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Fat Frank 10:48 - Jan 25 with 11730 viewspaulparker

Getting the tin tack today apprantley
What a shame

And Bowles is onside, Swinburne has come rushing out of his goal , what can Bowles do here , onto the left foot no, on to the right foot That’s there that’s two, and that’s Bowles Brian Moore

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Fat Frank on 01:16 - Jan 26 with 1536 viewsstowmarketrange

Fat Frank on 01:00 - Jan 26 by TomS

I suppose it depends on what you consider to be a high level of football. Is it the Premiership, Champions League, International?

As to Englishmen who played at a high level, who went on to become decent managers at a high level.

Southgate is quietly going about building a decent international team. I thought Hoddle was one of the better England managers. Stevie G is benefitting from Celtic jumping up and down on the self-destruct button, and will probably be the next Liverpool manager.

Not many, in fairness.


You surely missed our Joey from that list.
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Fat Frank on 09:29 - Jan 26 with 1318 viewsMyke

Fat Frank on 01:16 - Jan 26 by stowmarketrange

You surely missed our Joey from that list.


As already mentioned here, Clough, Venebles and Francis are three excellent examples. Flooding the English game with foreign players was always going to have a negative knock-on effect on specialist positions like goalkeepers and managers
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Fat Frank on 10:22 - Jan 26 with 1241 viewsrsonist

Fat Frank on 09:29 - Jan 26 by Myke

As already mentioned here, Clough, Venebles and Francis are three excellent examples. Flooding the English game with foreign players was always going to have a negative knock-on effect on specialist positions like goalkeepers and managers


Improving standards through education is the solution, not protectionism. Lampard's shortcomings are proof of that. English coaching programmes are miles behind the rest.

https://www.bavarianfootballworks.com/2020/1/12/21055394/bayern-munich-bundeslig
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Fat Frank on 10:26 - Jan 26 with 1235 viewsfrancisbowles

Fat Frank on 09:29 - Jan 26 by Myke

As already mentioned here, Clough, Venebles and Francis are three excellent examples. Flooding the English game with foreign players was always going to have a negative knock-on effect on specialist positions like goalkeepers and managers


Going back a bit but Shankly, Paisley and Busby, in an era when there were only two competitions, won FA Cups or First Division titles and played hundreds of top flight games before having their playing careers finished or interrupted by the war.

No need for me to mention their achievements as managers!
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Fat Frank on 20:47 - Jan 26 with 1123 viewsT_Block

Thanks very good article on german coaching system.Although you can see why we will not adopt it until there are no english coaches at all in the top two divisions as it requires some methodical thinking from english footballers.Most of them are from, shall we say the less academically able end of the spectrum and courses like this remind them of school which they probably hated.

Wasn't Warburton a city boy?
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Fat Frank on 20:56 - Jan 26 with 1108 viewshantssi

Frank Lampard: “Yes I’m gutted to have been sacked, so are my friends and family. When I got home, John Terry was already there comforting my wife Christine on the couch. Not sure how they heard but they were both red faced and breathless with emotion.”

Sorry, just seen this above 😤
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