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WIGAN GAME 07:42 - Jan 29 with 13777 viewsfrenzied

Plenty of rain in Stockport..hows things up Rochdale way?

I wouldnt be suprised if game is under threat..?

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WIGAN GAME on 16:28 - Jan 29 with 3475 viewsDaleFan7

WIGAN GAME on 16:16 - Jan 29 by electricblue

Based on the video it would take until now and next august to drill n fill....
Plus they are adding sand into the holes is adding sand into the holes solve the drainage problem...


Even with the drilling, it's just adding more sand and I thought that's what the problem was, surely when it rains it'll just flood again.

I don't suppose it magics some grass up does it? Can't see much grass on our pitch...
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WIGAN GAME on 16:30 - Jan 29 with 3459 viewsR17ALE

WIGAN GAME on 16:28 - Jan 29 by DaleFan7

Even with the drilling, it's just adding more sand and I thought that's what the problem was, surely when it rains it'll just flood again.

I don't suppose it magics some grass up does it? Can't see much grass on our pitch...


Depends what type of sand you use. Kiln dried sand is the answer!

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WIGAN GAME on 17:04 - Jan 29 with 3327 viewsBlueDales

Trafford. Droylesden. Curzon Ashton. FC United. Chorley. Stockport.

They've all managed to play home matches since the last time we could. What have sixth, seventh and even eight tier clubs done that we haven't?
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WIGAN GAME on 17:25 - Jan 29 with 3231 views442Dale

WIGAN GAME on 17:04 - Jan 29 by BlueDales

Trafford. Droylesden. Curzon Ashton. FC United. Chorley. Stockport.

They've all managed to play home matches since the last time we could. What have sixth, seventh and even eight tier clubs done that we haven't?


Is the answer “put on more sandwiches for visiting team staff when it rains”?

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WIGAN GAME on 17:41 - Jan 29 with 3166 viewsoff2div1

Do any of the none lge clubs have any egg chasers playing on their ground
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WIGAN GAME on 17:49 - Jan 29 with 3132 viewsDaleFan7

WIGAN GAME on 17:41 - Jan 29 by off2div1

Do any of the none lge clubs have any egg chasers playing on their ground


Hornets have played 1 game this season, can't blame them for our clubs balls ups.
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WIGAN GAME on 17:54 - Jan 29 with 3108 viewsEllDale

They played two friendlies in four days immediately after our Checkatrade match, against Oldham and Warrington.

Pitch was sh@gged before then though.
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WIGAN GAME on 17:56 - Jan 29 with 3093 views442Dale

If anything, Hornets are well within their rights to be annoyed with their landlords.

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WIGAN GAME on 18:13 - Jan 29 with 3025 viewsdingdangblue

WIGAN GAME on 16:30 - Jan 29 by R17ALE

Depends what type of sand you use. Kiln dried sand is the answer!


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WIGAN GAME on 18:20 - Jan 29 with 2990 viewsshawclough_dale

Rochdale or the Pennine puddle as my dad calls it. Don't know why the Fl dont cram more Tuesday games in during August September. When the weather is better. Kids are off school how many free Tuesdays untill we are up to three games a week?
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WIGAN GAME on 19:18 - Jan 29 with 2813 viewsblackdogblue

Missing a trick here, daughters mobile got wet & put it I a bowl of rice over night & perfect..

Why don’t we put 40 tonnes of rice on the pitch, perfect paddy field & a bonus, could be cooked up with some curry at the next home game & solves the problem. Of the grotty cold mush hot dogs & vile steak & pepper pies..,

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WIGAN GAME on 19:42 - Jan 29 with 2747 viewsTVOS1907

WIGAN GAME on 18:20 - Jan 29 by shawclough_dale

Rochdale or the Pennine puddle as my dad calls it. Don't know why the Fl dont cram more Tuesday games in during August September. When the weather is better. Kids are off school how many free Tuesdays untill we are up to three games a week?


Instead of playing Saturdays in the winter, you mean?

When the fixtures came out, the only midweek game post-Christmas was Bristol Rovers away. (Bury was originally Easter Monday).

Tomorrow and every other subsequent Tuesday game has been brought about by postponements and rearrangements

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WIGAN GAME on 22:29 - Jan 29 with 2550 viewsSteTsGoldenBoot

WIGAN GAME on 16:28 - Jan 29 by DaleFan7

Even with the drilling, it's just adding more sand and I thought that's what the problem was, surely when it rains it'll just flood again.

I don't suppose it magics some grass up does it? Can't see much grass on our pitch...


I think we had a similar problem about 20 odd years ago!

I remember the groundsman at the time, Mark somebody being pictured in the Observer with a flooded pitch, ducks on it and a cheesy grin! He didn't stay in the job much longer!

He used the wrong sand, which I believe forms a cement like crust under the playing surface, which the water cant permeate.

The drilling cracks the crust and the kiln dried sand (as R17 suggests) stays granular (if that's a word) so the water can drain below the crust and through the drainage system.

We need a safe playable surface, true it wont win a beauty contests, but as long as we can play games and the players aren't at risk, that's all that matters for the next 13 weeks.

The board hasn't covered itself in glory recently, but I do feel that in our current position this option rather than relaying the pitch, potentially having this problem again next year is the right thing to do.

PS I saw Ollie at Tesco petrol station :-)
[Post edited 29 Jan 2018 22:31]

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WIGAN GAME on 22:42 - Jan 29 with 2515 viewsD_Alien

WIGAN GAME on 22:29 - Jan 29 by SteTsGoldenBoot

I think we had a similar problem about 20 odd years ago!

I remember the groundsman at the time, Mark somebody being pictured in the Observer with a flooded pitch, ducks on it and a cheesy grin! He didn't stay in the job much longer!

He used the wrong sand, which I believe forms a cement like crust under the playing surface, which the water cant permeate.

The drilling cracks the crust and the kiln dried sand (as R17 suggests) stays granular (if that's a word) so the water can drain below the crust and through the drainage system.

We need a safe playable surface, true it wont win a beauty contests, but as long as we can play games and the players aren't at risk, that's all that matters for the next 13 weeks.

The board hasn't covered itself in glory recently, but I do feel that in our current position this option rather than relaying the pitch, potentially having this problem again next year is the right thing to do.

PS I saw Ollie at Tesco petrol station :-)
[Post edited 29 Jan 2018 22:31]


I broadly agree that if the expert advice has been to carry out the suggested work this week then the board would have little choice but to take it; but it doesn't follow that relaying the pitch would leave us with the same problem this time next year

If you read the OS statement, the club have agreed a 7 week timeframe in the summer with Hornets to completely overhaul the ground and playing surface, presumably not making the mistake of using the wrong type of sand as in 2016 which ultimately has led to the current muddy mess

The question is: has the expert advice been to undertake the suggested work as the first choice option, or have the board ruled out relaying the pitch and asked for the best advice without having to relay the pitch?

Relaying the pitch, as per this time last year, would have provided a surface that'd last till the summer overhaul. With the current work programme, it looks a bit more hit & miss, but I hope for everyone's sake that it works

[Post edited 29 Jan 2018 22:46]

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WIGAN GAME on 22:48 - Jan 29 with 2486 viewsmikehunt

Bradford and Blackpool’s pitches have been awful of late. Any idea if they had similar problems and what they did to rectify the situation?

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WIGAN GAME on 08:35 - Jan 30 with 2250 viewsMeanwood

We need medium/fine rounded particle sands [dune sand] and not angular [quarried], the flat angular sides to the sand grain, eventually bed themselves together on the flat sides causing lack of permeation, rounded particle sand do not, effectively you have a bucket of marbles, add in fibre to bind the root system, a decent Cheshire loam between 30/40% by volume, clean out the drains so the water can escape. This science is not new, and quite easy to mange if you know what you are doing.[Oli did!]
if quarried sand added its generally not recoverable so time to "rip it up and start again" name that tune?
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WIGAN GAME on 08:38 - Jan 30 with 2242 viewsSteTsGoldenBoot

WIGAN GAME on 08:35 - Jan 30 by Meanwood

We need medium/fine rounded particle sands [dune sand] and not angular [quarried], the flat angular sides to the sand grain, eventually bed themselves together on the flat sides causing lack of permeation, rounded particle sand do not, effectively you have a bucket of marbles, add in fibre to bind the root system, a decent Cheshire loam between 30/40% by volume, clean out the drains so the water can escape. This science is not new, and quite easy to mange if you know what you are doing.[Oli did!]
if quarried sand added its generally not recoverable so time to "rip it up and start again" name that tune?


I hope to god, is not as bad as you make out!

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WIGAN GAME on 09:16 - Jan 30 with 2164 viewsMeanwood

If Dale can afford him, John Souter is the man who will advice, I studied under him for 3 years, but back a few years now!

http://www.heraldscotland.com/news/11930605.Souter____A_legend_of_sports_arenas/

Just spotted gone into receivership last year!! so maybe not the best advice!
[Post edited 30 Jan 2018 9:18]
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WIGAN GAME on 22:06 - Jan 30 with 1902 viewsnordenblue

WIGAN GAME on 08:38 - Jan 30 by SteTsGoldenBoot

I hope to god, is not as bad as you make out!


No need to bring his sex life into it......
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