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Mint 16:32 - Jan 24 with 7507 viewsjudd

http://www.msn.com/en-gb/sport/football/glenn-murray-and-wife-arrested-in-connec

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Mint on 16:46 - Jan 24 with 5546 views1mark1

Hopefully they have done nothing wrong, and investigations will show this, but if proven to have cheated the system, then I have no sympathy for any sanctions put onto them.

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Mint on 16:48 - Jan 24 with 5538 viewsFrog

Mint on 16:46 - Jan 24 by 1mark1

Hopefully they have done nothing wrong, and investigations will show this, but if proven to have cheated the system, then I have no sympathy for any sanctions put onto them.


Sanctions? Should do time if it's true.
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Mint on 17:06 - Jan 24 with 5457 viewsD_Alien

Mint on 16:48 - Jan 24 by Frog

Sanctions? Should do time if it's true.


At taxpayers expense? Don't see the sense in that

The taxpayer would be better served by a punitive fine (commensurate with income) and community service, if found guilty

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Mint on 17:14 - Jan 24 with 5417 viewsDaleFan7

Mint on 17:06 - Jan 24 by D_Alien

At taxpayers expense? Don't see the sense in that

The taxpayer would be better served by a punitive fine (commensurate with income) and community service, if found guilty


A 'normal' person would expect to be sent down for that level of fraud if true. It's not exactly a small amount. Repayment with interest, a penalty and a prison sentence for them both.

If they are guilty of course.
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Mint on 17:15 - Jan 24 with 5416 viewsjudd

https://www.sentencingcouncil.org.uk/offences/item/revenue-fraud/

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Mint on 17:23 - Jan 24 with 5392 viewsdawlishdale

Do we get a sell on from any monies that the Revenue might be due?
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Mint on 17:26 - Jan 24 with 5379 views1mark1

Mint on 16:48 - Jan 24 by Frog

Sanctions? Should do time if it's true.


Any sanctions, might include prison, dependent upon what if anything they are charged with.

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Mint on 17:44 - Jan 24 with 5324 viewsD_Alien

http://www.fpe.org.uk/the-cost-of-prisons/

£65000 per annum, per prisoner

Irrespective of current sentencing guidelines, if someone isn't a danger to the public and is found guilty of attempting to defraud the taxpayer, how does it make sense to then add a further burden onto the taxpayer? I fully understand the need to deter such offences, but surely that can be provisioned by swingeing fines - of an order that really hurts - plus community service

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Mint on 17:51 - Jan 24 with 5290 viewsjudd

Mint on 17:44 - Jan 24 by D_Alien

http://www.fpe.org.uk/the-cost-of-prisons/

£65000 per annum, per prisoner

Irrespective of current sentencing guidelines, if someone isn't a danger to the public and is found guilty of attempting to defraud the taxpayer, how does it make sense to then add a further burden onto the taxpayer? I fully understand the need to deter such offences, but surely that can be provisioned by swingeing fines - of an order that really hurts - plus community service


Make the wealthier convict pay for their keep in prison.

Certain convicts are locked up and assets seized under the Proceeds of Crime gubbins.

Same should apply to "white collar" criminals.

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Mint on 18:09 - Jan 24 with 5240 viewsD_Alien

Mint on 17:51 - Jan 24 by judd

Make the wealthier convict pay for their keep in prison.

Certain convicts are locked up and assets seized under the Proceeds of Crime gubbins.

Same should apply to "white collar" criminals.


I could agree with that - making the wealthier convict pay for their stay in prison

I simply don't see any sense in adding to the taxpayer's burden for this type of crime, which of course takes money out of the system for public services

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Mint on 18:21 - Jan 24 with 5195 viewsMolly

Apologies Judd/ Marked your OP down by mistake.
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Mint on 18:32 - Jan 24 with 5166 viewsjudd

Mint on 18:21 - Jan 24 by Molly

Apologies Judd/ Marked your OP down by mistake.


That's jail for you pal.

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Mint on 20:45 - Jan 24 with 4962 viewskiwidale

Mint on 17:44 - Jan 24 by D_Alien

http://www.fpe.org.uk/the-cost-of-prisons/

£65000 per annum, per prisoner

Irrespective of current sentencing guidelines, if someone isn't a danger to the public and is found guilty of attempting to defraud the taxpayer, how does it make sense to then add a further burden onto the taxpayer? I fully understand the need to deter such offences, but surely that can be provisioned by swingeing fines - of an order that really hurts - plus community service


I very much doubt that each extra prisoner adds 65000 pound to the cost of running the prison service.

This is not the time for bickering.

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Mint on 21:49 - Jan 24 with 4875 viewsBigDaveMyCock

Right, I couldn’t get get Taxman by the Beatles from YouTube so I got some robbing gets instead. Hashtagapt.

[Post edited 24 Jan 2018 21:50]

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Mint on 22:07 - Jan 24 with 4813 viewsTVOS1907

Mint on 21:49 - Jan 24 by BigDaveMyCock

Right, I couldn’t get get Taxman by the Beatles from YouTube so I got some robbing gets instead. Hashtagapt.

[Post edited 24 Jan 2018 21:50]


Do you not speak Indonesian?


When I was your age, I used to enjoy the odd game of tennis. Or was it golf?

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Mint on 22:14 - Jan 24 with 4800 viewsjudd

Mint on 21:49 - Jan 24 by BigDaveMyCock

Right, I couldn’t get get Taxman by the Beatles from YouTube so I got some robbing gets instead. Hashtagapt.

[Post edited 24 Jan 2018 21:50]


Chord sequences cannot be said to be copied. Only melodies and lyrics count in terms of ripping off a song.

That's how the birdie song got past the french national anthem inquiry

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Mint on 22:23 - Jan 24 with 4787 viewsBigDaveMyCock

Mint on 22:14 - Jan 24 by judd

Chord sequences cannot be said to be copied. Only melodies and lyrics count in terms of ripping off a song.

That's how the birdie song got past the french national anthem inquiry


Nowt wrong with that. Little bit of this and a little bit of that, makes the world go around.

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Mint on 22:28 - Jan 24 with 4767 viewsjudd

Mint on 22:23 - Jan 24 by BigDaveMyCock

Nowt wrong with that. Little bit of this and a little bit of that, makes the world go around.


You can ram yer Lisa Stansfield up yer ring

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Mint on 22:29 - Jan 24 with 4763 viewsD_Alien

Mint on 20:45 - Jan 24 by kiwidale

I very much doubt that each extra prisoner adds 65000 pound to the cost of running the prison service.


That's ok then, lets bang 'em up for fun, it'll bring the average cost down

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Mint on 22:31 - Jan 24 with 4753 viewsjudd

Mint on 22:29 - Jan 24 by D_Alien

That's ok then, lets bang 'em up for fun, it'll bring the average cost down


No, let's bang them up when they deserve it according to the law of the land.

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Mint on 22:41 - Jan 24 with 4737 viewskiwidale

Mint on 22:29 - Jan 24 by D_Alien

That's ok then, lets bang 'em up for fun, it'll bring the average cost down


your right more prisoners would bring the average cost down but that's not what I'm advocating. Im agreeing prisons should be for criminals not the likes of Murray who pose no threat to society at large and on that subject there will not be many tradies who haven't trousered a cashy or many who haven't offered the same for a VAT discount so apart from scale whats the difference?

#taxistheft.
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This is not the time for bickering.

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Mint on 22:50 - Jan 24 with 4713 viewsD_Alien

Mint on 22:31 - Jan 24 by judd

No, let's bang them up when they deserve it according to the law of the land.


Bloody good idea

Let's scrap the Magna Carta, big mistake, laws of the land are immutable

But seriously, I do agree that sentencing should be applied equally for specific criminal offences; I just happen to think the sentencing could be better in this instance. Fook all i can do about it

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Mint on 22:52 - Jan 24 with 4707 viewsjudd

Mint on 22:41 - Jan 24 by kiwidale

your right more prisoners would bring the average cost down but that's not what I'm advocating. Im agreeing prisons should be for criminals not the likes of Murray who pose no threat to society at large and on that subject there will not be many tradies who haven't trousered a cashy or many who haven't offered the same for a VAT discount so apart from scale whats the difference?

#taxistheft.
[Post edited 24 Jan 2018 22:43]


No threat to society at large?

I can only imagine the scale and there's many individuals and companies that evade tax.

Consider the millions that are squirreled away. Think of how the home office cannot fund the police force or MI5 fully. Or the MOD cuts back on the type of vehicle deployed in war zones full of ground level IED s, or even the NHS struggling with staffing.

So no, the wealthy tax evader isn't going to mug you on the street or nut you in the pub.
But he's still a fookin threat that needs sorting with an uncomfortable incarceration.

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Mint on 22:53 - Jan 24 with 4700 viewskiwidale

Mint on 22:50 - Jan 24 by D_Alien

Bloody good idea

Let's scrap the Magna Carta, big mistake, laws of the land are immutable

But seriously, I do agree that sentencing should be applied equally for specific criminal offences; I just happen to think the sentencing could be better in this instance. Fook all i can do about it


"Laws of the land are immutable"

funniest thing Ive heard on here.

This is not the time for bickering.

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Mint on 22:55 - Jan 24 with 4693 viewsD_Alien

Mint on 22:53 - Jan 24 by kiwidale

"Laws of the land are immutable"

funniest thing Ive heard on here.


I think you've heard it wrong...

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