| Sheff United now all ticket on 18:29 - Mar 1 with 2875 views | 442Dale |
| Sheff United now all ticket on 18:02 - Mar 1 by rochdaleriddler |
I'm thinking that isn't true. Why would you go to the effort of a big promotion to increase the gate, and then scupper the game, doesn't make any sense. |
It is indeed nonsense. It was a massive game both on and off the pitch. Not only was the promotion of the £1 offer really good and the game being off leading to unwanted criticism from regulars and newer fans alike, the chance of getting back on track was vital. As it is we've the psychological blow of the gap to sixth increasing. The club will have been gutted it was as off.
Some positive steps have been made with news about the extra opening hours and the goodwill gesture around no admin fees, but the situation around the communication of the late postponement and subsequent worries around the pitch remain and you'd expect that to be addressed soon too. |  |
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| Sheff United now all ticket on 18:31 - Mar 1 with 2870 views | 442Dale |
| Sheff United now all ticket on 18:25 - Mar 1 by dingdangblue |
The bury and Accrington pitches looked soaked and not in great condition in their YouTube highlights - maybe a decision was made to protect ours after the money we've just spent on it. I'm sure no one at the club wanted it ruined after 3 games on it. |
The match referee makes the decision. It's either fit to play on or it isn't.
I presume he has to do a report on it. | |
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| Sheff United now all ticket on 18:45 - Mar 1 with 2847 views | YouTubeDale |
Ofcourse they put a lot of work into the promotion but they didn't know when they started that promotion what state the pitch would be in. The club was suddenly faced with a new scenario forced on them by mother nature and other factors not present when the promotion started (more ill players, more injuries and players having to work harder, hence perhaps not fully energised, due to sendings off a few days earlier). Yes, we wanted to get more points on the board quickly but perhaps it was calculated that we were best to delay the match when there could be a better chance of winning it. I am not saying I am correct, because I don't really know the truth, but it was my gut feeling. |  |
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| Sheff United now all ticket on 18:55 - Mar 1 with 2829 views | 442Dale |
| Sheff United now all ticket on 18:45 - Mar 1 by YouTubeDale |
Ofcourse they put a lot of work into the promotion but they didn't know when they started that promotion what state the pitch would be in. The club was suddenly faced with a new scenario forced on them by mother nature and other factors not present when the promotion started (more ill players, more injuries and players having to work harder, hence perhaps not fully energised, due to sendings off a few days earlier). Yes, we wanted to get more points on the board quickly but perhaps it was calculated that we were best to delay the match when there could be a better chance of winning it. I am not saying I am correct, because I don't really know the truth, but it was my gut feeling. |
They weren't "suddenly faced with a new scenario" because of the weather. By their own admittance there was surface water because of the amount of rain in the previous 48 hours. Nothing really sudden about it.
We couldn't delay the match, the referee decides. | |
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| Sheff United now all ticket on 19:29 - Mar 1 with 2749 views | nordenblue |
| Sheff United now all ticket on 18:45 - Mar 1 by YouTubeDale |
Ofcourse they put a lot of work into the promotion but they didn't know when they started that promotion what state the pitch would be in. The club was suddenly faced with a new scenario forced on them by mother nature and other factors not present when the promotion started (more ill players, more injuries and players having to work harder, hence perhaps not fully energised, due to sendings off a few days earlier). Yes, we wanted to get more points on the board quickly but perhaps it was calculated that we were best to delay the match when there could be a better chance of winning it. I am not saying I am correct, because I don't really know the truth, but it was my gut feeling. |
The club can't delay the match? |  | | |
| Sheff United now all ticket on 19:40 - Mar 1 with 2730 views | YouTubeDale |
| Sheff United now all ticket on 19:29 - Mar 1 by nordenblue |
The club can't delay the match? |
They could delay it by not doing any work on the pitch, the pitch then being unplayable, that's my point. | |
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| Sheff United now all ticket on 19:46 - Mar 1 with 2718 views | YouTubeDale |
| Sheff United now all ticket on 18:55 - Mar 1 by 442Dale |
They weren't "suddenly faced with a new scenario" because of the weather. By their own admittance there was surface water because of the amount of rain in the previous 48 hours. Nothing really sudden about it.
We couldn't delay the match, the referee decides. |
"We couldn't delay the match, the referee decides." Do you really think I am thick 442 ?
Come on, show people some respect. I know he decides.
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| Sheff United now all ticket on 20:25 - Mar 1 with 2662 views | nordenblue |
| Sheff United now all ticket on 19:40 - Mar 1 by YouTubeDale |
They could delay it by not doing any work on the pitch, the pitch then being unplayable, that's my point. |
Then squeeze more games into less remaining days,how does that benefit us,not to mention now having Raff suspended for the next game instead?
There's no guarentee we won't pick any further injuries up before the re arranged fixture either..... | | | |
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| Sheff United now all ticket on 20:32 - Mar 1 with 2653 views | TVOS1907 |
| Sheff United now all ticket on 18:45 - Mar 1 by YouTubeDale |
Ofcourse they put a lot of work into the promotion but they didn't know when they started that promotion what state the pitch would be in. The club was suddenly faced with a new scenario forced on them by mother nature and other factors not present when the promotion started (more ill players, more injuries and players having to work harder, hence perhaps not fully energised, due to sendings off a few days earlier). Yes, we wanted to get more points on the board quickly but perhaps it was calculated that we were best to delay the match when there could be a better chance of winning it. I am not saying I am correct, because I don't really know the truth, but it was my gut feeling. |
Do you actually believe what you've written? |  |
| When I was your age, I used to enjoy the odd game of tennis. Or was it golf? |
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| Sheff United now all ticket on 20:36 - Mar 1 with 2643 views | 442Dale |
| Sheff United now all ticket on 19:46 - Mar 1 by YouTubeDale |
"We couldn't delay the match, the referee decides." Do you really think I am thick 442 ?
Come on, show people some respect. I know he decides.
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I was stating the ref decides and that a club can't decide to delay a match. It was not a case of confirming whether someone knew that, only clarifying it.
Having already established why a postponement was the worst thing to happen both on and off the pitch, why would there be any talk of wanting a "delay"?
The club were tweeting about the £1 offer 90 minutes before the postponement, the ref turned up and the pitch wasn't playable. The issue remains around the communication of the obvious doubts about the pitch after all that rain, nothing else. | |
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| Sheff United now all ticket on 20:36 - Mar 1 with 2640 views | TVOS1907 |
| Sheff United now all ticket on 20:25 - Mar 1 by nordenblue |
Then squeeze more games into less remaining days,how does that benefit us,not to mention now having Raff suspended for the next game instead?
There's no guarentee we won't pick any further injuries up before the re arranged fixture either..... |
Nor is there a guarantee that we would have more chance of winning the game when it's replayed, as implied.
I'm 100% certain the club wanted that game on, but they were beaten by the weather and pitch issues.
Anything else is just conspiracy theories. | |
| When I was your age, I used to enjoy the odd game of tennis. Or was it golf? |
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| Sheff United now all ticket on 21:00 - Mar 1 with 2605 views | pioneer |
| Sheff United now all ticket on 18:29 - Mar 1 by 442Dale |
It is indeed nonsense. It was a massive game both on and off the pitch. Not only was the promotion of the £1 offer really good and the game being off leading to unwanted criticism from regulars and newer fans alike, the chance of getting back on track was vital. As it is we've the psychological blow of the gap to sixth increasing. The club will have been gutted it was as off.
Some positive steps have been made with news about the extra opening hours and the goodwill gesture around no admin fees, but the situation around the communication of the late postponement and subsequent worries around the pitch remain and you'd expect that to be addressed soon too. |
I luv this 'goodwill gesture' crap - its a marketing strategy (and hooray to that - should be the same every week) given the pickle the postponement has left them in. Just say in an additional effort to boost attendence the charge has been removed.
Why do we have to dress stuff up into something it isn't? Do they think we were born yesterday? | | | |
| Sheff United now all ticket on 21:03 - Mar 1 with 2600 views | TVOS1907 |
| Sheff United now all ticket on 21:00 - Mar 1 by pioneer |
I luv this 'goodwill gesture' crap - its a marketing strategy (and hooray to that - should be the same every week) given the pickle the postponement has left them in. Just say in an additional effort to boost attendence the charge has been removed.
Why do we have to dress stuff up into something it isn't? Do they think we were born yesterday? |
Regardless of all that, what did you think of the £1 admission idea in the first place? | |
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| Sheff United now all ticket on 22:54 - Mar 1 with 2474 views | jokerthief |
Easy solution there will be more of them than us..
Give them half the ground... |  | | |
| Sheff United now all ticket on 05:46 - Mar 2 with 2362 views | TheRazor |
| Sheff United now all ticket on 16:08 - Mar 1 by D_Alien |
We've all been there PG, especially when the Sandy was an open terrace to any fans, so clearly I'm not a lad... but fair do's, and TheRazor was just trying to be friendly, although his subsequent post about Sheffield working men was full of shite  |
Full of shite? Maybe I overdid the rhetoric a bit, but the basic thing I was saying there is very true of Sheffield and Sheffielders - and especially of Sheff United fans expectations from players.
I don't know if you've ever been to Sheffield, but if you do happen to venture into the city centre (a pointless exercise unless you happen to be visiting SUFC or possibly the oldest most decrepit John Lewis store in the country) then you may be struck by one thing (and I don't mean a Blade's fan with a dagger in his hand). There is a noticeable lack of commercial investment in the city. Unlike Manchester, or Leeds, there are no top end stores, such as Harvey Nicholls or Selfridges, there isn't a single 5 star hotel, there are few if any, big multi-national companies and there is no airport. The city centre is mostly boarded up or under demolition right now. Some of us are hoping that we might get a city centre that rivals what Manchester or Leeds can offer - but frankly it's not going to happen.
And why?
Because we don't like "owt fancy". That's why. We've had a few good high end restaurants open over the years and they've all gone bust. I was speaking with the owner of one of them a while ago. He'd got the same restaurant in 3 other cities, same style, same food. He was doing really well elsewhere, but the Sheffield one was disaster - because folks won't pay the prices here. It's more of a "make do and mend" society. Which actually, goes back to the engineering roots of the city.
The stuff about working in the Steelworks is pretty accurate actually. Maybe I exaggerated a bit on the temperatures that they used to work in - but there are generations of people here who could testify to the hard manual work and dangerous conditions. And you only need to drive down the East End of Sheffield, where all the steelworks used to be, to see that there was indeed a pub on every street corner at one time - and yes, these did use to open at 6am for when the night shift left work.
Dave Bassett, one of our most successful managers of recent years, said a few months ago when Wilder was made manager, more or less, the same thing as I said on here about what Sheffield folk demand and expect. And it's graft. That's a value that is held in very high regard here.
That team we had last season, under Adkins, was appalling. And he is the worst manager I've ever known in almost 50 years of watching the Blades. He filled the team with some right "end of career" crap, on big wages. They couldn't give a flying ferk about putting the effort in and he was as clueless as clueless can be. He couldn't decide on his best 11 all season - and he did weird stuff like playing Matty Done at left back when he'd been doing well for us a striker!
But Adkins committed one other MAJOR sin by Sheffield folks standards. He spoke absolute BULLSHIT every time he opened his mouth. It was one continuous barrage of management speak, jargon, cliche's, platitudes and over-hyped bullshit - thick and pure as it comes.
So, I'm sorry mate, no offence taken, but I just had to try and clear my name here when your post suggested that I was slipping into Adkins mode!
Enjoy the game! [Post edited 2 Mar 2017 5:48]
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| Sheff United now all ticket on 06:01 - Mar 2 with 2352 views | D_Alien |
| Sheff United now all ticket on 05:46 - Mar 2 by TheRazor |
Full of shite? Maybe I overdid the rhetoric a bit, but the basic thing I was saying there is very true of Sheffield and Sheffielders - and especially of Sheff United fans expectations from players.
I don't know if you've ever been to Sheffield, but if you do happen to venture into the city centre (a pointless exercise unless you happen to be visiting SUFC or possibly the oldest most decrepit John Lewis store in the country) then you may be struck by one thing (and I don't mean a Blade's fan with a dagger in his hand). There is a noticeable lack of commercial investment in the city. Unlike Manchester, or Leeds, there are no top end stores, such as Harvey Nicholls or Selfridges, there isn't a single 5 star hotel, there are few if any, big multi-national companies and there is no airport. The city centre is mostly boarded up or under demolition right now. Some of us are hoping that we might get a city centre that rivals what Manchester or Leeds can offer - but frankly it's not going to happen.
And why?
Because we don't like "owt fancy". That's why. We've had a few good high end restaurants open over the years and they've all gone bust. I was speaking with the owner of one of them a while ago. He'd got the same restaurant in 3 other cities, same style, same food. He was doing really well elsewhere, but the Sheffield one was disaster - because folks won't pay the prices here. It's more of a "make do and mend" society. Which actually, goes back to the engineering roots of the city.
The stuff about working in the Steelworks is pretty accurate actually. Maybe I exaggerated a bit on the temperatures that they used to work in - but there are generations of people here who could testify to the hard manual work and dangerous conditions. And you only need to drive down the East End of Sheffield, where all the steelworks used to be, to see that there was indeed a pub on every street corner at one time - and yes, these did use to open at 6am for when the night shift left work.
Dave Bassett, one of our most successful managers of recent years, said a few months ago when Wilder was made manager, more or less, the same thing as I said on here about what Sheffield folk demand and expect. And it's graft. That's a value that is held in very high regard here.
That team we had last season, under Adkins, was appalling. And he is the worst manager I've ever known in almost 50 years of watching the Blades. He filled the team with some right "end of career" crap, on big wages. They couldn't give a flying ferk about putting the effort in and he was as clueless as clueless can be. He couldn't decide on his best 11 all season - and he did weird stuff like playing Matty Done at left back when he'd been doing well for us a striker!
But Adkins committed one other MAJOR sin by Sheffield folks standards. He spoke absolute BULLSHIT every time he opened his mouth. It was one continuous barrage of management speak, jargon, cliche's, platitudes and over-hyped bullshit - thick and pure as it comes.
So, I'm sorry mate, no offence taken, but I just had to try and clear my name here when your post suggested that I was slipping into Adkins mode!
Enjoy the game! [Post edited 2 Mar 2017 5:48]
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Bloody hell Razor, you've just proved my point!
I like Sheffield, a no nonsense kind of city and yep, I've walked through the centre to Bramall Lane from Kelham Island a couple of years back, fine ales btw, and it's pretty much as you describe it
I could bang on about Rochdale too, but I won't 
No idea how it'll go on Saturday (or if it'll go at all) except to say if we hit form you'll have a game on your hands. Good luck after that |  |
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| Sheff United now all ticket on 06:30 - Mar 2 with 2328 views | Shun |
The whole night has been a veritable maelstrom of snow, sleet and rain, with no let off whatsoever. Horrible weather at present. |  | | |
| Sheff United now all ticket on 07:22 - Mar 2 with 2279 views | 442Dale |
Rain forecast from 11am tomorrow all the way through until the early hours of Saturday with more rain on and off from there on. | |
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| Sheff United now all ticket on 07:48 - Mar 2 with 2245 views | dingdangblue |
| Sheff United now all ticket on 07:22 - Mar 2 by 442Dale |
Rain forecast from 11am tomorrow all the way through until the early hours of Saturday with more rain on and off from there on. |
The forecast for the 24hrs before and the day of the game is as bad - if not worse than last Monday/Tuesday - going off that then the presumption can only be game off. The pitch can't have improved if it was waterlogged - all we've had since is more rain/snow. |  |
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| Sheff United now all ticket on 07:52 - Mar 2 with 2241 views | aleanddale |
| Sheff United now all ticket on 07:22 - Mar 2 by 442Dale |
Rain forecast from 11am tomorrow all the way through until the early hours of Saturday with more rain on and off from there on. |
If we did not play on Tuesday I just can't see how Saturday will go ahead looking at the forecast...
The weather gods giving us a kick in the nuts at the moment. | | | |
| Sheff United now all ticket on 09:21 - Mar 2 with 2144 views | PDIDDY |
| Sheff United now all ticket on 07:48 - Mar 2 by dingdangblue |
The forecast for the 24hrs before and the day of the game is as bad - if not worse than last Monday/Tuesday - going off that then the presumption can only be game off. The pitch can't have improved if it was waterlogged - all we've had since is more rain/snow. |
A bit of aquaplaning to be had ✈ï¸âœˆï¸ |  |
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| Sheff United now all ticket on 09:24 - Mar 2 with 2141 views | pioneer |
| Sheff United now all ticket on 21:03 - Mar 1 by TVOS1907 |
Regardless of all that, what did you think of the £1 admission idea in the first place? |
A great idea andattempt to test the waters on pricing strategies. And fortunately not dressed up as a goodwill gesture. | | | |
| Sheff United now all ticket on 09:25 - Mar 2 with 2141 views | DaleiLama |
| Sheff United now all ticket on 21:00 - Mar 1 by pioneer |
I luv this 'goodwill gesture' crap - its a marketing strategy (and hooray to that - should be the same every week) given the pickle the postponement has left them in. Just say in an additional effort to boost attendence the charge has been removed.
Why do we have to dress stuff up into something it isn't? Do they think we were born yesterday? |
As the biggest opponent of the admin fee there is, I have some sympathy with your point and would agree they should just say the lines have been down, we can't sell tickets even to the people who had already turned up on Tuesday, let alone those saved from making the trip and we want the gate to be as big as possible on Saturday. Ironically, it now looks like that game won't go ahead either. The only reason the telephone admin fee exists is because they subbed the on-line ticketing out and the third party charges £1 for that "service", so the club shouldn't be seen to undercut that over the phone, except in exceptional circs, which they are saying this is.
Russ said in his interview that he wants the whole "customer interface" for buying to be a whole lot easier. I really hope that this means they will take on-line ticketing back in house and eliminate any fees to buy tickets - it's how it should be and we have the wherewithal to do this now surely? Marry this with a membership scheme/fan i.d. like Col suggested and it should make it a p-o-p for home fans to get tickets for any and every game. Pretty simple really? |  |
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| Sheff United now all ticket on 10:03 - Mar 2 with 2074 views | fitzochris |
As said previously - this game has been allocated as Exiles' Day. There will be people travelling from far and wide (and spending a lot of money in doing so) to attend.
Add to that a sell-out away end, and you would hope that if there is any doubt surrounding the pitch that it is communicated at the earliest opportunity. |  |
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| Sheff United now all ticket on 10:59 - Mar 2 with 1994 views | dingdangblue |
| Sheff United now all ticket on 10:03 - Mar 2 by fitzochris |
As said previously - this game has been allocated as Exiles' Day. There will be people travelling from far and wide (and spending a lot of money in doing so) to attend.
Add to that a sell-out away end, and you would hope that if there is any doubt surrounding the pitch that it is communicated at the earliest opportunity. |
All ticket has added a further problem now - are people going to buy a ticket if the club say the pitch is a worry and there will be an inspection? It would be nice however if the club make some sort of statement on the current state of the pitch? | |
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