26 with 629 views | PhilmyRs |
A couple of points.
I think Mbia did do a decent job against Arsenal at centre back. The top performance of Ceaser that has been mentioned as covering for his inadequacies, was mostly a consequence of the sending off, not before. I’m not saying I think he’s the answer, but I’m not as sure as some that he’s not. We would certainly be able to play a higher line which would be welcome. I admit the West Ham at home performance does worry me though.
I liked Neil SI’s suggestion about Samba Diakite going wide. I actually think this guy has a hell of a lot of ability, particularly at beating players and will maybe be able to give us that much needed drive we’ve been crying out for. I think a compromise is to put him in a midfield 3 so any wandering can be covered. Think without Faurlin, Granero is the one that actually can spot a pass and make us tick over. He seems to play better away from home for me at the moment. We will need someone to help us recycle possession and keep us ticking over, he’s the best bet for this. So for me I’d be interested to See Granero and Samba with one other. I’m leaning towards Derry simply because Jenas hasn’t looked fit at all, but when he was at Spurs I had a lot of time for Jenas, admittedly he’s struggling to get back to his former self, but if he even reaches 80%, he would be a welcome addition to offer some protection to the back four and a bit more quality on the ball.
All the above leads me to wonder where best for Mbia and I think either right back, to do what he did against United and use his power and pace to good effect, whilst adding some much needed aerial presence to the team, or take the huge gamble and see if he can form a partnership alongside Samba. The reason I’d go with the latter is simply to get us higher up the pitch meaning we can press easier and don’t invite pressure. We would have good recovery pace and would be better placed to negate the pacy counter attacks of Southampton. I admit that if this backfires, the team would crumble with little passion, whereas if Hill was the pitch he would at least fight until the end. I would be inclined to gamble as I think our situation demands it. Wigan pulled off their remarkable survival run by switching to a back 3, we could have a go at this, we definitely need to do something.
Ceaser
Onouha
Fabio
Mbia
Samba
Granero
Derry
Diakite
Adel
Remy
Towsend
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| Neville analysis on 12:01 - Feb 26 with 625 views | Jamie |
| Neville analysis on 11:32 - Feb 26 by TW_R |
You're Gary Neville, aren't you!? |
No, he's Tony Fernandes. | | | |
| Neville analysis on 12:31 - Feb 26 with 588 views | TacticalR |
I haven't seen the Neville analysis, but that Giggs goal was the sort of goal we weren't conceding when Ryan Nelsen was in the defence. As Hunterhoop mentioned, in the Reading cup game and against West Ham at home, there was a huge mess on the right side of our defence (caused by confusion between Onuoha and Mbia). Nelsen had a knack for covering the errors of other people (there was one match where the right-back wasn't stopping any crosses, and Nelsen had to intercept them all). |  |
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| Neville analysis on 12:37 - Feb 26 with 574 views | westolian |
Ceaser
Onouha
Fabio
Mbia
Samba
Granero
Derry
Diakite
Adel
Remy
Towsend
Christ, that looks a good side ! |  |
| I've found a team sheet for the weekend - anyone interested ? |
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| Neville analysis on 12:49 - Feb 26 with 552 views | Hunterhoop |
| Neville analysis on 12:37 - Feb 26 by westolian |
Ceaser
Onouha
Fabio
Mbia
Samba
Granero
Derry
Diakite
Adel
Remy
Towsend
Christ, that looks a good side ! |
Here what Philmy is saying.
I'd still be very worried about Mbia at CB. I think he's a disaster waiting to happen.
HOWEVER, that team below, possibly with Hill in for Mbia depending on type of oppo, is probably the best we can field with the current squad.
It means playing a proper 3 man CM and means playing Adel in an attacking wide role, which I like. It also gives us bodies forward and cover for the back 4, which I like.
Hoilett, Mackie and SWP (in that order) are cover for Adel and Townsend. Zamora and Bothroyd are cover for Remy. Traorer cover for Fabio, Bosw*nker cover for Onouha. Hill and Mbia swapping depending on whether aerial bombardment of tippy tappy side.
I think it's good.
Will we ever see it?
No. | | | |
| Neville analysis on 12:49 - Feb 26 with 552 views | QPunkR |
Le Penis' best game for us has been at RB in the 1st game against Utd, had Rooney in his pocket all game and used the ball wisely (apart from the incident when he inexplicably put the ball out for a corner rather than a throw-in for their 1st goal  ). Also I think the defensive side of his game was really good on Sat, apart from needing to get rid of gloves, obv, but his passing once he won the ball was atrocious
I think Traore's the only one out of the back 4 who can be absolved of blame for the Giggs goal, Samba stepped out and tried to wrestle the wrong player..who no longer had the ball |  |
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| Neville analysis on 19:31 - Feb 26 with 459 views | MedwayR |
I think we need 2 up top, we've barely scored all season & have had very little prescence up front, I actually think the remainder of the season depends on the fitness of Zamora & Remy which is a bit scary...unfortunately 2 up front means we'll probably be weak in CM, a risk worth taking in my opinion & I'd go for Granero (to keep possession) and one of Jenas/Diakite. I'd also play Mbia at RB and Onouha at CB as I think it's better to have the solid defender in the middle & the occassional liability out wide, neither offer much in the way of service from full-back. Agree that we need to drop Hill to allow us to push up higher, we need to take risks if we're to have any chance.
Cesar
Mbia
Onouha
Samba
Fabio
Townsend
Granero
Jenas
Taarabt
Remy
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