| Swansea City : Is this worrying or positive ? on 18:20 - Oct 3 with 2017 views | max936 |
Another decent writeup, regarding the Leadership issue, we haven't had decent leadership on the field of play for probably the last 3 season's, Grimes doesn't do it so there's no one, for the ownership to leave Williams without any viable backups at Centre Half and up front is scandalous, that's not down to Coleman it can't be after he made those promises, it comes yet again from Levien and maybe Kaplan.
Williams suggested that they were looking at the Free market, but nothing seems to be developing from that, again that's down to Levien it has to be! [Post edited 3 Oct 18:22]
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| Swansea City : Is this worrying or positive ? on 18:37 - Oct 3 with 1978 views | KeithHaynes |
| Swansea City : Is this worrying or positive ? on 18:20 - Oct 3 by max936 |
Another decent writeup, regarding the Leadership issue, we haven't had decent leadership on the field of play for probably the last 3 season's, Grimes doesn't do it so there's no one, for the ownership to leave Williams without any viable backups at Centre Half and up front is scandalous, that's not down to Coleman it can't be after he made those promises, it comes yet again from Levien and maybe Kaplan.
Williams suggested that they were looking at the Free market, but nothing seems to be developing from that, again that's down to Levien it has to be! [Post edited 3 Oct 18:22]
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All we know mate is that the three players they looked at wanted huge salaries. |  |
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| Swansea City : Is this worrying or positive ? on 18:53 - Oct 3 with 1951 views | max936 |
| Swansea City : Is this worrying or positive ? on 18:37 - Oct 3 by KeithHaynes |
All we know mate is that the three players they looked at wanted huge salaries. |
They obviously didn't really want to come here then or put themselves back on the football equivalent shop floor and window and they not earning a penny now, they obviously can afford not to.
Oh Well! | |
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| Swansea City : Is this worrying or positive ? on 19:03 - Oct 3 with 1919 views | KeithHaynes |
| Swansea City : Is this worrying or positive ? on 18:53 - Oct 3 by max936 |
They obviously didn't really want to come here then or put themselves back on the football equivalent shop floor and window and they not earning a penny now, they obviously can afford not to.
Oh Well! |
I assume they had better offers. | |
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| Swansea City : Is this worrying or positive ? on 19:04 - Oct 3 with 1915 views | vetchonian |
| Swansea City : Is this worrying or positive ? on 18:37 - Oct 3 by KeithHaynes |
All we know mate is that the three players they looked at wanted huge salaries. |
sums up footballers today....but that said ....is this from the players or their agents? |  |
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| Swansea City : Is this worrying or positive ? on 19:26 - Oct 3 with 1853 views | KeithHaynes |
| Swansea City : Is this worrying or positive ? on 19:04 - Oct 3 by vetchonian |
sums up footballers today....but that said ....is this from the players or their agents? |
Our best sources are agents, it’s taken a few years to earn their trust, but now they can see the way we go about things so it’s all good. | |
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| Swansea City : Is this worrying or positive ? on 19:28 - Oct 3 with 1841 views | vetchonian |
| Swansea City : Is this worrying or positive ? on 19:26 - Oct 3 by KeithHaynes |
Our best sources are agents, it’s taken a few years to earn their trust, but now they can see the way we go about things so it’s all good. |
i was referring to the driver for the size of wedge more than the source Keith.
For me agents have ruined football driving greed | |
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| Swansea City : Is this worrying or positive ? on 19:32 - Oct 3 with 1831 views | KeithHaynes |
| Swansea City : Is this worrying or positive ? on 19:28 - Oct 3 by vetchonian |
i was referring to the driver for the size of wedge more than the source Keith.
For me agents have ruined football driving greed |
It’s how it works now mate, there’s massive money for them now, even if they have a handful of non league players there’s percentages from wages they have each week. There’s one guy I know who gets a knock back on a national league player just to endorse a well known breakfast cereal. | |
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| Swansea City : Is this worrying or positive ? on 19:56 - Oct 3 with 1781 views | vetchonian |
| Swansea City : Is this worrying or positive ? on 19:32 - Oct 3 by KeithHaynes |
It’s how it works now mate, there’s massive money for them now, even if they have a handful of non league players there’s percentages from wages they have each week. There’s one guy I know who gets a knock back on a national league player just to endorse a well known breakfast cereal. |
and its killing the game Keith.....thank you Mr Murdich and Sky. | |
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| Swansea City : Is this worrying or positive ? on 20:02 - Oct 3 with 1774 views | KeithHaynes |
| Swansea City : Is this worrying or positive ? on 19:56 - Oct 3 by vetchonian |
and its killing the game Keith.....thank you Mr Murdich and Sky. |
We can’t go back sadly, the only alternative is watching non league football. I subscribe to ‘Bunch of amateurs’ on you tube, it’s basically Dorking wanderers and their enigmatic manager Marc. It’s an excellent programme each week. There’s a big Swans link too.
Interview to come. | |
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| Swansea City : Is this worrying or positive ? on 13:07 - Oct 4 with 1512 views | ReslovenSwan1 |
Swansea have more than enough young strikers in the books all of whom were rated by the recruitment team.
Yates, Kukharevych, Peart Harris, Vipotnik, Kyrell Wilson and Cullen.
Of the six Williams only trust one Cullen who he calls a true Jack. Vipotnik has the right profile and needs "developing". This means game time and patience.
If these guys are not right and are ignored then Watson or Williams needs to be dismissed. Cullen improvements are very minor and cannot bully strong defenses. He needs a strong arm alongside him. The goal v Bristol shows his reactions are sharp if a bruiser can create chaos and a flashing gap. |  |
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| Swansea City : Is this worrying or positive ? on 13:49 - Oct 4 with 1455 views | onehunglow |
| Swansea City : Is this worrying or positive ? on 13:07 - Oct 4 by ReslovenSwan1 |
Swansea have more than enough young strikers in the books all of whom were rated by the recruitment team.
Yates, Kukharevych, Peart Harris, Vipotnik, Kyrell Wilson and Cullen.
Of the six Williams only trust one Cullen who he calls a true Jack. Vipotnik has the right profile and needs "developing". This means game time and patience.
If these guys are not right and are ignored then Watson or Williams needs to be dismissed. Cullen improvements are very minor and cannot bully strong defenses. He needs a strong arm alongside him. The goal v Bristol shows his reactions are sharp if a bruiser can create chaos and a flashing gap. |
Good post that | |
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| Swansea City : Is this worrying or positive ? on 14:05 - Oct 4 with 1420 views | Whiterockin |
| Swansea City : Is this worrying or positive ? on 13:07 - Oct 4 by ReslovenSwan1 |
Swansea have more than enough young strikers in the books all of whom were rated by the recruitment team.
Yates, Kukharevych, Peart Harris, Vipotnik, Kyrell Wilson and Cullen.
Of the six Williams only trust one Cullen who he calls a true Jack. Vipotnik has the right profile and needs "developing". This means game time and patience.
If these guys are not right and are ignored then Watson or Williams needs to be dismissed. Cullen improvements are very minor and cannot bully strong defenses. He needs a strong arm alongside him. The goal v Bristol shows his reactions are sharp if a bruiser can create chaos and a flashing gap. |
Cullen was not recruited by the recruitment team.
Possibly it's the recruitment team that is not good enough, Yates doesn't seem to setting the world on fire at Derby. Looking at what he has shown so far Peart-Harris is not a forward, Wednesdays miss was inexcusable. Wilson is an exiting talent but has been struggling with injuries. Vipotnik was better on Wednesday but the jury is still out. |  | | |
| Swansea City : Is this worrying or positive ? on 14:16 - Oct 4 with 1403 views | jack247 |
| Swansea City : Is this worrying or positive ? on 13:07 - Oct 4 by ReslovenSwan1 |
Swansea have more than enough young strikers in the books all of whom were rated by the recruitment team.
Yates, Kukharevych, Peart Harris, Vipotnik, Kyrell Wilson and Cullen.
Of the six Williams only trust one Cullen who he calls a true Jack. Vipotnik has the right profile and needs "developing". This means game time and patience.
If these guys are not right and are ignored then Watson or Williams needs to be dismissed. Cullen improvements are very minor and cannot bully strong defenses. He needs a strong arm alongside him. The goal v Bristol shows his reactions are sharp if a bruiser can create chaos and a flashing gap. |
Cullens best spell came playing with Piroe, who although not a bruiser as such, certainly occupied centre backs and created space for Cullen. I don’t think he’s Williams’ ideal
striker in this setup, he’s just the best we’ve got at the moment.
Vipotnik is just off the pace. I’m not sure he necessarily needs developing, he may just need game time. All things being equal you need a physical striker if he’s on his own.
Forget Peart-Harris, he’s a midfielder. Can’t comment on Wilson, I haven’t seen him play. | | | |
| Swansea City : Is this worrying or positive ? on 16:18 - Oct 4 with 1298 views | nantywatcher |
| Swansea City : Is this worrying or positive ? on 14:16 - Oct 4 by jack247 |
Cullens best spell came playing with Piroe, who although not a bruiser as such, certainly occupied centre backs and created space for Cullen. I don’t think he’s Williams’ ideal
striker in this setup, he’s just the best we’ve got at the moment.
Vipotnik is just off the pace. I’m not sure he necessarily needs developing, he may just need game time. All things being equal you need a physical striker if he’s on his own.
Forget Peart-Harris, he’s a midfielder. Can’t comment on Wilson, I haven’t seen him play. |
Unless someone like Trundle grabs him by the scruff of the neck and devotes hours to tell him how to play as a striker Vipotnik may as well stay in the dressing room cutting oranges. Some good defensive headers from corners, useless anywhere else on the pitch with his head. And his miss from a yard out when he managed to hit it the wrong side of the tall piece of white wood was as bad as Peart-Harris's. | | | |
| Swansea City : Is this worrying or positive ? on 18:01 - Oct 4 with 1203 views | ReslovenSwan1 |
| Swansea City : Is this worrying or positive ? on 16:18 - Oct 4 by nantywatcher |
Unless someone like Trundle grabs him by the scruff of the neck and devotes hours to tell him how to play as a striker Vipotnik may as well stay in the dressing room cutting oranges. Some good defensive headers from corners, useless anywhere else on the pitch with his head. And his miss from a yard out when he managed to hit it the wrong side of the tall piece of white wood was as bad as Peart-Harris's. |
You said this.
"Unless someone like Trundle grabs him by the scruff of the neck and devotes hours to tell him how to play as a striker"
We follow Swansea city not Man City This is exactly what the club should be doing every work day.
A striker comes in the the manages says "not suitable " "next" "are there any free agents?". McCauley Langstaff legend on the river Trent is struggling like Vipotnik and is much older and experienced.
There is no 'quick fix'
Sign, develop play the young players and show patience. Fulton is not the future. Cullen has a lot to prove. | |
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| Swansea City : Is this worrying or positive ? on 19:12 - Oct 4 with 1118 views | KeithHaynes |
Yates, Mykola and Thomas out on loan, all would do a better job than Peart-Harris. The decision making is atrocious and two of those have saved 18k a week, and I doubt very much Luke is behind it. | |
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| Swansea City : Is this worrying or positive ? on 19:57 - Oct 4 with 1060 views | Whiterockin |
| Swansea City : Is this worrying or positive ? on 19:12 - Oct 4 by KeithHaynes |
Yates, Mykola and Thomas out on loan, all would do a better job than Peart-Harris. The decision making is atrocious and two of those have saved 18k a week, and I doubt very much Luke is behind it. |
And those are the simple facts, those who make the decisions have been atrocious the last 6 months. The coaching staff are working with their hands tied behind their backs. Are the owners working to benefit the club and supporters or for their own gain. | | | |
| Swansea City : Is this worrying or positive ? on 20:10 - Oct 4 with 1039 views | jack247 |
| Swansea City : Is this worrying or positive ? on 18:01 - Oct 4 by ReslovenSwan1 |
You said this.
"Unless someone like Trundle grabs him by the scruff of the neck and devotes hours to tell him how to play as a striker"
We follow Swansea city not Man City This is exactly what the club should be doing every work day.
A striker comes in the the manages says "not suitable " "next" "are there any free agents?". McCauley Langstaff legend on the river Trent is struggling like Vipotnik and is much older and experienced.
There is no 'quick fix'
Sign, develop play the young players and show patience. Fulton is not the future. Cullen has a lot to prove. |
This is all very well but you can’t do that if you’ve only got two strikers. Players can’t be cajoled and developed while simultaneously being our main striker.
I don’t think anyone would have had an issue with signing Vipotnik on a free and letting him quietly develop with a few minutes here in there if we already had a strike force.
There’s a lot of pressure on him. | | | |
| Swansea City : Is this worrying or positive ? on 21:13 - Oct 4 with 940 views | ReslovenSwan1 |
| Swansea City : Is this worrying or positive ? on 20:10 - Oct 4 by jack247 |
This is all very well but you can’t do that if you’ve only got two strikers. Players can’t be cajoled and developed while simultaneously being our main striker.
I don’t think anyone would have had an issue with signing Vipotnik on a free and letting him quietly develop with a few minutes here in there if we already had a strike force.
There’s a lot of pressure on him. |
Josh Thomas cannot be on good money. He was given a new contract and sent on loan. Only one nan made the decision in my opinion. Luke Williams who also informed the club Kukharevych and Yates would not feature much in his team. Clearly it would have been get one good expensive proven striker who plays over three average ones who are struggling.
The standout name amongst the list of non contracted players was Tyree Jules John. His stats are modest but like Routledge was he might flourish with stability. He is cousin or nephew of "the Cat" in Red Dwarf which must be a plus point. | |
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| Swansea City : Is this worrying or positive ? on 21:18 - Oct 4 with 927 views | Whiterockin |
| Swansea City : Is this worrying or positive ? on 21:13 - Oct 4 by ReslovenSwan1 |
Josh Thomas cannot be on good money. He was given a new contract and sent on loan. Only one nan made the decision in my opinion. Luke Williams who also informed the club Kukharevych and Yates would not feature much in his team. Clearly it would have been get one good expensive proven striker who plays over three average ones who are struggling.
The standout name amongst the list of non contracted players was Tyree Jules John. His stats are modest but like Routledge was he might flourish with stability. He is cousin or nephew of "the Cat" in Red Dwarf which must be a plus point. |
The owners through Coleman made the decision who went out on loan, fact. | | | |
| Swansea City : Is this worrying or positive ? on 21:22 - Oct 4 with 906 views | KeithHaynes |
| Swansea City : Is this worrying or positive ? on 21:13 - Oct 4 by ReslovenSwan1 |
Josh Thomas cannot be on good money. He was given a new contract and sent on loan. Only one nan made the decision in my opinion. Luke Williams who also informed the club Kukharevych and Yates would not feature much in his team. Clearly it would have been get one good expensive proven striker who plays over three average ones who are struggling.
The standout name amongst the list of non contracted players was Tyree Jules John. His stats are modest but like Routledge was he might flourish with stability. He is cousin or nephew of "the Cat" in Red Dwarf which must be a plus point. |
Josh Thomas aside, the Swans are believed to be saving 72k a month for the other two.
Good business ?
Not when you haven’t got a striker fit. | |
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| Swansea City : Is this worrying or positive ? on 21:24 - Oct 4 with 886 views | Whiterockin |
| Swansea City : Is this worrying or positive ? on 21:22 - Oct 4 by KeithHaynes |
Josh Thomas aside, the Swans are believed to be saving 72k a month for the other two.
Good business ?
Not when you haven’t got a striker fit. |
Exactly, why can some not see this unless they have an agenda. | | | |
| Swansea City : Is this worrying or positive ? on 21:27 - Oct 4 with 855 views | KeithHaynes |
| Swansea City : Is this worrying or positive ? on 21:24 - Oct 4 by Whiterockin |
Exactly, why can some not see this unless they have an agenda. |
It’s most certainly financial, obviously to the majority owners on paper it makes good business sense.
72k a month is knocking on for a million saved.
When you play Peart-Harris as a striker it looks not so good. | |
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| Swansea City : Is this worrying or positive ? on 21:32 - Oct 4 with 839 views | Whiterockin |
| Swansea City : Is this worrying or positive ? on 21:27 - Oct 4 by KeithHaynes |
It’s most certainly financial, obviously to the majority owners on paper it makes good business sense.
72k a month is knocking on for a million saved.
When you play Peart-Harris as a striker it looks not so good. |
They are hoping to tread water and stay where we are while they reset and organise the sale, is this really what supporters want. Just get out and let us move on. | | | |
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