| HS2 - QPR petition on 13:46 - Jun 11 with 1909 views | londonscottish |
Very interesting - our owners have big cojones. |  |
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| HS2 - QPR petition on 13:54 - Jun 11 with 1853 views | KerryE |
There is a lot of 'praying' in that petition - kind of 19th century/Dickensian language?
Why? |  | | |
| HS2 - QPR petition on 14:24 - Jun 11 with 1763 views | TheBlob |
| HS2 - QPR petition on 13:54 - Jun 11 by KerryE |
There is a lot of 'praying' in that petition - kind of 19th century/Dickensian language?
Why? |
Are we going back to steam?   |  |
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| HS2 - QPR petition on 14:55 - Jun 11 with 1688 views | WokingR |
Obviously written by Discodroid.... |  | | |
| HS2 - QPR petition on 14:56 - Jun 11 with 1686 views | MedwayR |
So in summary it seems that we have a lot of concerns regarding the planned transport links at Old Oak Common, would like various parts of the infrastructure development to be brought forward which makes sense & also aligns with the local authorities stance on us building a stadium there, and it also seems that we (QPR & Stadium Capital Holdings Ltd) already own substantial plots of land at Old Oak Common. |  |
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| HS2 - QPR petition on 15:38 - Jun 11 with 1618 views | qprnw10 |
Hs2 would be the icing on the cake, but i don't think it's a must. Willesden junction would be literally spitting distance from the stadium and Kensal Green station would only be a 10-15min walk.Compare that with some other London clubs and transport still ain't too bad for us. | | | |
| HS2 - QPR petition on 16:01 - Jun 11 with 1574 views | danehoop |
You start to get a feel for:
a. the ambition of the owners
b. the possible clout they may have
c. the importance attached to their plans oh having an HS2 link
d. serious deficiencies in current plans
Initially I thought a lot of this would be about getting preferential arrangements which might benefit the owners plans, but when you read into the detail the overwhelming majority of issues seems to be of benefit to wider community (e.g. cycle paths and walkways).
Wonder where our friends of Warren Farm are with this? |  |
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| HS2 - QPR petition on 18:16 - Jun 11 with 1419 views | derbyhoop |
Very detailed and carefully considered. I grew up inthat area and i couldn't recognise a lot of the issues. But it was a long time ago |  |
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| HS2 - QPR petition on 18:24 - Jun 11 with 1402 views | nadera78 |
All of the transport issues can be summed up in one sentence - making the 200 acre site as accessible as possible so that the 25,000 residential units are sold for the highest sum possible.
I get the impression they've added in the bits about Wormwood Scrubs because it keeps them onside with H&F Council and also combines with the other comments to present an image of a business that cares about the whole community. | | | |
| HS2 - QPR petition on 18:41 - Jun 11 with 1376 views | wombat |
| HS2 - QPR petition on 18:24 - Jun 11 by nadera78 |
All of the transport issues can be summed up in one sentence - making the 200 acre site as accessible as possible so that the 25,000 residential units are sold for the highest sum possible.
I get the impression they've added in the bits about Wormwood Scrubs because it keeps them onside with H&F Council and also combines with the other comments to present an image of a business that cares about the whole community. |
Prob in the minority but hope HS2 never happens in my lifetime , biggest waste if money this country has ever been involved in spending , on the back Of that it will of course scupper our plans for a new site on the proposed development as it seems to be dependent on the link being build at old oak but so be it |  |
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| HS2 - QPR petition on 18:47 - Jun 11 with 1364 views | barbicanranger |
Not great with legal stuff, but this reads to me like QPR and Stadium Holdings Co own land around this proposed site and wish to develop it in to a stadium. The government has come along and proposed the H2, which will run through this land and thus potentially scupper the plans of the the club, hence the petition. Is that right? Or is this simply a petition to seek modifications and expedition of the plans put forward? |  | | |
| HS2 - QPR petition on 19:07 - Jun 11 with 1333 views | CanadaRanger |
I am not a big fan of HS2. Given the cuts that have happened and are continuing, and the present status of the economy, and uncertainty regarding the economic impact an independent Scotland would have, and concerns from residents of my county of birth (Bucks), I would rather see the HS2 plans mothballed for 20 years.
However... I have visited conference centres in North America where the light rail line goes right into the buildings. Not sure how far the station is in Birmingham from the National Convention Centre, but similar idea. Having a rail link into QPR's stadium / commercial complex would be huge. There are, of course, somewhat more stressed security issues in the UK than in Canada which may require some separation of rail link and tall buildings. |  | | |
| HS2 - QPR petition on 19:52 - Jun 11 with 1259 views | nadera78 |
| HS2 - QPR petition on 18:41 - Jun 11 by wombat |
Prob in the minority but hope HS2 never happens in my lifetime , biggest waste if money this country has ever been involved in spending , on the back Of that it will of course scupper our plans for a new site on the proposed development as it seems to be dependent on the link being build at old oak but so be it |
Not alone at all. It's a criminal waste of cash, based on a flawed model and using incorrect data. In fact, it's actually an outdated concept - there's simply no need for face to face meetings except in exceptional circumstances. If businesses in New York and London can communicate over the internet I'm sure London to Birmingham isn't a problem.
We could spend a fraction of that 50Billion on greater broadband connections and pocket the rest. Or, if we're really bold, build four nuclear power stations which would give us control over our own energy supply for the first time in living memory and put a stop to Russian posturing.
But there are too many people set to make money out of this development and too many politicians who like the idea of leaving a legacy. | | | |
| HS2 - QPR petition on 20:04 - Jun 11 with 1221 views | RoundhayRanger |
Spot on. Just imagine what the internet will do for business in another 10 years, or whenever this great white elephant is finally built. | | | |
| HS2 - QPR petition on 20:11 - Jun 11 with 1204 views | danehoop |
| HS2 - QPR petition on 18:47 - Jun 11 by barbicanranger |
Not great with legal stuff, but this reads to me like QPR and Stadium Holdings Co own land around this proposed site and wish to develop it in to a stadium. The government has come along and proposed the H2, which will run through this land and thus potentially scupper the plans of the the club, hence the petition. Is that right? Or is this simply a petition to seek modifications and expedition of the plans put forward? |
I read it as modifications to known plans. The stadium strategy is I think based around gaining most advantage from the development around HS2. If they can achieve that then practicality of the investment increases and so does the potential value. | |
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