| Commitment to Human Rights Act may mean IRA terrorists are paid damages 10:02 - Jan 15 with 699 views | AnotherJohn |
Government plans to repeal sections of the Northern Ireland Troubles Act 2023 may mean that IRA members can claim damages for internment paid by the tax payer. Experts say this could cost us millions.
'Hilary Benn, the Northern Ireland Secretary, said that the decision to repeal the law underlined “the Government’s absolute commitment to the Human Rights Act”.'
https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/uknews/pm-to-pay-damages-to-gerry-adams/ar-BB1rsw [Post edited 15 Jan 10:17]
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| Commitment to Human Rights Act may mean IRA terrorists are paid damages on 10:06 - Jan 15 with 689 views | Luther27 |
Why am I not surprised by this. People have forgotten the horrors these terrorists put us the general public through.
Little changes no one notices like try and find a bin to dump your rubbish in Paddington station. There aren’t any….check out why. | | | |
| Commitment to Human Rights Act may mean IRA terrorists are paid damages on 10:13 - Jan 15 with 682 views | onehunglow |
| Commitment to Human Rights Act may mean IRA terrorists are paid damages on 10:06 - Jan 15 by Luther27 |
Why am I not surprised by this. People have forgotten the horrors these terrorists put us the general public through.
Little changes no one notices like try and find a bin to dump your rubbish in Paddington station. There aren’t any….check out why. |
Yes,it’s the nasty Brits again
God,were awful aren’t we. | |
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| Commitment to Human Rights Act may mean IRA terrorists are paid damages on 11:07 - Jan 15 with 652 views | majorraglan |
From what I can see it’s more complex than the headline suggests and the headlines are half a story with an anti Labour twist from the Telegraph.
The government’s hand has been forced after the Northern Ireland High Court ruled that the 2023 Northern Ireland Troubles Act was incompatible will the Human Rights Act following legislation which was initiated in the Northern Ireland Court. There are several historical cases which have lead up to this (mainly lost by our government) which eventually resulted in the last government introducing legislation which wouldn’t stand the test of scrutiny.
I’m not for 1 minute in favour of paying Adam’s and his ilk or the loyalists on the other side any compo, but I do believe in the rule of law whether I like the decisions or not.
It’s time to revisit the HRA and tweak it so it can’t be abused. | | | |
| Commitment to Human Rights Act may mean IRA terrorists are paid damages on 11:48 - Jan 15 with 629 views | AnotherJohn |
| Commitment to Human Rights Act may mean IRA terrorists are paid damages on 11:07 - Jan 15 by majorraglan |
From what I can see it’s more complex than the headline suggests and the headlines are half a story with an anti Labour twist from the Telegraph.
The government’s hand has been forced after the Northern Ireland High Court ruled that the 2023 Northern Ireland Troubles Act was incompatible will the Human Rights Act following legislation which was initiated in the Northern Ireland Court. There are several historical cases which have lead up to this (mainly lost by our government) which eventually resulted in the last government introducing legislation which wouldn’t stand the test of scrutiny.
I’m not for 1 minute in favour of paying Adam’s and his ilk or the loyalists on the other side any compo, but I do believe in the rule of law whether I like the decisions or not.
It’s time to revisit the HRA and tweak it so it can’t be abused. |
So is the best way forward to amend the HRA rather than the Northern Ireland Troubles Act? | | | |
| Commitment to Human Rights Act may mean IRA terrorists are paid damages on 12:18 - Jan 15 with 605 views | majorraglan |
| Commitment to Human Rights Act may mean IRA terrorists are paid damages on 11:48 - Jan 15 by AnotherJohn |
So is the best way forward to amend the HRA rather than the Northern Ireland Troubles Act? |
The NI Troubles Act is “illegal” and looks dead in the water, I suspect the same principles, even if applied in some kind of new legislation will still fall foul of of the NI High Court ruling.
We Gould change the HR Act to address other things we aren’t happy about, such as not being able to deport criminals etc. | | | |
| Commitment to Human Rights Act may mean IRA terrorists are paid damages on 13:47 - Jan 15 with 549 views | felixstowe_jack |
Wonder if family members of victims of IRA terrorism can now sue the IRA members who get cash payments. | |
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| Commitment to Human Rights Act may mean IRA terrorists are paid damages on 14:01 - Jan 15 with 532 views | Boundy |
"The legal basis for this decision stems from a controversial Supreme Court ruling that overturned the established Carltona principle. This principle allowed powers conferred on a secretary of state to be exercised by others, such as a Minister of State, ensuring the efficient functioning of government. The Supreme Court's judgment in the case of R v Adams disrupted this long-standing precedent and opened the door for claims of wrongful imprisonment by individuals like Adams"
Why has this government been so quick to p++s off so many in so little time , pensioners, farmers, employers it seems everyone .The PO scandal for example where innocent and vindicated innocent sub post masters still waiting to be recompensed ,now we have another decision by Starmer to allow terrorists to claim yet more money form us the tax payer , I wonder if that's been fully costed because it wasn't mentioned in their manifesto. I stand corrected it is in their manifesto in that they were looking to repealing the Legacy and Reconciliation Act.
https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/uknews/congratulations-keir-starmer-you-can-add-i [Post edited 15 Jan 14:08]
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| Commitment to Human Rights Act may mean IRA terrorists are paid damages on 15:47 - Jan 15 with 471 views | AnotherJohn |
The law bearing on this topic is complex and may be further contested. It seems that Starmer is exploring other ways to block civil proceedings in pursuit of compensation, which had been prohibited by the Legacy Act in a way that the NI High Court ruled was incompatible with the Windsor Agreement and the ECHR. It isn't yet clear that this court judgement will set a principle on this matter that cannot be overturned. This is the Policy Exchange's take on the judgement.
https://policyexchange.org.uk/publication/misjudging-parliaments-reversal-of-the [Post edited 15 Jan 18:24]
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| Commitment to Human Rights Act may mean IRA terrorists are paid damages on 17:59 - Jan 15 with 408 views | Kilkennyjack |
| Commitment to Human Rights Act may mean IRA terrorists are paid damages on 10:13 - Jan 15 by onehunglow |
Yes,it’s the nasty Brits again
God,were awful aren’t we. |
Well its not a Brits thing, its a Tory thing.
At the time the BBC said ‘ The controversial act has been opposed by victims' groups and all the main political parties in Northern Ireland - while the UK government maintains the law is human rights compliant and draws a line under the past’.
All the political parties in NI opposed this load of Tory bs.
Victims groups also opposed this Bill. |  |
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| Commitment to Human Rights Act may mean IRA terrorists are paid damages on 18:12 - Jan 15 with 388 views | onehunglow |
| Commitment to Human Rights Act may mean IRA terrorists are paid damages on 17:59 - Jan 15 by Kilkennyjack |
Well its not a Brits thing, its a Tory thing.
At the time the BBC said ‘ The controversial act has been opposed by victims' groups and all the main political parties in Northern Ireland - while the UK government maintains the law is human rights compliant and draws a line under the past’.
All the political parties in NI opposed this load of Tory bs.
Victims groups also opposed this Bill. |
Labour first send in the troops
They stayed as the Irish were butchering each other | |
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| Commitment to Human Rights Act may mean IRA terrorists are paid damages on 18:33 - Jan 15 with 373 views | Kilkennyjack |
| Commitment to Human Rights Act may mean IRA terrorists are paid damages on 18:12 - Jan 15 by onehunglow |
Labour first send in the troops
They stayed as the Irish were butchering each other |
But factually the Tories raised this bill that nobody supported.
Incompetent and unfit to govern - which is why they were thrown out in disgrace. | |
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| Commitment to Human Rights Act may mean IRA terrorists are paid damages on 09:25 - Jan 16 with 303 views | felixstowe_jack |
| Commitment to Human Rights Act may mean IRA terrorists are paid damages on 18:33 - Jan 15 by Kilkennyjack |
But factually the Tories raised this bill that nobody supported.
Incompetent and unfit to govern - which is why they were thrown out in disgrace. |
Still no answer from you about the IRA and Sinn Fein providing money to compensate the families of victims the murdered or maimed. | |
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| Commitment to Human Rights Act may mean IRA terrorists are paid damages on 10:48 - Jan 16 with 271 views | onehunglow |
| Commitment to Human Rights Act may mean IRA terrorists are paid damages on 18:33 - Jan 15 by Kilkennyjack |
But factually the Tories raised this bill that nobody supported.
Incompetent and unfit to govern - which is why they were thrown out in disgrace. |
Callaghan sent the troops i
I actually remember the day
Trouble is this part of the Union is split on religious lines .Still.
We really should not have filled the province with Scottish Protestant dregs to keep it British .
Ideally, a land we should have let go and let them get on with it .
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| Commitment to Human Rights Act may mean IRA terrorists are paid damages on 14:47 - Jan 16 with 189 views | Kilkennyjack |
| Commitment to Human Rights Act may mean IRA terrorists are paid damages on 10:48 - Jan 16 by onehunglow |
Callaghan sent the troops i
I actually remember the day
Trouble is this part of the Union is split on religious lines .Still.
We really should not have filled the province with Scottish Protestant dregs to keep it British .
Ideally, a land we should have let go and let them get on with it .
Omagh
Who did it |
Our fellow Cymro, David Lloyd George ,devised the partition of Ireland.
A failure with a global profile. | |
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| Commitment to Human Rights Act may mean IRA terrorists are paid damages on 16:12 - Jan 16 with 148 views | onehunglow |
| Commitment to Human Rights Act may mean IRA terrorists are paid damages on 14:47 - Jan 16 by Kilkennyjack |
Our fellow Cymro, David Lloyd George ,devised the partition of Ireland.
A failure with a global profile. |
I know.
Can’t really disagree.
Gog ,see. | |
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| Commitment to Human Rights Act may mean IRA terrorists are paid damages on 17:22 - Jan 16 with 130 views | AnotherJohn |
| Commitment to Human Rights Act may mean IRA terrorists are paid damages on 16:12 - Jan 16 by onehunglow |
I know.
Can’t really disagree.
Gog ,see. |
Another lawyer PM, although apparently the only one so far to have practiced as a solicitor rather than a barrister. A Gog who was born in Manchester, but whose first language was Welsh. | | | |
| Commitment to Human Rights Act may mean IRA terrorists are paid damages on 17:44 - Jan 16 with 110 views | SullutaCreturned |
No terrorist should get any compensation, they already got a free pass for all that murdering.
Gerry Adams, as far as I'm concerned proof has been provided that he was part of it and there should be a way to legally prevent him from claiming any compo. If there's not then it's yet more proof the world is screwed. | | | |
| Commitment to Human Rights Act may mean IRA terrorists are paid damages on 18:55 - Jan 16 with 72 views | onehunglow |
| Commitment to Human Rights Act may mean IRA terrorists are paid damages on 17:44 - Jan 16 by SullutaCreturned |
No terrorist should get any compensation, they already got a free pass for all that murdering.
Gerry Adams, as far as I'm concerned proof has been provided that he was part of it and there should be a way to legally prevent him from claiming any compo. If there's not then it's yet more proof the world is screwed. |
A terrorist and one along with much missed Marty Mac ,who made sure the British filth suffered for the sins of our fathers . This included the likes of lovely lads like Tim Parry,out with his mum and day shopping .
Yeah,real warriors wee sein fein IRA | |
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