| Groundsman 17:24 - Jan 29 with 11328 views | isitme |
This could be and probably is rubbish but somebody told me today that the groundsman has been sacked. |  | | |  |
| Groundsman on 17:52 - Jan 29 with 8472 views | Shun |
Without wanting to spread rumours, it was also reported on here that Olli Makin was seen at the club last week. Maybe he wasn't there just to see old friends. |  | | |
| Groundsman on 18:06 - Jan 29 with 8405 views | isitme |
That sort of adds a bit more plausibility. The pitch did seem to be much better when Oli was in charge, although I wouldn't wish the potential loss of a job on anyone (if it is true that is). | | | |
| Groundsman on 18:09 - Jan 29 with 8387 views | dingdangblue |
Nah - they've just sent him on a beach holiday. |  |
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| Groundsman on 18:22 - Jan 29 with 8309 views | Rosun |
Or he's on gardening leave? |  | | |
| Groundsman (n/t) on 19:03 - Jan 29 with 8066 views | Molly |
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| Groundsman on 19:04 - Jan 29 with 8051 views | electricblue |
Leaf it out.... |  |
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| Groundsman on 19:10 - Jan 29 with 7986 views | Swissdale |
Pitch is an absolute disgrace at the moment. We've not had any worse weather in the past couple of years than previously, AND we have the added luxury of (supposedly) functional drains.
Wouldn't wish the sack on anyone, but the state of the surface has massively deteriorated since the current incumbent took his post, and it's hard to look anywhere else for someone to blame. |  | | |
| Groundsman on 21:43 - Jan 29 with 7711 views | sweetcorn |
| Groundsman on 18:06 - Jan 29 by isitme |
That sort of adds a bit more plausibility. The pitch did seem to be much better when Oli was in charge, although I wouldn't wish the potential loss of a job on anyone (if it is true that is). |
You’d have to expect it though surely, if you f**k up at work in any walk of life, you end up with either a disciplinary or the sack.. |  |
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| Groundsman on 10:46 - Jan 30 with 7231 views | DiddyDave |
Unless you`re a CEO,whereby you get a golden handshake of two years pay,the same amount of shares value and guaranteed another job as CEO somewhere else. | | | |
| Groundsman on 10:53 - Jan 30 with 7196 views | rochdaleriddler |
| Groundsman on 10:46 - Jan 30 by DiddyDave |
Unless you`re a CEO,whereby you get a golden handshake of two years pay,the same amount of shares value and guaranteed another job as CEO somewhere else. |
Absolutely |  |
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| Groundsman on 11:05 - Jan 30 with 7161 views | steofthedale |
My recollection following relaying of the pitch last season was that (although an improvement on the one replaced), it was never a particularly good surface.
Having checked the rainfall data for September to December inclusive it is clear that there has been above average levels in the North West in each month.
Although I no longer reside in Rochdale, I am unaware that it has lost the well deserved reputation for being one of the damper locations in the North West.
I'm not sure that I would be quite so critical of the groundsman when he may have been dealt an impossible hand. [Post edited 30 Jan 2018 11:06]
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| Groundsman on 11:13 - Jan 30 with 7116 views | mingthemerciless |
| Groundsman on 11:05 - Jan 30 by steofthedale |
My recollection following relaying of the pitch last season was that (although an improvement on the one replaced), it was never a particularly good surface.
Having checked the rainfall data for September to December inclusive it is clear that there has been above average levels in the North West in each month.
Although I no longer reside in Rochdale, I am unaware that it has lost the well deserved reputation for being one of the damper locations in the North West.
I'm not sure that I would be quite so critical of the groundsman when he may have been dealt an impossible hand. [Post edited 30 Jan 2018 11:06]
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In my un-researched opinion it's been a very wet Autumn/Winter. When you say above average rainfall for the time of year in the North West then you're talking about plenty of rain and not much sun.
Ironically today is a nice dry day and the sun has just come out.
Obviously people hear things regarding the up keep of the ground but it wouldn't be right to repeat them without real evidence. One or two posters have previously hinted at the rumours without going into detail. [Post edited 30 Jan 2018 11:14]
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| Groundsman on 11:24 - Jan 30 with 7076 views | LS27Rdale |
Reading between the lines from the Trust Info.
I think the club would have preferred to relay the pitch close season as the window they had wasnt long enough. So they either took a gamble or the firm that laid it were not up to scratch.
Only time will tell on the above comments
So at the end of the season, the window is long enough,to relay again and hopefully we will have the bowling green back come august. Fair play to Hornets too. Both teams want a good pitch
TBF this is my own view, an tbf the board which ever way that they treated the pitch last season, they coldnt have won. |  | | |
| Groundsman on 12:27 - Jan 30 with 6867 views | dingdangblue |
| Groundsman on 11:24 - Jan 30 by LS27Rdale |
Reading between the lines from the Trust Info.
I think the club would have preferred to relay the pitch close season as the window they had wasnt long enough. So they either took a gamble or the firm that laid it were not up to scratch.
Only time will tell on the above comments
So at the end of the season, the window is long enough,to relay again and hopefully we will have the bowling green back come august. Fair play to Hornets too. Both teams want a good pitch
TBF this is my own view, an tbf the board which ever way that they treated the pitch last season, they coldnt have won. |
There was no window last season and you would never choose to relay a new pitch in Feb - but we had the perfect storm of the Hogan money and going for the playoffs - coinciding with the pitch looking pretty bad (but nowhere near the state it's in now). They chanced a soil based turf pitch (which is all we had time to lay in a week - ordinarily in close season it's relayed and reseeded and grown from scratch). It just hasn't worked and you can now see why these soil based pitches are a thing of the past now with today's technology. 20-30 years ago all pitches used to look a mess after the Winter weather but you just got on with it. Now it looks out of place if you are a professional league team and not playing on a carpet all year round. You can see why the club did it last Feb but long term it's just caused all the problems we have now. | |
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| Groundsman on 13:32 - Jan 30 with 6589 views | D_Alien |
| Groundsman on 12:27 - Jan 30 by dingdangblue |
There was no window last season and you would never choose to relay a new pitch in Feb - but we had the perfect storm of the Hogan money and going for the playoffs - coinciding with the pitch looking pretty bad (but nowhere near the state it's in now). They chanced a soil based turf pitch (which is all we had time to lay in a week - ordinarily in close season it's relayed and reseeded and grown from scratch). It just hasn't worked and you can now see why these soil based pitches are a thing of the past now with today's technology. 20-30 years ago all pitches used to look a mess after the Winter weather but you just got on with it. Now it looks out of place if you are a professional league team and not playing on a carpet all year round. You can see why the club did it last Feb but long term it's just caused all the problems we have now. |
I wish people would read the OS statement before posting opinions
The long-term cause of the deteriorating pitch was the 2016 summer overhaul when the wrong type of sand was used - not the emergency relay this time last year |  |
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| Groundsman on 20:57 - Jan 30 with 6091 views | kiwidale |
There has been a couple of references on here to an official club statement about the pitch? I cant find it can anybody post a link. What I did find and I'm not sure its the official site or not is this gem
The club will continue to seek advice from pitch experts and remain in contact with the EFL. We will keep supporters up to date where and when possible.
How could anybody write that with a straight face? | |
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| Groundsman on 21:00 - Jan 30 with 6076 views | Ninco |
The directors have already said that they had to buy the wrong type of pitch as it was the wrong time of year to install a fibresand one, so if they envisaged these problems in advance, why would they then sack the groundsman? | | | |
| Groundsman on 21:07 - Jan 30 with 6036 views | surb_dale |
| Groundsman on 13:32 - Jan 30 by D_Alien |
I wish people would read the OS statement before posting opinions
The long-term cause of the deteriorating pitch was the 2016 summer overhaul when the wrong type of sand was used - not the emergency relay this time last year |
I'd be interested to know who was to blame for that almighty eff up. Our groundsman at the time or pitch company??
It sounds lke the equivalent of a baker mixing up salt and sugar. [Post edited 30 Jan 2018 21:09]
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| Groundsman on 21:12 - Jan 30 with 5993 views | 100notout |
| Groundsman on 21:00 - Jan 30 by Ninco |
The directors have already said that they had to buy the wrong type of pitch as it was the wrong time of year to install a fibresand one, so if they envisaged these problems in advance, why would they then sack the groundsman? |
Not read the whole background so apologies in advance but if it was acknowledged that it was the wrong type of pitch why wasn't a proper one (fibresand?) laid in the summer? | |
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| Groundsman on 21:16 - Jan 30 with 5963 views | Ninco |
| Groundsman on 21:12 - Jan 30 by 100notout |
Not read the whole background so apologies in advance but if it was acknowledged that it was the wrong type of pitch why wasn't a proper one (fibresand?) laid in the summer? |
Presumably down to budgets. If the installers tell you it will last 18 months, you don't expect it to pack in earlier so you don't budget for a new pitch. | | | |
| Groundsman on 21:18 - Jan 30 with 5936 views | kiwidale |
| Groundsman on 21:07 - Jan 30 by surb_dale |
I'd be interested to know who was to blame for that almighty eff up. Our groundsman at the time or pitch company??
It sounds lke the equivalent of a baker mixing up salt and sugar. [Post edited 30 Jan 2018 21:09]
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Its been suggested or rumoured that the wrong sand was used when the pitch was first laid in the summer of 2016 not the relay of the current pitch 12 months ago mid season. How can the groundsman be responsible for that?
again can anybody post a link to a club statement confirming this or is it just bollox. | |
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| Groundsman on 21:31 - Jan 30 with 5860 views | dingdangblue |
| Groundsman on 13:32 - Jan 30 by D_Alien |
I wish people would read the OS statement before posting opinions
The long-term cause of the deteriorating pitch was the 2016 summer overhaul when the wrong type of sand was used - not the emergency relay this time last year |
Eh? Doesn't it also say that soil based pitches aren't as good? We laid a soil based pitch and guess what - it's no good. I'm not sure what I've said which contradicts the article? | |
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| Groundsman on 21:57 - Jan 30 with 5740 views | D_Alien |
| Groundsman on 21:31 - Jan 30 by dingdangblue |
Eh? Doesn't it also say that soil based pitches aren't as good? We laid a soil based pitch and guess what - it's no good. I'm not sure what I've said which contradicts the article? |
This:
"You can see why the club did it last Feb but long term it's just caused all the problems we have now."
Note the "all"
You didn't mention the 2016 sand problem, which led to the Feb 17 emergency relay; the true cause of the long-term problem | |
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| Groundsman on 22:54 - Jan 30 with 5587 views | dingdangblue |
| Groundsman on 21:57 - Jan 30 by D_Alien |
This:
"You can see why the club did it last Feb but long term it's just caused all the problems we have now."
Note the "all"
You didn't mention the 2016 sand problem, which led to the Feb 17 emergency relay; the true cause of the long-term problem |
Have they said when they realised they'd put the wrong sand base down? | |
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| Groundsman on 23:13 - Jan 30 with 5532 views | surb_dale |
| Groundsman on 21:18 - Jan 30 by kiwidale |
Its been suggested or rumoured that the wrong sand was used when the pitch was first laid in the summer of 2016 not the relay of the current pitch 12 months ago mid season. How can the groundsman be responsible for that?
again can anybody post a link to a club statement confirming this or is it just bollox. |
kiwi it’s from the minutes taken at the trust meeting with the board
‘Wrong type of sand mix’
http://www.daletrust.co.uk/2018/01/meeting-with-the-directors-part-2/ | | | |
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