| New Welsh clean air bill 18:10 - Mar 21 with 7954 views | Flashberryjack |
THE Welsh Government could push ahead with tolls on roads like the M4 in Newport, as part of its latest action against climate change. |  |
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| New Welsh clean air bill on 06:35 - Mar 22 with 1722 views | Dr_Winston |
Let's be honest, the Welsh Govt could introduce a "Kill Kittens" bill and Kilks would think it was an awesome idea. We're not dealing with a towering intellect here. Bigots are rarely smart. |  |
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| New Welsh clean air bill on 07:19 - Mar 22 with 1702 views | Boundy |
| New Welsh clean air bill on 21:31 - Mar 21 by Kilkennyjack |
So a clean air bill is actually a bad thing ?
There you go then.
And I bet all the tourists love polluted welsh air ….. |
Most popular destinations for tourists in Wales "
https://www.coastmagazine.co.uk/places/coastal-guides/10-best-holiday-destinatio
and not a smoke stack in site ,  .
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| New Welsh clean air bill on 07:22 - Mar 22 with 1699 views | Boundy |
| New Welsh clean air bill on 21:42 - Mar 21 by Joesus_Of_Narbereth |
With the enforced switch to electric cars looming in the next decade the government is facing a huge drop in revenue from fuel duty so we can expect more and more toll booths popping up in the name of climate measures in the next few years. |
What they'll do is revert back to taxation for the use of the vehicle instead of what emissions it produces , they'll get their money ,don't worry about that | |
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| New Welsh clean air bill on 07:26 - Mar 22 with 1695 views | Boundy |
| New Welsh clean air bill on 06:30 - Mar 22 by pencoedjack |
Obviously it’s worked. |
Just wrap a shirt around its shoulders stick a daff up its arse and the oiks would vote for a budgie | |
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| New Welsh clean air bill on 09:42 - Mar 22 with 1658 views | Whiterockin |
| New Welsh clean air bill on 22:48 - Mar 21 by felixstowe_jack |
Westminster offered to build and pay for it as part of the UK infrastructure programme. Drakeford turned it down. |
I know, strangely enough it would have helped the pollution in the worst affected areas. |  | | |
| New Welsh clean air bill on 12:36 - Mar 22 with 1617 views | Boundy |
Over enthusiastic matrix operatators caused absolute chaos this morning , warning and reducing the already reduced 50 mph limit east bound between Llandarcy and the end of the 50 mph limit at Port Talbot , traffic was nose to tail with many diverting off to try and avoid the snarl up to go over the old Ferry bridge that in itself elf was on stop,
this was not because on a multi vehicle pile up , nor somone attempting suicide , all because one of these fake traffic cops was assisting someone who had pulled up on the hard shoulder , we're doomed | |
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| New Welsh clean air bill on 17:37 - Mar 22 with 1568 views | SullutaCreturned |
| New Welsh clean air bill on 21:31 - Mar 21 by Kilkennyjack |
So a clean air bill is actually a bad thing ?
There you go then.
And I bet all the tourists love polluted welsh air ….. |
It is a bad thing the way the Senedd are doing it.
I'll start with the obvious, to avoid the toll people will use other roads so clogging up the residential roads and increasing pollution in towns and villages.
I'll move on to what should be another obvious, the problem is the clogged up traffic at Brynglas, as long as that situation is allowed to continue and traffic continues to increase, things can only get worse, pollution there is only going to increase regardless of tolls.
Next tourism, faced with a slow journey through Wales that includes a tourist tax AND the new toll, I wonder how many tourists might be put off and just head for Devon instead.
I wonder if Lee Waters and his 12k miles per year will pay this tax or claim it on expenses?
Last, the problem at Port Talbot isclogged up, slow moving traffic which is compounded by the emissions from the steel works. | | | |
| New Welsh clean air bill on 17:46 - Mar 22 with 1566 views | Joesus_Of_Narbereth |
| New Welsh clean air bill on 17:37 - Mar 22 by SullutaCreturned |
It is a bad thing the way the Senedd are doing it.
I'll start with the obvious, to avoid the toll people will use other roads so clogging up the residential roads and increasing pollution in towns and villages.
I'll move on to what should be another obvious, the problem is the clogged up traffic at Brynglas, as long as that situation is allowed to continue and traffic continues to increase, things can only get worse, pollution there is only going to increase regardless of tolls.
Next tourism, faced with a slow journey through Wales that includes a tourist tax AND the new toll, I wonder how many tourists might be put off and just head for Devon instead.
I wonder if Lee Waters and his 12k miles per year will pay this tax or claim it on expenses?
Last, the problem at Port Talbot isclogged up, slow moving traffic which is compounded by the emissions from the steel works. |
Isn’t it an awful coincidence that any climate measure means we have to pay more money.
Climate change is just an excuse to squeeze a few more quid out of the perennially squeezed motorist. |  |
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| New Welsh clean air bill on 18:06 - Mar 22 with 1551 views | Whiterockin |
| New Welsh clean air bill on 17:37 - Mar 22 by SullutaCreturned |
It is a bad thing the way the Senedd are doing it.
I'll start with the obvious, to avoid the toll people will use other roads so clogging up the residential roads and increasing pollution in towns and villages.
I'll move on to what should be another obvious, the problem is the clogged up traffic at Brynglas, as long as that situation is allowed to continue and traffic continues to increase, things can only get worse, pollution there is only going to increase regardless of tolls.
Next tourism, faced with a slow journey through Wales that includes a tourist tax AND the new toll, I wonder how many tourists might be put off and just head for Devon instead.
I wonder if Lee Waters and his 12k miles per year will pay this tax or claim it on expenses?
Last, the problem at Port Talbot isclogged up, slow moving traffic which is compounded by the emissions from the steel works. |
You are absolutely correct.
People should step back and look at this. Anti pollution charges are used to deter drivers from entering built up areas such as London, Birmingham, Bristol and so on. What is the point of charging on the M4 the main artery into South Wales is it a deterrent to try to stop people using the M4 and as Cat says move the traffic onto B roads and into built up areas and increase pollution. I really can't understand how these idiots continually get voted in. | | | |
| New Welsh clean air bill on 19:41 - Mar 22 with 1516 views | SullutaCreturned |
| New Welsh clean air bill on 18:06 - Mar 22 by Whiterockin |
You are absolutely correct.
People should step back and look at this. Anti pollution charges are used to deter drivers from entering built up areas such as London, Birmingham, Bristol and so on. What is the point of charging on the M4 the main artery into South Wales is it a deterrent to try to stop people using the M4 and as Cat says move the traffic onto B roads and into built up areas and increase pollution. I really can't understand how these idiots continually get voted in. |
maybe its the long term plan, get everywhere more polluted and charge drivers for every mile travelled? | | | |
| New Welsh clean air bill on 20:01 - Mar 22 with 1497 views | majorraglan |
| New Welsh clean air bill on 17:37 - Mar 22 by SullutaCreturned |
It is a bad thing the way the Senedd are doing it.
I'll start with the obvious, to avoid the toll people will use other roads so clogging up the residential roads and increasing pollution in towns and villages.
I'll move on to what should be another obvious, the problem is the clogged up traffic at Brynglas, as long as that situation is allowed to continue and traffic continues to increase, things can only get worse, pollution there is only going to increase regardless of tolls.
Next tourism, faced with a slow journey through Wales that includes a tourist tax AND the new toll, I wonder how many tourists might be put off and just head for Devon instead.
I wonder if Lee Waters and his 12k miles per year will pay this tax or claim it on expenses?
Last, the problem at Port Talbot isclogged up, slow moving traffic which is compounded by the emissions from the steel works. |
Totally agree with you, in terms of Port Talbot they could increase the speed limit on the new road next to the steelworks and maybe a few more people would use it taking pressure off the M4. I’d sack Waters and revisit most of the guff that’s being spouted, I’d also ace the 20mph unless it’s outside or close to schools, park or playing fields. | | | |
| New Welsh clean air bill on 22:18 - Mar 22 with 1443 views | Kilkennyjack |
Open Google, type in the word ‘irony’, press the Enter, and then read the answers.
There is no charge for this education.
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| New Welsh clean air bill on 22:27 - Mar 22 with 1438 views | Kilkennyjack |
| New Welsh clean air bill on 07:26 - Mar 22 by Boundy |
Just wrap a shirt around its shoulders stick a daff up its arse and the oiks would vote for a budgie |
Are you getting mixed up with the behaviour of the Conservative and Unionist party, and their union jack flag…? 🇬🇧
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| New Welsh clean air bill on 17:23 - Mar 23 with 1329 views | SullutaCreturned |
You still need boots on the ground to win that war though.
Wales is hardly a problem to China though. My big problem is that whatever we do in Wales it really doesn't matter, whateer we do in the whole Uk it really doesn't matter. China's output will dwarf anything we can save.
Unless or until China, Russia and India start to go green what Europe does is a pointless and very expensive waste of time. Of course us plebs will pay for it while the politicians excuse themselves from any of the rules and continue to use expenses to lessen their personal bill. If that doesn't work they'll just do a Bojo. | | | |
| New Welsh clean air bill on 18:24 - Mar 23 with 1306 views | JACKMANANDBOY |
| New Welsh clean air bill on 17:23 - Mar 23 by SullutaCreturned |
You still need boots on the ground to win that war though.
Wales is hardly a problem to China though. My big problem is that whatever we do in Wales it really doesn't matter, whateer we do in the whole Uk it really doesn't matter. China's output will dwarf anything we can save.
Unless or until China, Russia and India start to go green what Europe does is a pointless and very expensive waste of time. Of course us plebs will pay for it while the politicians excuse themselves from any of the rules and continue to use expenses to lessen their personal bill. If that doesn't work they'll just do a Bojo. |
UK produces about 1 percent of World emissions. India's emissions are growing year on year with little from the government in the way of commitment to reduce them.
"CO2 Emissions by Country - Worldometer" https://www.worldometers.info/co2-emissions/co2-emissions-by-country/
Biden of course being a nice chap has just approved 30 more years of oil extraction in Alaska.
"Biden approves controversial Willow oil drilling project in Alaska | Alaska | The Guardian" https://amp.theguardian.com/us-news/2023/mar/13/alaska-willow-project-approved-o
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| New Welsh clean air bill on 20:27 - Mar 23 with 1271 views | SullutaCreturned |
There you go, if we tripled our emissions it would still only be 10% of China's emissions. The USA has 16 times our output and India 4 times.
In the green race we are so irrelevant it doesn't matter but its us UK mugs footing a very large bill for cuts that will be dwarfed by china's newest power stations alone, never mind anything over 5 years old. | | | |
| New Welsh clean air bill on 22:29 - Mar 23 with 1233 views | Kilkennyjack |
The UK has emitted about 3% of the world total human caused CO 2, although the population is less than 1%.
There is now a huge global industry around renewables and net zero.
Shirley we would want those new jobs ? | |
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| New Welsh clean air bill on 11:14 - Mar 24 with 1157 views | felixstowe_jack |
| New Welsh clean air bill on 22:29 - Mar 23 by Kilkennyjack |
The UK has emitted about 3% of the world total human caused CO 2, although the population is less than 1%.
There is now a huge global industry around renewables and net zero.
Shirley we would want those new jobs ? |
Yes plenty of new jobs building the M4 relief road which will cut pollution. Seems a win win all round. | |
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| New Welsh clean air bill on 12:20 - Mar 24 with 1136 views | Boundy |
| New Welsh clean air bill on 22:29 - Mar 23 by Kilkennyjack |
The UK has emitted about 3% of the world total human caused CO 2, although the population is less than 1%.
There is now a huge global industry around renewables and net zero.
Shirley we would want those new jobs ? |
I suspect most of it out of your arse | |
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| New Welsh clean air bill on 17:32 - Mar 24 with 1095 views | SullutaCreturned |
| New Welsh clean air bill on 22:29 - Mar 23 by Kilkennyjack |
The UK has emitted about 3% of the world total human caused CO 2, although the population is less than 1%.
There is now a huge global industry around renewables and net zero.
Shirley we would want those new jobs ? |
Where did that stat come from?
China puts out more emissions in ONE year than the UK does in 28 years and the gap is widening in which case, in 10 years China has emitted more than we have since the industrial revolution...1750. Lets call it 15 years.
Our share of History's pollution is dropping rapidly. | | | |
| New Welsh clean air bill on 17:49 - Mar 24 with 1085 views | Dr_Winston |
| New Welsh clean air bill on 17:32 - Mar 24 by SullutaCreturned |
Where did that stat come from?
China puts out more emissions in ONE year than the UK does in 28 years and the gap is widening in which case, in 10 years China has emitted more than we have since the industrial revolution...1750. Lets call it 15 years.
Our share of History's pollution is dropping rapidly. |
He probably got it from the same place as his stat about Wales being the World's fifth highest producer of energy. | |
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| New Welsh clean air bill on 21:25 - Mar 24 with 1037 views | majorraglan |
| New Welsh clean air bill on 17:49 - Mar 24 by Dr_Winston |
He probably got it from the same place as his stat about Wales being the World's fifth highest producer of energy. |
He didn’t actual say Wales were the 5th highest producer of energy, what he actually said was that Wales was the 5th largest electricity exporter in the world. I know he spouts some stuff, but in terms of his claim according to the below it’s correct.
https://committees.parliament.uk/work/833/renewable-energy-in-wales/news/146982/  | | | |
| New Welsh clean air bill on 22:04 - Mar 24 with 1010 views | Kilkennyjack |
| New Welsh clean air bill on 12:20 - Mar 24 by Boundy |
I suspect most of it out of your arse |
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| New Welsh clean air bill on 22:05 - Mar 24 with 1009 views | Kilkennyjack |
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