| Match Thread: Rochdale vs Crewe on 21:25 - Jan 9 with 2301 views | 49thseason |
| Match Thread: Rochdale vs Crewe on 17:33 - Jan 9 by rkershaw |
Controversial as it may sound but do you think that the insistence of going through O'Connell at the back and the introduction of Mcshane made us more offensive in the second half?? |
I think whilst most of any pace he ever had seems to have gone, his positional ability and his ability to do the basics well are invaluable, that coupled with some actual aggression and intent from the players in front of him made us more solid and put Crewe onto the back foot. We cant allow teams to play without the expectation of getting clattered occasionally, we played as if it was a non-contact game in the first half and the marking was horrible, once we pushed them back a bit we seemed to find it much easier to pick up runners and get a foot in. Why all this tippy-tappy-back-to-the-keeper, non-aggression is a constant theme when playing at home is a mystery and must be addressed quickly |  | |  |
| Match Thread: Rochdale vs Crewe on 21:35 - Jan 9 with 2254 views | Nigeriamark |
| Match Thread: Rochdale vs Crewe on 20:05 - Jan 9 by Delboy |
I have been making excuses all season for some absolutely abject performances. The first half today was as bad as it gets and a repeat of some very poor efforts. The second half masks what went before. It was based on high risk no fear give it all approach which in all honesty could have gone either way but for some good goalkeeping, stalwart defending (particularly from McShane) and a large slice of luck. However, if I believed that we would approach all games in the way we approached the second half I would settle for that, win lose or draw. To be honest I think that approach will be the only way we will survive in this league. Trying to play slow pace keep ball at the begining of games will get us nowhere and have us chasing games as we seemed to have done so many times this season. |
we especially need to play like you suggest when we play any bottom 8 teams at home. They will be the make or break for us ^ it would be nice to learn lessons from today prior to Wigan next week. Really need to be getting a home win ant that is a golden opportunity |  | | |
| Match Thread: Rochdale vs Crewe on 21:47 - Jan 9 with 2206 views | Yorkshire_Dale |
| Match Thread: Rochdale vs Crewe on 17:44 - Jan 9 by Delboy |
That last minute freekick sums up what's wrong with our mentality. Nine teams out of ten would have taken the shot at that stage of the game. It made no sense to hit the ball to the wing away from the danger area. Where do these decisions come from because it over complicates what is a simple game. There was a discussion between players before Morley was left to play what turned out to be a pointless ball. So he either took it on himself or it was a joint decision not to go for goal. Very poor on field thinking to my mind. |
" I never for a moment thought our lads would be content with a draw".......BBM 9/01/2021
Not evident to us Brian |  | | |
| Match Thread: Rochdale vs Crewe on 21:59 - Jan 9 with 2169 views | James1980 |
On the free kick perhaps that method has worked well in training. Also preserving the point was probably the best thing at that time considering the damage Crewe had done hitting us on the break in the first half. | |
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| Match Thread: Rochdale vs Crewe on 22:17 - Jan 9 with 2118 views | judd |
| Match Thread: Rochdale vs Crewe on 21:59 - Jan 9 by James1980 |
On the free kick perhaps that method has worked well in training. Also preserving the point was probably the best thing at that time considering the damage Crewe had done hitting us on the break in the first half. |
Single points won’t save us. It was a disappointing reminder of the inherent negativity we are steeped in. |  |
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| Match Thread: Rochdale vs Crewe on 22:27 - Jan 9 with 2086 views | James1980 |
| Match Thread: Rochdale vs Crewe on 22:17 - Jan 9 by judd |
Single points won’t save us. It was a disappointing reminder of the inherent negativity we are steeped in. |
Had he gone for goal and it didn't go in, Crewe broke and scored a winner. Would we be saying oh well shame we dropped the point we had clawed back at least we went for all three? | |
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| Match Thread: Rochdale vs Crewe on 22:33 - Jan 9 with 2060 views | D_Alien |
| Match Thread: Rochdale vs Crewe on 22:27 - Jan 9 by James1980 |
Had he gone for goal and it didn't go in, Crewe broke and scored a winner. Would we be saying oh well shame we dropped the point we had clawed back at least we went for all three? |
At that point in the game, our defence could've stayed back to counter any possibility of a breakaway, whilst either Humphrys or Morley took a punt for a winner, virtually risk-free |  |
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| Match Thread: Rochdale vs Crewe on 22:34 - Jan 9 with 2058 views | judd |
| Match Thread: Rochdale vs Crewe on 22:27 - Jan 9 by James1980 |
Had he gone for goal and it didn't go in, Crewe broke and scored a winner. Would we be saying oh well shame we dropped the point we had clawed back at least we went for all three? |
I would, yes.
Cannot answer for other fans. | |
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| Match Thread: Rochdale vs Crewe on 23:03 - Jan 9 with 1992 views | James1980 |
| Match Thread: Rochdale vs Crewe on 22:33 - Jan 9 by D_Alien |
At that point in the game, our defence could've stayed back to counter any possibility of a breakaway, whilst either Humphrys or Morley took a punt for a winner, virtually risk-free |
Very good point. | |
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| Match Thread: Rochdale vs Crewe on 05:56 - Jan 10 with 1803 views | Quigley_dale |
| Match Thread: Rochdale vs Crewe on 21:59 - Jan 9 by James1980 |
On the free kick perhaps that method has worked well in training. Also preserving the point was probably the best thing at that time considering the damage Crewe had done hitting us on the break in the first half. |
I don't think football is your game. | | | |
| Match Thread: Rochdale vs Crewe on 08:12 - Jan 10 with 1722 views | James1980 |
| Match Thread: Rochdale vs Crewe on 22:33 - Jan 9 by D_Alien |
At that point in the game, our defence could've stayed back to counter any possibility of a breakaway, whilst either Humphrys or Morley took a punt for a winner, virtually risk-free |
So we leave players back to nullify the chance of being hit on the break. That would mean less players in the box. There would be complaints of why didn't we load the box with more players. | |
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| Match Thread: Rochdale vs Crewe on 08:21 - Jan 10 with 1714 views | James1980 |
| Match Thread: Rochdale vs Crewe on 05:56 - Jan 10 by Quigley_dale |
I don't think football is your game. |
So teams don't practice free kick routines in training? The ball was passed to Baah, didn't he score a worldie starting from a similar position against Wigan? Crewe didn't cause us problems counter attacking? 3 points is best yes but isn't 1 point better than none? | |
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| Match Thread: Rochdale vs Crewe on 09:19 - Jan 10 with 1660 views | SunningDale |
| Match Thread: Rochdale vs Crewe on 08:21 - Jan 10 by James1980 |
So teams don't practice free kick routines in training? The ball was passed to Baah, didn't he score a worldie starting from a similar position against Wigan? Crewe didn't cause us problems counter attacking? 3 points is best yes but isn't 1 point better than none? |
Jesus pal. Just for once, let it go. | |
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| Match Thread: Rochdale vs Crewe on 09:20 - Jan 10 with 1658 views | seasidedale |
Great comeback, but still papering over the crack, will we go back to the first half tactics at Charlton on Tuesday or will we have learned from it, (I know our away form is good) | | | |
| Match Thread: Rochdale vs Crewe on 09:33 - Jan 10 with 1618 views | James1980 |
| Match Thread: Rochdale vs Crewe on 09:19 - Jan 10 by SunningDale |
Jesus pal. Just for once, let it go. |
Am I not able to defend/justify my comments then? We didn't take a direct shot from a free kick. It was passed to a player who was in a similar position he had scored from in a previous game. Was that really a negative approach? OK it didn't work out in the end but we at least we got a point. How many were expecting that at half-time?
Allow me to translate your charming post. 'Don't post on this message board' | |
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| Match Thread: Rochdale vs Crewe on 09:48 - Jan 10 with 1570 views | D_Alien |
| Match Thread: Rochdale vs Crewe on 09:20 - Jan 10 by seasidedale |
Great comeback, but still papering over the crack, will we go back to the first half tactics at Charlton on Tuesday or will we have learned from it, (I know our away form is good) |
Listening to BBM on Quest last night, he was papering over the craic | |
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| Match Thread: Rochdale vs Crewe on 10:22 - Jan 10 with 1475 views | blackdogblue |
Any one else’s Sky Broadband down in Rochdale? |  |
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| Match Thread: Rochdale vs Crewe on 10:40 - Jan 10 with 1443 views | NorthernDale |
The question about BBM future is interesting, personally I do not like to see people get the sack, but the football in general is awful to watch, their seem to be no leaders on the pitch, who can bark instructions. Possession football is not working, in the first half we had 51% and was 3 down, a more direct and faster approach in the second half got us back in the game, but did BBM not suggest some weeks ago that the fans seem to enjoy that style of football. I cannot see BBM being sacked, but I wonder if we need to bring somebody like Flitcroft (who seems to be a popular option for some fans, if this forum is correct) to the club to assist him.
The next point is... on Tuesday do we start with McLoughlin at right back and Keohane at left back, with Done on the bench. In that Keohane seems to struggle at right back in comparison to playing at left back, where he seems more comfortable. | | | |
| Match Thread: Rochdale vs Crewe on 10:44 - Jan 10 with 1434 views | tony_roch975 |
| Match Thread: Rochdale vs Crewe on 17:09 - Jan 9 by D_Alien |
I thought McShane made us look a lot more solid at the back in the second half, with no nonsense
Lund for MoM |
Agreed - early days but Lund is now ahead of Camps in the top scorers table | |
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| Match Thread: Rochdale vs Crewe on 11:01 - Jan 10 with 1389 views | 442Dale |
| Match Thread: Rochdale vs Crewe on 10:40 - Jan 10 by NorthernDale |
The question about BBM future is interesting, personally I do not like to see people get the sack, but the football in general is awful to watch, their seem to be no leaders on the pitch, who can bark instructions. Possession football is not working, in the first half we had 51% and was 3 down, a more direct and faster approach in the second half got us back in the game, but did BBM not suggest some weeks ago that the fans seem to enjoy that style of football. I cannot see BBM being sacked, but I wonder if we need to bring somebody like Flitcroft (who seems to be a popular option for some fans, if this forum is correct) to the club to assist him.
The next point is... on Tuesday do we start with McLoughlin at right back and Keohane at left back, with Done on the bench. In that Keohane seems to struggle at right back in comparison to playing at left back, where he seems more comfortable. |
Not sure Flitcroft would be a popular option though his coaching abilities obviously have merits. Your post correctly identifies where the issue is though, one which it’s becoming almost impossible for fans to understand why it still exists: if we play basic, direct football, ensuring we defend properly rather than looking to focus on how they start attacks, we look like a reasonable side that will get results. It was also pretty much the formula used by BBM two years ago which kept us up.
We’ve now managed to get Beesley and Humphrys on the pitch at the same time and there were signs they can be effective. Let’s play to their strengths initially. Maybe there’s some sort of misconception that this squad isn’t good enough, yet whilst we definitely need a couple more additions at full back and some pace going forward, BBM has recruited quite well. We have excellent central defenders, comprehensive cover and experience in midfield and a couple of promising strikers. At present, the concern is how those players are playing/being asked to play, not who those players are. |  |
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| Match Thread: Rochdale vs Crewe on 11:54 - Jan 10 with 1291 views | diver |
| Match Thread: Rochdale vs Crewe on 10:22 - Jan 10 by blackdogblue |
Any one else’s Sky Broadband down in Rochdale? |
ok in cutgate area are you connected now? | | | |
| Match Thread: Rochdale vs Crewe on 12:04 - Jan 10 with 1272 views | boromat |
| Match Thread: Rochdale vs Crewe on 09:33 - Jan 10 by James1980 |
Am I not able to defend/justify my comments then? We didn't take a direct shot from a free kick. It was passed to a player who was in a similar position he had scored from in a previous game. Was that really a negative approach? OK it didn't work out in the end but we at least we got a point. How many were expecting that at half-time?
Allow me to translate your charming post. 'Don't post on this message board' |
I got the impression from the amount of players stood round the ball contemplating it that none of them fancied it from that position. Not sure if it was 'too central' or what but playing out to Baah was in no means negative I'm with you James disappointed it didn't work and that we didn't even manage to get the ball in the box from it but if no one fancied the shot it must have been the better option. | |
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| Match Thread: Rochdale vs Crewe on 12:20 - Jan 10 with 1240 views | judd |
| Match Thread: Rochdale vs Crewe on 12:04 - Jan 10 by boromat |
I got the impression from the amount of players stood round the ball contemplating it that none of them fancied it from that position. Not sure if it was 'too central' or what but playing out to Baah was in no means negative I'm with you James disappointed it didn't work and that we didn't even manage to get the ball in the box from it but if no one fancied the shot it must have been the better option. |
or they were running the clock down? | |
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| Match Thread: Rochdale vs Crewe on 12:21 - Jan 10 with 1233 views | blackdogblue |
| Match Thread: Rochdale vs Crewe on 11:54 - Jan 10 by diver |
ok in cutgate area are you connected now? |
Nope 😡 | |
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| Match Thread: Rochdale vs Crewe on 12:24 - Jan 10 with 1228 views | Salegraham |
| Match Thread: Rochdale vs Crewe on 09:33 - Jan 10 by James1980 |
Am I not able to defend/justify my comments then? We didn't take a direct shot from a free kick. It was passed to a player who was in a similar position he had scored from in a previous game. Was that really a negative approach? OK it didn't work out in the end but we at least we got a point. How many were expecting that at half-time?
Allow me to translate your charming post. 'Don't post on this message board' |
Illegitimi non carborundum James | | | |
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