| What been occuring ?????????????? 13:30 - Feb 24 with 20915 views | 2bluehoops |
Just seen sommat on news about disturbances in Rochdale regarding the daki child sex scandal whatsit,any info ? |  | | |  |
| What been occuring ?????????????? on 14:42 - Feb 24 with 1767 views | judd |
| What been occuring ?????????????? on 14:40 - Feb 24 by 2bluehoops |
At the end of the day i suppose the takeaway was always going to be a target once made public so really,it could have been handled better i suppose.Maybe closed or different managers may have had a different outcome. |
Strange,really, that all those charged and that have been named have had their addresses printed in newspapers all week.
Why not "protest" at these more relevant addresses?
Or turn up at Liverpool Crown Court to protest at the accused as those not in custody arrive each day for their trial?
Just sayin'... |  |
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| What been occuring ?????????????? on 14:45 - Feb 24 with 1756 views | 2bluehoops |
| What been occuring ?????????????? on 14:21 - Feb 24 by SuddenLad |
You are unbelievable.
As someone else pointed out - let's assume that some years ago, your house was occupied by a paedophile/murderer/sex offender (or whatever).
A gang of idiots turns up in the middle of the night and smashes all your windows, wrecks the car on your drive and sprays abusive graffiti on your walls. They chant vile abuse at you and your family.
Don't worry, though. It's just a focal point for them to vent their frustration. It's not REAL aggravation, they have to let steam off somewhere.
I hope you look forward to it, and understand their 'frustration' when it happens. Perhaps you could offer them tea and biscuits when they've finished, just to show that you really understand their plight. |
Look forward to it ?,would you like to shed a bit more light please...... | | | |
| What been occuring ?????????????? on 14:49 - Feb 24 with 1748 views | 2bluehoops |
| What been occuring ?????????????? on 14:42 - Feb 24 by SuddenLad |
Can you actually read? |
If you mean about me saying different managers then yes,forgive my presumptions if i am wrong and i hold my hand up if i am but i'm presuming the new manager was of asian origin and that had it been a white person,said incident may not have occured. | | | |
| What been occuring ?????????????? on 14:51 - Feb 24 with 1744 views | IcelandDale |
| What been occuring ?????????????? on 14:00 - Feb 24 by D_Alien |
Have to say though, that the offences for which the accused are currently undergoing trial at Liverpool Crown Court have been going on for years, with the full knowledge of the police and other authorities who for no doubt reasons of politically correct cowardice refused to do anything about - until it became so blatant (i.e. the perpetrators thought they could get away with it, or it was even condoned) that they were stung into belated action.
My own daughter was propositioned in Rochdale town centre aged 14 on her way home from school by an asian taxi-driver. People do become aggrieved at a perceived lack of action to bring these scum to justice. I'm happy for the court proceedings to take their course, but this should have been happening at least 5 or 6 years ago. [Post edited 1 Jan 1970 1:00]
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"with the full knowledge of the police and other authorities who for no doubt reasons of politically correct cowardice refused to do anything about..."
What evidence do you have for this?
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| What been occuring ?????????????? on 14:52 - Feb 24 with 1745 views | D_Alien |
Just to add, that the incident with my daughter didn't come to light until fairly recently (she's now at uni) but she made one very telling comment, along the lines of "when you're that age, you not regarded as being attractive [she used a different word] unless you've been chatted up by the asian lads in rochdale"
The girls being targeted are at a very vulnerable age, and the one's that get caught up don't necessarily have to be from a deprived background. I've absolutely no doubt that there are cultural issues at play here - but we can do no more than bring those responsible to justice and make sure we give our daughters the information and love they need to keep them safe. |  |
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| What been occuring ?????????????? on 14:53 - Feb 24 with 1738 views | 2bluehoops |
| What been occuring ?????????????? on 14:42 - Feb 24 by judd |
Strange,really, that all those charged and that have been named have had their addresses printed in newspapers all week.
Why not "protest" at these more relevant addresses?
Or turn up at Liverpool Crown Court to protest at the accused as those not in custody arrive each day for their trial?
Just sayin'... |
Agree about the turning up at the court but could get a little nasty and again peoeple branded thugs. | | | |
| What been occuring ?????????????? on 14:56 - Feb 24 with 1735 views | D_Alien |
| What been occuring ?????????????? on 14:51 - Feb 24 by IcelandDale |
"with the full knowledge of the police and other authorities who for no doubt reasons of politically correct cowardice refused to do anything about..."
What evidence do you have for this?
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Published articles where the facts have been brought to the attention of the authorites - too numerous to mention - and I'm not going to search out all the links for them.
PLUS - the former MP for Keighley Ann Cryer has been campaigning about this issue for years. Go Google. | |
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| What been occuring ?????????????? on 14:56 - Feb 24 with 1733 views | SuddenLad |
| What been occuring ?????????????? on 14:49 - Feb 24 by 2bluehoops |
If you mean about me saying different managers then yes,forgive my presumptions if i am wrong and i hold my hand up if i am but i'm presuming the new manager was of asian origin and that had it been a white person,said incident may not have occured. |
I think I understand you now.
You seem to be saying that it was 'understandable' to attack the premises, because the owner/occupier/worker is from the Asian community.
Not that he has ANY connection whatsoever with the people who committed the offences - he just happens to be from an Asian background, and works in THAT shop.
People like you genuinely frighten me.
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| What been occuring ?????????????? on 14:56 - Feb 24 with 1731 views | judd |
| What been occuring ?????????????? on 14:53 - Feb 24 by 2bluehoops |
Agree about the turning up at the court but could get a little nasty and again peoeple branded thugs. |
Oh, that's alright then. | |
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| What been occuring ?????????????? on 14:57 - Feb 24 with 1723 views | 2bluehoops |
| What been occuring ?????????????? on 14:52 - Feb 24 by D_Alien |
Just to add, that the incident with my daughter didn't come to light until fairly recently (she's now at uni) but she made one very telling comment, along the lines of "when you're that age, you not regarded as being attractive [she used a different word] unless you've been chatted up by the asian lads in rochdale"
The girls being targeted are at a very vulnerable age, and the one's that get caught up don't necessarily have to be from a deprived background. I've absolutely no doubt that there are cultural issues at play here - but we can do no more than bring those responsible to justice and make sure we give our daughters the information and love they need to keep them safe. |
Just wondering what the sentences would be if found guilty under their own relegion or along them lines,can anyone shed any light. | | | |
| What been occuring ?????????????? on 14:59 - Feb 24 with 1714 views | 2bluehoops |
| What been occuring ?????????????? on 14:56 - Feb 24 by SuddenLad |
I think I understand you now.
You seem to be saying that it was 'understandable' to attack the premises, because the owner/occupier/worker is from the Asian community.
Not that he has ANY connection whatsoever with the people who committed the offences - he just happens to be from an Asian background, and works in THAT shop.
People like you genuinely frighten me.
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I think common sense thinking would adhere dont you think. | | | |
| What been occuring ?????????????? on 15:08 - Feb 24 with 1691 views | SuddenLad |
| What been occuring ?????????????? on 14:57 - Feb 24 by 2bluehoops |
Just wondering what the sentences would be if found guilty under their own relegion or along them lines,can anyone shed any light. |
What religion would that be then?
I wasn't aware that their religion had anything to do with the crimes that they have been charged with.
What is the relevance ? | |
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| What been occuring ?????????????? on 15:11 - Feb 24 with 1682 views | judd |
| What been occuring ?????????????? on 15:08 - Feb 24 by SuddenLad |
What religion would that be then?
I wasn't aware that their religion had anything to do with the crimes that they have been charged with.
What is the relevance ? |
I read somewhere that they'd all get stoned to death. | |
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| What been occuring ?????????????? on 15:14 - Feb 24 with 1677 views | 2bluehoops |
| What been occuring ?????????????? on 15:08 - Feb 24 by SuddenLad |
What religion would that be then?
I wasn't aware that their religion had anything to do with the crimes that they have been charged with.
What is the relevance ? |
Ok then,had the crimes been committed in Pakistan,and they was found guilty,i was wondering what the sentences may have been thats all.I'm thinking the harshness of the sentence in Pakistan would more than likely be more of a deterrent than the sentences they are likely to receive in the uk.Something that maybe can be looked at in the future. | | | |
| What been occuring ?????????????? on 15:14 - Feb 24 with 1674 views | SuddenLad |
| What been occuring ?????????????? on 15:11 - Feb 24 by judd |
I read somewhere that they'd all get stoned to death. |
In Heywood ? | |
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| What been occuring ?????????????? on 15:15 - Feb 24 with 1653 views | roccydaleian |
| What been occuring ?????????????? on 14:57 - Feb 24 by 2bluehoops |
Just wondering what the sentences would be if found guilty under their own relegion or along them lines,can anyone shed any light. |
Their you go bluehoops. Sign up (if you're not already a member.)
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| What been occuring ?????????????? on 15:18 - Feb 24 with 1644 views | maybee |
Horrible horrible trend which seems to be commonamongst Asian men living in the UK; especially in our area.
My wife has suffered from this on several occasions; one witnessed by myself, when 2 Asian men harrassed her as she walked towards my car after she had finished work at the Infirmiary.. When I challenged them, they zoomed off in their Corsa screaming abuse at me!!!
I have no doubt whatsoever that the practice is more widespread than has so far been reported in the media.
Sadly, for every person who would take stupidly extreme and violent action (as in Heywood last night) there are a dozen "do-gooders" who refuse to even admit that we have a huge problem...one which needs addressing.
It is also very very frightening when so called Asian community leaders go on the radio and whilst comdemning the actions of their young men, lay the balme with the young girls for "dressing in Western fashion" which provokes the attacks.
I would like each and every person who reads this to think very carefully about how they would feel if it happened to one of their loved ones.
When I reported my wife's attack to the police, no action was taken because although I could describe the car very well plus the occupants, I had not seen the registration number. |  | | |
| What been occuring ?????????????? on 15:19 - Feb 24 with 1636 views | 2bluehoops |
No need for that,why does everything have to be race related when asians are involved.My opinions would not differ had the perpetrators been white. | | | |
| What been occuring ?????????????? on 15:22 - Feb 24 with 1627 views | 2bluehoops |
| What been occuring ?????????????? on 15:18 - Feb 24 by maybee |
Horrible horrible trend which seems to be commonamongst Asian men living in the UK; especially in our area.
My wife has suffered from this on several occasions; one witnessed by myself, when 2 Asian men harrassed her as she walked towards my car after she had finished work at the Infirmiary.. When I challenged them, they zoomed off in their Corsa screaming abuse at me!!!
I have no doubt whatsoever that the practice is more widespread than has so far been reported in the media.
Sadly, for every person who would take stupidly extreme and violent action (as in Heywood last night) there are a dozen "do-gooders" who refuse to even admit that we have a huge problem...one which needs addressing.
It is also very very frightening when so called Asian community leaders go on the radio and whilst comdemning the actions of their young men, lay the balme with the young girls for "dressing in Western fashion" which provokes the attacks.
I would like each and every person who reads this to think very carefully about how they would feel if it happened to one of their loved ones.
When I reported my wife's attack to the police, no action was taken because although I could describe the car very well plus the occupants, I had not seen the registration number. |
Wasting your time,you'll probably get a few "sorry to hear that's" but that will be about it.Peoples heads are too far up their arses to realise what actually happens in the real world. | | | |
| What been occuring ?????????????? on 15:24 - Feb 24 with 1622 views | D_Alien |
| What been occuring ?????????????? on 15:14 - Feb 24 by 2bluehoops |
Ok then,had the crimes been committed in Pakistan,and they was found guilty,i was wondering what the sentences may have been thats all.I'm thinking the harshness of the sentence in Pakistan would more than likely be more of a deterrent than the sentences they are likely to receive in the uk.Something that maybe can be looked at in the future. |
Unfortunately, if they were living in rural Pakistan, Bangladesh or Afghanistan, the chances are their victims would become the criminalised outcasts* for "enticing" the men into the behaviour
* I can do the links if anyone doubts this, or thinks I'm being racist. I'm not - I've got many asian friends and work colleagues. Its simply a cultural phenomenon that some asian men have a specific problem with our "sexualised" culture when living in the UK, even if they were born here
That's what I meant in an earlier post about "cultural issues at play here"
It doesn't help overcome this issue by pretending it doesn't exist
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| What been occuring ?????????????? on 15:25 - Feb 24 with 1620 views | 2bluehoops |
Just a thought but am i right in thinking that Asians have more or less taken over all the parks,i may be wrong i dont know but if i'm right mmmmm ? | | | |
| What been occuring ?????????????? on 15:25 - Feb 24 with 1615 views | Brierls |
| What been occuring ?????????????? on 15:19 - Feb 24 by 2bluehoops |
No need for that,why does everything have to be race related when asians are involved.My opinions would not differ had the perpetrators been white. |
"If you mean about me saying different managers then yes,forgive my presumptions if i am wrong and i hold my hand up if i am but i'm presuming the new manager was of asian origin and that had it been a white person,said incident may not have occured"
You're either a moron, or you share your username with somebody else. |  | | |
| What been occuring ?????????????? on 15:27 - Feb 24 with 1604 views | judd |
| What been occuring ?????????????? on 15:14 - Feb 24 by SuddenLad |
In Heywood ? |
No, I think I was on a train. | |
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| What been occuring ?????????????? on 15:29 - Feb 24 with 1600 views | SuddenLad |
| What been occuring ?????????????? on 15:18 - Feb 24 by maybee |
Horrible horrible trend which seems to be commonamongst Asian men living in the UK; especially in our area.
My wife has suffered from this on several occasions; one witnessed by myself, when 2 Asian men harrassed her as she walked towards my car after she had finished work at the Infirmiary.. When I challenged them, they zoomed off in their Corsa screaming abuse at me!!!
I have no doubt whatsoever that the practice is more widespread than has so far been reported in the media.
Sadly, for every person who would take stupidly extreme and violent action (as in Heywood last night) there are a dozen "do-gooders" who refuse to even admit that we have a huge problem...one which needs addressing.
It is also very very frightening when so called Asian community leaders go on the radio and whilst comdemning the actions of their young men, lay the balme with the young girls for "dressing in Western fashion" which provokes the attacks.
I would like each and every person who reads this to think very carefully about how they would feel if it happened to one of their loved ones.
When I reported my wife's attack to the police, no action was taken because although I could describe the car very well plus the occupants, I had not seen the registration number. |
This is indeed a massive problem, and one which is becoming more common, or at least is being given greater publicity.
That said, ANYBODY who commits such a vile crime, from whichever background, race, religion or ethnic minority, should be dealt with properly and the full force of the law should be used in bringing them to justice.
The answer isn't to resort to civil unrest or indiscriminate attacks on innocent people, simply because they have a particular 'profile' that seems to associate them with the offenders.
Those who seek to inflict this kind of 'justice' on others are a bigger problem than the criminals they seek to attack. They, too, should be dealt with and prosecuted.
Apart from anything else, the 'Heywood' people on trial in Liverpool haven't yet been found guilty of anything. | |
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| What been occuring ?????????????? on 15:37 - Feb 24 with 1571 views | 2bluehoops |
| What been occuring ?????????????? on 15:25 - Feb 24 by Brierls |
"If you mean about me saying different managers then yes,forgive my presumptions if i am wrong and i hold my hand up if i am but i'm presuming the new manager was of asian origin and that had it been a white person,said incident may not have occured"
You're either a moron, or you share your username with somebody else. |
I am neither of the afore mentioned and anyone with a miniscule of grey matter would understand my point. | | | |
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