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Reply | Serious Disorder in Southport
at 16:29 1 Aug 2024
I will tell you why terrorism comes to mind. And that's because they didn't say it was because of anything else. If it was someone with schizophrenia, then tell the public, to prevent attacks on mosques and innocent people. I think you are getting me wrong. If it's not announced that it was mental health, than what else could it be apart from terrorism? The point is, I am thinking it, but I won't go and riot, I am.just asking the question. Others though, will think it and also harm others. My point is that if it isn't terrorism, (its reasonable to think it's a possibility imo), than announce what it is, to prevent all the chaos that has happened afterwards. If its a mental health patient who.should have been being looked after, I think it's within the public interest and safety to.know about it. But they are keeping quiet, it makes me wonder why. If you don't wonder why that's fine, I do. And yes I wonder if it's terror related as a possibility as it's happened before. [Post edited 1 Aug 16:32]
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Reply | Serious Disorder in Southport
at 15:20 1 Aug 2024
But after the random murders of innocent children, people are naturally going to ask why. Do you not wonder why he did it? Let's not pretend that the questions I posed weren't on other people's mind too, because they were. It didnt need me to raise them for idiots to decide that the answer was to riot. They had the same questions and thoughts anyway (or were using it an opportunity to riot). But there is a genuine concern about the rising levels of knife crime and disorder at the moment. And if children dancing innocently in the street can be killed in broad daylight, it is obviously going to raise questions. The terrorist thing is always a question, as the Manchester arena and various other incidents, that involved multiple murders were terror related. So ofcourse it comes to mind. [Post edited 1 Aug 15:22]
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Reply | Serious Disorder in Southport
at 14:50 1 Aug 2024
Yes the U.K legal system makes an exception to the rule about under 18's being named because as I said earlier in the thread, it had to. There is a wider interest to the public in this case about the safety of our children, in the fact that this was a random attack on innocent children for no apparent reason. In that case people, especially.those who have lost their kids have a right to know what the motivation was for this and I would argue those who have kids or anyone, would want to know too.There is a debate to be had about those "known to the authorities" and how tragedies should be prevented. |
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Reply | Serious Disorder in Southport
at 13:13 1 Aug 2024
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/cydvr9d0vd3t
Common sense prevails. Suspect named. There are some situations where public interest and security should be put before one individual's rights. Misinformation could cause serious disorder. He was known to the authorities and social services. The authorities are certainly on tender hooks about the criticism which will be coming their way. [Post edited 1 Aug 13:28]
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Reply | Serious Disorder in Southport
at 23:26 30 Jul 2024
And seriously he's 17 but will be locked up for life, what does it matter. I think more the truth is that many rumours are circulating that he was known to the authorities, so they can't release his name. The powers that be are desperately working out what to say to the public about a child killer that they should have been tracking. People will need to know the reason for this. As it stands, many parents will be too scared to send their children to school and the rest of it. [Post edited 30 Jul 23:28]
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Reply | Serious Disorder in Southport
at 23:02 30 Jul 2024
It's very sad. And then further on the news the two wars going on, seemingly going round in circles, no clear winners, just death. As a parent, it's quite shocking to me what's happened in Southport in broad daylight. They'll be having children put in steel cages for schools and clubs etc. What has the world come to. |
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Reply | Serious Disorder in Southport
at 22:45 30 Jul 2024
Yep, but the authorities will need to address a deeper panic in the public, in that its not safe for kids to enjoy a party in the street. People need to know why this happened in my opinion or it won't settle and parents will start exaggerating how unsafe their children are. [Post edited 30 Jul 22:46]
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Reply | Serious Disorder in Southport
at 22:31 30 Jul 2024
I'm not sure I agree that in this case, a multiple child murderer should have any rights and people.do not need tomknow his name just why. Did he have a mental health issue, is he a terrorist. Its not my business, but I would argue it's the right of the families in Southport who have lost their kids to know why this happened. And then arguably for the good of the country, people need to know why to stop any theories about him being a terrorist. The silence makes people think he is one, and therefore giving the EDL an excuse. Silence is not helping in my.opinion. |
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Reply | Serious Disorder in Southport
at 22:20 30 Jul 2024
Absolutely. But keeping quiet isn't helping. Children were murdered. People want to know why. Who was this terrible monster who did it? |
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Reply | Serious Disorder in Southport
at 22:17 30 Jul 2024
Understandably, people are angry. The streets aren't safe, there are many tensions in the country and the lack of information about why this happened is making people even more angry. As I said the murder of children in broad daylight is evoking emotional responses across the country. This could develop unfortunately. People want answers. Was the killer on the radar. Was he a terrorist? People want to know I guess. [Post edited 30 Jul 22:18]
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Reply | Serious Disorder in Southport
at 22:09 30 Jul 2024
That doesn't surprise me. It's a major incident, a horrible event when involves the murder of children. It's all terrible. |
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Thread | Serious Disorder in Southport
at 21:54 30 Jul 2024
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2024/07/30/southport-attack-live-children-injur
All kicking off in Southport and in other parts of the country. This could unfortunately develop. A terrible tragedy, related to Islamist terrorist apparently. Mosques being attacked across the country. Its being kept quiet, but the killer is apparently a Muslim but the lack of information is not helping. National Front far right jumping on the bandwagon. The community wants answers.. [Post edited 30 Jul 22:07]
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Reply | What the hell
at 23:08 29 Jul 2024
Mx is "used for people who identify as neither male nor female, or people who simply don't want to be identified based on their gender". I wanted to know what they are calling me, so just looked it up!
Neither male or female, ha, what are we then!!! All of this is just bonkers. Congratulations madame, sir, Mx, lady or just thing, you have just given birth to a baby erm, not not sure, it's both, don't know, I think it's a horse. What a load a nonsense. [Post edited 29 Jul 23:19]
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