| Anybody still of the opinion that it was all Russell Martin’s fault ? 17:26 - Dec 29 with 3057 views | saintmark1976 |
New manager:- 3 games, 1 point from a possible 9 and only 1 goal scored.
Rather looks to me very similar form to our previous manager’s record.
I’ve said it consistently, the majority of the blame for our current league position lies with our owners and the absolute incompetent doughnuts they employ, who amongst other bizarre decisions, thought it a good idea to extend Armstrong’s contract and purchase cast off Championship and Premiership forwards to assist him.
In truth we were effectively relegated before a ball was kicked with or without Martin or the new manager.
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| Anybody still of the opinion that it was all Russell Martin’s fault ? on 17:29 - Dec 29 with 2342 views | Southamptonfan |
Totally agree. I think this manager has improved things, but the thrashings will start again, once the players give up again, when they look at the league table.
The players aren't good enough. These managers are trying to do this job with their hands tied behind their backs.
I remember saying the same thing when Ralph was sacked. The team was useless then and it's useless now. Was that really 3 years ago? [Post edited 29 Dec 2024 17:34]
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| Anybody still of the opinion that it was all Russell Martin’s fault ? on 17:40 - Dec 29 with 2297 views | Flamingbankers |
Him and SR. SR are ultimately the source of all decisions made.
Martin's football was dreadful and so was everything else. He was shyte; end of story. At least Juric wants to attack and put teams under pressure and actually the stats prove that. Juric's stats will definitely improve by the end of the season.
Agree our players just aren't good enough and it's SR's fault: they're the real reason our team isn't as good as it should be.
SR should have sacked Martin in the summer and brought in a more capable, experienced manager. I'm pretty sure quite a few managers would have done a better job. Martin's failings are glaringly obvious to the most casual of football supporters.
Let's see how Martin does in his next jog, I mean job, in the lower divisions. | |
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| Anybody still of the opinion that it was all Russell Martin’s fault ? on 17:53 - Dec 29 with 2253 views | saintpaz |
I'd still rather Juric over Martin anyday though. Martin was just the icing on the cake with his naive football |  | | |
| Anybody still of the opinion that it was all Russell Martin’s fault ? on 18:05 - Dec 29 with 2194 views | dirk_doone |
I'm running out of people to blame. I'm beginning to think it must be my fault. |  |
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| Anybody still of the opinion that it was all Russell Martin’s fault ? on 18:09 - Dec 29 with 2172 views | grumpy |
| Anybody still of the opinion that it was all Russell Martin’s fault ? on 18:05 - Dec 29 by dirk_doone |
I'm running out of people to blame. I'm beginning to think it must be my fault. |
That's what I love about the British,we always find humour in adversity.  |  | | |
| Anybody still of the opinion that it was all Russell Martin’s fault ? on 18:29 - Dec 29 with 2090 views | kernow |
| Anybody still of the opinion that it was all Russell Martin’s fault ? on 18:09 - Dec 29 by grumpy |
That's what I love about the British,we always find humour in adversity. |
This fan never had the opinion that it was all the manager’s fault. | | | |
| Anybody still of the opinion that it was all Russell Martin’s fault ? on 18:42 - Dec 29 with 2052 views | saintmark1976 |
| Anybody still of the opinion that it was all Russell Martin’s fault ? on 18:29 - Dec 29 by kernow |
This fan never had the opinion that it was all the manager’s fault. |
Fair play kernow.
I can’t help but notice that it’s all gone quite on here this evening with little input from the Christmas pantomime villain abusers. | |
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| Anybody still of the opinion that it was all Russell Martin’s fault ? on 18:45 - Dec 29 with 2030 views | saintwizzler |
Sport Republic have fúcked this club.
Spending £98m all well and good but on 7 players!
Substandard purchases.
Even this new manager was free. |  |
| We thought that we had the answers,
It was the questions we had wrong. |
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| Anybody still of the opinion that it was all Russell Martin’s fault ? on 18:46 - Dec 29 with 2025 views | Bridders2 |
Well 9 goals conceded from silly errors passing around the back means we would probably have another 5 or 6 points and still been in contention, which means that yes, it was still RMs fault.
BUT also the fault of our crap board, who have made all the wrong calls over 3 years too. What a shambles. | | | |
| Anybody still of the opinion that it was all Russell Martin’s fault ? on 18:48 - Dec 29 with 2017 views | MytchettSaint |
| Anybody still of the opinion that it was all Russell Martin’s fault ? on 18:42 - Dec 29 by saintmark1976 |
Fair play kernow.
I can’t help but notice that it’s all gone quite on here this evening with little input from the Christmas pantomime villain abusers. |
Martin was part of the problem. I’ve said elsewhere, getting in a new manager shouldn’t let Sports Republic off the hook. |  |
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| Anybody still of the opinion that it was all Russell Martin’s fault ? on 18:51 - Dec 29 with 1987 views | A1079 |
As I think I said in a previous thread regarding RM, I don't think it was all his fault at all and to be fair he should be respected for what he did post our last relegation and the promotion we achieved albeit via the back door of the play-offs. What RM has to accept responsibility for was his steadfast refusal to try any new tactics or adapt to the changing situation in games, opposition etc which ultimately led to his downfall.
I suppose what is now being shown is that even with a change of manager and change of tactics there is little likelihood that our fortunes are going to change. In fact, for the life of me I cannot even see where we will get our next point let alone a win. The squad is so far away from being able to compete at this level and in that respect you have to question SR because it was suicidal to go into the PL with this squad without purchasing some experience especially up front..
I cannot help but feel that the season is over/written off, if indeed it ever started. All that is left is whether Brentford can break their failure to win away this forthcoming weekend - you wouldn't bet against it, would you? After that, what will be the motivation for fans to turn up and what will be the motivation for the players to risk injuries etc for what is now an inevitable outcome. As regards RM or Juric - we will never know whether they would have been good enough if they had a squad that could compete at this level. | | | |
| Anybody still of the opinion that it was all Russell Martin’s fault ? on 18:52 - Dec 29 with 1984 views | grumpy |
We have paid the price for leaving it too late to replace Martin. | | | |
| Anybody still of the opinion that it was all Russell Martin’s fault ? on 19:04 - Dec 29 with 1921 views | A1079 |
| Anybody still of the opinion that it was all Russell Martin’s fault ? on 18:52 - Dec 29 by grumpy |
We have paid the price for leaving it too late to replace Martin. |
Don't disagree with that grumpy. He should have gone probably around the Leicester game but I think he deserved to be given the chance. I still believe that with this squad relegation was the likely outcome whoever was in charge but I did think we would have more points and be in the fight into the new year. | | | |
| Anybody still of the opinion that it was all Russell Martin’s fault ? on 19:04 - Dec 29 with 1921 views | Southamptonfan |
| Anybody still of the opinion that it was all Russell Martin’s fault ? on 18:52 - Dec 29 by grumpy |
We have paid the price for leaving it too late to replace Martin. |
That's Sport Republic for you. They like to keep making mistakes. | |
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| Anybody still of the opinion that it was all Russell Martin’s fault ? on 19:19 - Dec 29 with 1866 views | saintwizzler |
| Anybody still of the opinion that it was all Russell Martin’s fault ? on 19:04 - Dec 29 by A1079 |
Don't disagree with that grumpy. He should have gone probably around the Leicester game but I think he deserved to be given the chance. I still believe that with this squad relegation was the likely outcome whoever was in charge but I did think we would have more points and be in the fight into the new year. |
But apparently we have good players and it was all Russell Martin’s fault. | |
| We thought that we had the answers,
It was the questions we had wrong. |
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| Anybody still of the opinion that it was all Russell Martin’s fault ? on 19:38 - Dec 29 with 1822 views | A_Saint_in_Stoke |
| Anybody still of the opinion that it was all Russell Martin’s fault ? on 18:51 - Dec 29 by A1079 |
As I think I said in a previous thread regarding RM, I don't think it was all his fault at all and to be fair he should be respected for what he did post our last relegation and the promotion we achieved albeit via the back door of the play-offs. What RM has to accept responsibility for was his steadfast refusal to try any new tactics or adapt to the changing situation in games, opposition etc which ultimately led to his downfall.
I suppose what is now being shown is that even with a change of manager and change of tactics there is little likelihood that our fortunes are going to change. In fact, for the life of me I cannot even see where we will get our next point let alone a win. The squad is so far away from being able to compete at this level and in that respect you have to question SR because it was suicidal to go into the PL with this squad without purchasing some experience especially up front..
I cannot help but feel that the season is over/written off, if indeed it ever started. All that is left is whether Brentford can break their failure to win away this forthcoming weekend - you wouldn't bet against it, would you? After that, what will be the motivation for fans to turn up and what will be the motivation for the players to risk injuries etc for what is now an inevitable outcome. As regards RM or Juric - we will never know whether they would have been good enough if they had a squad that could compete at this level. |
I am with you with all your valid points , I still have a glimmer of hope providing we get at least a point from the Brentford game, RM was toooo stubborn to change anything ! | |
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| Anybody still of the opinion that it was all Russell Martin’s fault ? on 19:56 - Dec 29 with 1725 views | Southamptonfan |
| Anybody still of the opinion that it was all Russell Martin’s fault ? on 19:19 - Dec 29 by saintwizzler |
But apparently we have good players and it was all Russell Martin’s fault. |
It's like the shock, when Ralph left and when Jones left that we continued to be sh!t. Anyone would think we just don't invest in top quality players for this league. 😲
I dunno, these managers (all 50 of them) just can't seem to get it right. 😕 [Post edited 29 Dec 2024 19:58]
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| Anybody still of the opinion that it was all Russell Martin’s fault ? on 21:16 - Dec 29 with 1561 views | Centurion |
What the hell happened at Villa Park a couple of years ago (March 2022)?
It all stems from that day. | | | |
| Anybody still of the opinion that it was all Russell Martin’s fault ? on 21:35 - Dec 29 with 1500 views | UlsterBaz |
| Anybody still of the opinion that it was all Russell Martin’s fault ? on 21:16 - Dec 29 by Centurion |
What the hell happened at Villa Park a couple of years ago (March 2022)?
It all stems from that day. |
Haha, was there that day. I thought I’d erased it from my old memory banks. |  | | |
| Anybody still of the opinion that it was all Russell Martin’s fault ? on 22:31 - Dec 29 with 1412 views | saintwizzler |
| Anybody still of the opinion that it was all Russell Martin’s fault ? on 21:35 - Dec 29 by UlsterBaz |
Haha, was there that day. I thought I’d erased it from my old memory banks. |
The day Hasenhüttl gave up and was waiting for the sack. | |
| We thought that we had the answers,
It was the questions we had wrong. |
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| Anybody still of the opinion that it was all Russell Martin’s fault ? on 03:10 - Dec 30 with 1196 views | Chesham_Saint |
Yes - I’d lay much at his door. He chose the players and the tactics and the new guy has to cope with that legacy. In short, Rylan was second rate. |  |
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| Anybody still of the opinion that it was all Russell Martin’s fault ? on 08:01 - Dec 30 with 1068 views | City_boy |
Blimey are we really judging Juric after 1 week and 2 narrow defeats ? We have created more in those 2 games than Martin's teams created all season. I accept that many of the team may not be good enough at this level and we are paying the price for some very poor signings, but at least we look like we can score and create chances to get something out of the game.
Martin was on some personal ego trip. Watching how his teams set up and his obsession with possession with players that weren't good enough to play that way, was all down to Martin.
It was painful to watch, just waiting for us to give a goal away from messing around with the ball at the back. | | | |
| Anybody still of the opinion that it was all Russell Martin’s fault ? on 10:41 - Dec 30 with 919 views | GRIM |
| Anybody still of the opinion that it was all Russell Martin’s fault ? on 08:01 - Dec 30 by City_boy |
Blimey are we really judging Juric after 1 week and 2 narrow defeats ? We have created more in those 2 games than Martin's teams created all season. I accept that many of the team may not be good enough at this level and we are paying the price for some very poor signings, but at least we look like we can score and create chances to get something out of the game.
Martin was on some personal ego trip. Watching how his teams set up and his obsession with possession with players that weren't good enough to play that way, was all down to Martin.
It was painful to watch, just waiting for us to give a goal away from messing around with the ball at the back. |
Far too early to start criticising Ivan Juric.
He can only work with the squad of players he's got.
But I do like the fact that he's giving everyone a chance with no favourites.
ABK back in contention Tall Paul getting games & more to the point no sign of Slack Jack, not been involved since finishing his suspension.
But the bottom line us there is not a manager on the planet that can get the required results with the limitations of the squad. | | | |
| Anybody still of the opinion that it was all Russell Martin’s fault ? on 10:52 - Dec 30 with 890 views | saintwizzler |
| Anybody still of the opinion that it was all Russell Martin’s fault ? on 10:41 - Dec 30 by GRIM |
Far too early to start criticising Ivan Juric.
He can only work with the squad of players he's got.
But I do like the fact that he's giving everyone a chance with no favourites.
ABK back in contention Tall Paul getting games & more to the point no sign of Slack Jack, not been involved since finishing his suspension.
But the bottom line us there is not a manager on the planet that can get the required results with the limitations of the squad. |
Jack Stephens picked up an injury in training. | |
| We thought that we had the answers,
It was the questions we had wrong. |
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| Anybody still of the opinion that it was all Russell Martin’s fault ? on 10:54 - Dec 30 with 877 views | TripleNiemi |
| Anybody still of the opinion that it was all Russell Martin’s fault ? on 03:10 - Dec 30 by Chesham_Saint |
Yes - I’d lay much at his door. He chose the players and the tactics and the new guy has to cope with that legacy. In short, Rylan was second rate. |
You are overrating him to be honest
Sport Republic / Rasmus Out [Post edited 30 Dec 2024 10:55]
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