| Barnet match thread 12:34 - Oct 26 with 17706 views | 100notout |
Interesting challenge today and one which will give a good indication of the level we are at.
Personally, I think we'll edge it and the 15/4 for a Dale win with Bet 365 looks good value. I'll be having a small wager on this. |  |
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| Barnet match thread on 16:36 - Oct 26 with 2889 views | NorthernDale |
| Barnet match thread on 16:31 - Oct 26 by nordenblue |
My lads 6 and his coach repeatedly tells them don't over play the ball around the back...
Just as Barnet shoot themselves in the foot with another bit of comedy defending.... Hendo scores 2.1 |
I wish he would tell Mcnulty, but at 2 - 1 we have a chance. | | | |
| Barnet match thread on 16:36 - Oct 26 with 2883 views | kel |
| Barnet match thread on 16:21 - Oct 26 by Barrowdale |
A plan B on tuesday?? Right. We got battered and fluked a win in a game we deserved nothing |
But you gave us absolutely no credit for doing so. It’s no coincidence you never post when we win.
Are you negative about everything in life or just Dale? |  | | |
| Barnet match thread on 16:39 - Oct 26 with 2844 views | 442Dale |
| Barnet match thread on 16:36 - Oct 26 by NorthernDale |
I wish he would tell Mcnulty, but at 2 - 1 we have a chance. |
But if he told McNulty he’d have to tell their manager too.
The game is full of it. |  |
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| Barnet match thread on 16:40 - Oct 26 with 2834 views | Barrowdale |
| Barnet match thread on 16:36 - Oct 26 by kel |
But you gave us absolutely no credit for doing so. It’s no coincidence you never post when we win.
Are you negative about everything in life or just Dale? |
Just a realist rather than deluded |  | | |
| Barnet match thread on 16:40 - Oct 26 with 2815 views | kel |
| Barnet match thread on 16:40 - Oct 26 by Barrowdale |
Just a realist rather than deluded |
Please elucidate. Did you expect us to have the league wrapped up by now? | | | |
| Barnet match thread on 16:45 - Oct 26 with 2739 views | Barrowdale |
| Barnet match thread on 16:40 - Oct 26 by kel |
Please elucidate. Did you expect us to have the league wrapped up by now? |
No. I expected us to carry on pissing about at the back and I was right
The reason I ( and others) dont post much on here is because we arent really allowed opinions as yours is the only one that matters apparently. | | | |
| Barnet match thread on 16:48 - Oct 26 with 2685 views | 442Dale |
| Barnet match thread on 16:45 - Oct 26 by Barrowdale |
No. I expected us to carry on pissing about at the back and I was right
The reason I ( and others) dont post much on here is because we arent really allowed opinions as yours is the only one that matters apparently. |
Not at all. But everyone’s opinions can be challenged.
We didn’t piss about at the back on Tuesday and won a tough game. Surely that was enjoyable as a fan?
We’ve a good squad, an excellent team spirit and a manager who has built that. What would you change? | |
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| Barnet match thread on 16:54 - Oct 26 with 2596 views | dawlishdale |
| Barnet match thread on 16:48 - Oct 26 by 442Dale |
Not at all. But everyone’s opinions can be challenged.
We didn’t piss about at the back on Tuesday and won a tough game. Surely that was enjoyable as a fan?
We’ve a good squad, an excellent team spirit and a manager who has built that. What would you change? |
I'd change the way we start games. With a more positive approach in the first few minutes, we could well have had 5 or 6 more points. Sounds like we are now pressing for an equaliser at Barnet. | | | |
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| Barnet match thread on 16:54 - Oct 26 with 2589 views | kel |
| Barnet match thread on 16:45 - Oct 26 by Barrowdale |
No. I expected us to carry on pissing about at the back and I was right
The reason I ( and others) dont post much on here is because we arent really allowed opinions as yours is the only one that matters apparently. |
Which others? You’ll now, of course, be able to provide examples. | | | |
| Barnet match thread on 16:56 - Oct 26 with 2556 views | 442Dale |
| Barnet match thread on 16:54 - Oct 26 by dawlishdale |
I'd change the way we start games. With a more positive approach in the first few minutes, we could well have had 5 or 6 more points. Sounds like we are now pressing for an equaliser at Barnet. |
Yep. Play in the opposition’s half for 10/15 mins, especially in games like this and at home to make the other team defend initially. | |
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| Barnet match thread on 16:58 - Oct 26 with 2537 views | Barrowdale |
Brilliant last 15. Why tf dont we attack like this from the off.
Unlucky not to get something in that half. | | | |
| Barnet match thread on 17:04 - Oct 26 with 2432 views | dawlishdale |
| Barnet match thread on 16:56 - Oct 26 by 442Dale |
Yep. Play in the opposition’s half for 10/15 mins, especially in games like this and at home to make the other team defend initially. |
The fact that we usually start games with an ultra cautious attitude is purely down to Jim. We have the squad to be top 2 or 3 but too often we are a little too negative initially.
My mate has just texted to say that we could have won that game based on the last 15 minutes. | | | |
| Barnet match thread (n/t) on 17:08 - Oct 26 with 2395 views | jonahwhereru |
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| Barnet match thread on 17:16 - Oct 26 with 2325 views | NorthernDale |
| Barnet match thread on 17:04 - Oct 26 by dawlishdale |
The fact that we usually start games with an ultra cautious attitude is purely down to Jim. We have the squad to be top 2 or 3 but too often we are a little too negative initially.
My mate has just texted to say that we could have won that game based on the last 15 minutes. |
The Barnet forum said the same thing, we had enough chances towards the end to have won 4-2, it is getting annoying in the way we are throwing points away, yes Barnet are a good team, but it is still annoying. | | | |
| Barnet match thread on 17:18 - Oct 26 with 2296 views | richfoad32 |
First half was reminiscent of last season here, when we went down with barely a whimper. Much better second half and really should have had at least a point, Allarakhia guilty of two glaring misses. At the very least it shows there's much more belief this season as we didn't let our heads drop. Still think we're missing Gilmour as Burger is just far too lightweight in the middle of the park for me. Nice cameo from Hendo, bought some energy. Came away feeling positive despite the defeat, didn't think I'd be saying that at HT. | | | |
| Barnet match thread on 17:31 - Oct 26 with 2160 views | 442Dale |
| Barnet match thread on 17:04 - Oct 26 by dawlishdale |
The fact that we usually start games with an ultra cautious attitude is purely down to Jim. We have the squad to be top 2 or 3 but too often we are a little too negative initially.
My mate has just texted to say that we could have won that game based on the last 15 minutes. |
And that’s something we all pretty much agree on - the need to be more positive at various periods during games. And that it’s totally on the manager to sort.
It’s that there’s some sort of thought amongst some fans that’s the only way we ever play (especially after bad results/stages of games). That’s something that is factually incorrect. | |
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| Barnet match thread on 17:38 - Oct 26 with 2097 views | 442Dale |
This from the Barnet forum raised a chuckle:
“Dale so one dimensional. Hoof ball to Mitchell. We should be 3 up by now. Their defence looks so shaky.“ | |
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| Barnet match thread on 17:39 - Oct 26 with 2086 views | Edindale |
Agree.
Sounded like 3 points dropped to-day. Although they had the better first half did we hit the woodwork three times in total?
Need a more positive mental attitude from the off with no fear as we are so much better on the front foot.
Kairo is in a bit of a rut but Allarakia through the centre seemed promising, and Hendo still has his predatory instincts.
We still have to play these at home and although we are treading water in the play offs now know that we have nothing to fear from them given our performance at their 'fortress'.
Good to see Forest Green pegged back. | | | |
| Barnet match thread on 17:40 - Oct 26 with 2068 views | 1949er |
Throw away the coaching manuals, grow a pair and realise what works and what doesn’t.
FAT CHANCE. | |
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| Barnet match thread on 17:45 - Oct 26 with 2012 views | 442Dale |
| Barnet match thread on 17:40 - Oct 26 by 1949er |
Throw away the coaching manuals, grow a pair and realise what works and what doesn’t.
FAT CHANCE. |
But didn’t playing out from the back ensure we got three points rather than one on Tuesday?!
It’s when and how. Nothing to do with the philosophy. | |
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| Barnet match thread on 17:45 - Oct 26 with 2003 views | TalkingSutty |
| Barnet match thread on 17:38 - Oct 26 by 442Dale |
This from the Barnet forum raised a chuckle:
“Dale so one dimensional. Hoof ball to Mitchell. We should be 3 up by now. Their defence looks so shaky.“ |
Second half we could have easily won the game. Henderson made a massive difference and we hit the woodwork twice near the end. There's no doubt about it, we're our own worst enemies, suicidal defending again, it's happening too often. |  | | |
| Barnet match thread on 17:58 - Oct 26 with 1907 views | 100notout |
| Barnet match thread on 17:31 - Oct 26 by 442Dale |
And that’s something we all pretty much agree on - the need to be more positive at various periods during games. And that it’s totally on the manager to sort.
It’s that there’s some sort of thought amongst some fans that’s the only way we ever play (especially after bad results/stages of games). That’s something that is factually incorrect. |
Of course we don't do it ALL the time but we do do it a LOT of the time!
Too much as far as I and the vast majority of fans think. Make a mistake in your opponents half and there is a good chance you will get away with it, make a mistake in or around your own penalty area and there is a good chance it'll cost you. Someone mentioned risk / reward but there is far more risk than reward with this type of play - for every example of the winning goal against Halifax there are many multiple examples of the first goal conceded today.
Its unnecassary, its boring to watch and its costing us points. Come on Jim think about it and be honest with yoursef and the players | |
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| Barnet match thread on 18:03 - Oct 26 with 1868 views | 442Dale |
| Barnet match thread on 17:58 - Oct 26 by 100notout |
Of course we don't do it ALL the time but we do do it a LOT of the time!
Too much as far as I and the vast majority of fans think. Make a mistake in your opponents half and there is a good chance you will get away with it, make a mistake in or around your own penalty area and there is a good chance it'll cost you. Someone mentioned risk / reward but there is far more risk than reward with this type of play - for every example of the winning goal against Halifax there are many multiple examples of the first goal conceded today.
Its unnecassary, its boring to watch and its costing us points. Come on Jim think about it and be honest with yoursef and the players |
You won’t hear any arguments here around the ridiculousness of employing a style that costs stupid goals.
Not seen today’s goal, but the Halifax goal came from playing quickly and, vitally, the midfielder involved facing forwards - East on this occasion. It’s the balls into midfielders facing their own goal that costs us and so many other teams goals and makes no sense at all.
When we do play quickly and in a forward direction from the back it’s good to watch. | |
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| Barnet match thread on 18:24 - Oct 26 with 1752 views | 100notout |
When we do play quickly and in a forward direction from the back it’s good to watch.
Of course it is but we don't do that anywhere near enough thats the problem!!!!! We can all see it - why can't Jim? Maybe he does but doesn't want to change - again why? | |
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| Barnet match thread on 18:31 - Oct 26 with 1720 views | 442Dale |
| Barnet match thread on 18:24 - Oct 26 by 100notout |
When we do play quickly and in a forward direction from the back it’s good to watch.
Of course it is but we don't do that anywhere near enough thats the problem!!!!! We can all see it - why can't Jim? Maybe he does but doesn't want to change - again why? |
His interview indicates his frustration with their goal. A lot comes down to player choices - East v Halifax was a lot different to East v Southend.
This is McNulty’s philosophy as a manager, said it a million times. He won’t change. It’s whether he can ensure the most effective version of it is seen more often than not. Today’s highlights appear to show he did get them playing the effective version, but without the finishing touch. | |
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