| Clydach Murders 09:30 - Dec 27 with 29408 views | Neath_Jack |
The search function doesn't work for me, so i'm starting this one...
I had the book for Christmas, and had a quick look at it last night and in the prologue it states "This is the story of an appalling crime and the flawed police investigation that followed. It is based mainly on first hand reports from the South Wales Evening Post..."
That has made me want to bin the book already.
I shall however, read it and report back with my findings. |  |
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| Clydach Murders on 19:37 - Feb 1 with 4005 views | Brynmill_Jack |
| Clydach Murders on 16:05 - Feb 1 by Wingstandwood |
Nah, not mysterious whatsoever! Because there is another possible motive, potential violence trigger that was mentioned in court and of which BBC reporter Penny Roberts went as far to mention after the second trial.
The trouble is with unbalanced psycho's on an amphetamine spree? Anything can set them off! |
What was the other motive then? |  |
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| Clydach Murders on 23:21 - Feb 2 with 3751 views | Jack123 |
| Clydach Murders on 19:37 - Feb 1 by Brynmill_Jack |
What was the other motive then? |
I think the copper brothers did it.. Just from the bits of evidence I have read.. If the swp were not guilty in this, why the hell did they ferk the case up so much?
I have read stuff in the past that dai morris, was clued up forensically, absolute bull shit, the only one clued up to destroy forensic evidence was one of the police first on scene, how convenient. |  |
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| Clydach Murders on 03:00 - Feb 3 with 3693 views | Clydachian |
| Clydach Murders on 23:21 - Feb 2 by Jack123 |
I think the copper brothers did it.. Just from the bits of evidence I have read.. If the swp were not guilty in this, why the hell did they ferk the case up so much?
I have read stuff in the past that dai morris, was clued up forensically, absolute bull shit, the only one clued up to destroy forensic evidence was one of the police first on scene, how convenient. |
Try researching all the evidence before making a statement like that, you are either deluded or like many others have a grudge against the police. |  | | |
| Clydach Murders on 06:54 - Feb 3 with 4029 views | Glastonbury |
| Clydach Murders on 03:00 - Feb 3 by Clydachian |
Try researching all the evidence before making a statement like that, you are either deluded or like many others have a grudge against the police. |
The thing is mate We have had just had 2 books come out that all the evidence has been researched for 5 years by a man with a far superior brain than u and I. There clearly was evidence left out of those trials and you don't have to have a grudge against the police or be deluded to come up with an opinion ` Hang on something not right here ` now answer this
Have SWP got it wrong before ? Yes on more than 1 occasions. Darvells etc
Eric Williams his cousin drank in same pub as me at time and always said he didn't do it Eric mistake was telling someone he bought the replacement chain Morris didn't trust the police and that's why he lied. | | | |
| Clydach Murders on 10:49 - Feb 3 with 3895 views | 1983 |
I've just started reading this and I'm up to chapter 7 so can't comment on the whole thing yet but what is obvious from the start is the SWP went into self preservation mode straight away and covering up for their own whether they were guilty or not
Alison Lewis car seen outside 9 Kelvin Rd in the early hours of the day of the murders ?
Stuart Lewis whilst on duty goes missing in his car for 3 hours in the early hours of the day pf the murders and denies he ever left?
Alison Lewis freshly showered back in Kelvin Rd at 06:00am the day of the murders
Why was the e-fit of the man (looked like one of the Lewis coppers carrying a bag wearing what looked like a police jacket on ) seen walking up Kelvin road in the early hours of the day of the murders never mentioned or shown on crime stoppers/crime watch?
A week later Alison Lewis is admitted to a psychiatric hospital she is aggressive,necessitating the use of restraining by 8 members of staff and never questioned for 2 weeks due to her "condition"
Just a few questions need answering there let alone all the other sh!t?? |  |
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| Clydach Murders on 11:33 - Feb 3 with 3858 views | Wingstandwood |
| Clydach Murders on 06:54 - Feb 3 by Glastonbury |
The thing is mate We have had just had 2 books come out that all the evidence has been researched for 5 years by a man with a far superior brain than u and I. There clearly was evidence left out of those trials and you don't have to have a grudge against the police or be deluded to come up with an opinion ` Hang on something not right here ` now answer this
Have SWP got it wrong before ? Yes on more than 1 occasions. Darvells etc
Eric Williams his cousin drank in same pub as me at time and always said he didn't do it Eric mistake was telling someone he bought the replacement chain Morris didn't trust the police and that's why he lied. |
Bit of advice, regarding your critique of that solicitor along with his 5 years of research?
There are individuals out there, who know far more than what they are actually letting on regarding what is NOT in the public domain, and there is indeed confidential information shared amongst a select few that the likes of yourself are more than obviously utterly oblivious to. |  |
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| Clydach Murders on 11:40 - Feb 3 with 3848 views | jackrmee |
| Clydach Murders on 11:33 - Feb 3 by Wingstandwood |
Bit of advice, regarding your critique of that solicitor along with his 5 years of research?
There are individuals out there, who know far more than what they are actually letting on regarding what is NOT in the public domain, and there is indeed confidential information shared amongst a select few that the likes of yourself are more than obviously utterly oblivious to. |
SO are you saying that you are in the "select few that the likes of yourself are more than obviously utterly oblivious to."? |  |
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| Clydach Murders on 12:30 - Feb 3 with 3786 views | theloneranger |
| Clydach Murders on 10:49 - Feb 3 by 1983 |
I've just started reading this and I'm up to chapter 7 so can't comment on the whole thing yet but what is obvious from the start is the SWP went into self preservation mode straight away and covering up for their own whether they were guilty or not
Alison Lewis car seen outside 9 Kelvin Rd in the early hours of the day of the murders ?
Stuart Lewis whilst on duty goes missing in his car for 3 hours in the early hours of the day pf the murders and denies he ever left?
Alison Lewis freshly showered back in Kelvin Rd at 06:00am the day of the murders
Why was the e-fit of the man (looked like one of the Lewis coppers carrying a bag wearing what looked like a police jacket on ) seen walking up Kelvin road in the early hours of the day of the murders never mentioned or shown on crime stoppers/crime watch?
A week later Alison Lewis is admitted to a psychiatric hospital she is aggressive,necessitating the use of restraining by 8 members of staff and never questioned for 2 weeks due to her "condition"
Just a few questions need answering there let alone all the other sh!t?? |
If it's ... "obvious from the start is the SWP went into self preservation mode straight away and covering up for their own whether they were guilty or not" ...
Then WHY did the Lewis brothers with their then solicitor David Hutchinson ( also would become the solicitor to Morris) make formal complaints against 18 police officers of all ranks from constable to Detective Superintendent. They also made a complaint against the Chief Constable of South Wales!!
These complaints included perjury, attempting to pervert the course of justice, wrongful arrest, disclosure of confidential information, inappropriate disclosure of sensitive information, etc.
This doesn't seem a very sensible action to take if you know that the SWP are in your corner. |  |
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| Clydach Murders on 14:06 - Feb 3 with 3690 views | whiterock |
| Clydach Murders on 12:30 - Feb 3 by theloneranger |
If it's ... "obvious from the start is the SWP went into self preservation mode straight away and covering up for their own whether they were guilty or not" ...
Then WHY did the Lewis brothers with their then solicitor David Hutchinson ( also would become the solicitor to Morris) make formal complaints against 18 police officers of all ranks from constable to Detective Superintendent. They also made a complaint against the Chief Constable of South Wales!!
These complaints included perjury, attempting to pervert the course of justice, wrongful arrest, disclosure of confidential information, inappropriate disclosure of sensitive information, etc.
This doesn't seem a very sensible action to take if you know that the SWP are in your corner. |
Also, if one of the police did do it how would he/she know exactly where to get rid of Morris' DNA who by his own admission was there on the Friday when he lost his gold chain. His DNA would have been everywhere and however forensically aware the police were they couldn't guess where Morris had been in the house the day before to clean up.
The gold chain plays a massive part of the evidence, did he actually leave it there on the Friday after claiming for months that it wasn't his?, was it actually left there on the Saturday? and was he actually having an affair with Miss Power? | | | |
| Clydach Murders on 14:46 - Feb 3 with 3651 views | Glastonbury |
| Clydach Murders on 14:06 - Feb 3 by whiterock |
Also, if one of the police did do it how would he/she know exactly where to get rid of Morris' DNA who by his own admission was there on the Friday when he lost his gold chain. His DNA would have been everywhere and however forensically aware the police were they couldn't guess where Morris had been in the house the day before to clean up.
The gold chain plays a massive part of the evidence, did he actually leave it there on the Friday after claiming for months that it wasn't his?, was it actually left there on the Saturday? and was he actually having an affair with Miss Power? |
Where was Morris DNA ? They can't find any at the scene why don't they do a DNA test now on the baton of whatever else they have ? DNA technology is far advanced now than 20 years ago | | | |
| Clydach Murders on 14:50 - Feb 3 with 3645 views | Clydachian |
| Clydach Murders on 06:54 - Feb 3 by Glastonbury |
The thing is mate We have had just had 2 books come out that all the evidence has been researched for 5 years by a man with a far superior brain than u and I. There clearly was evidence left out of those trials and you don't have to have a grudge against the police or be deluded to come up with an opinion ` Hang on something not right here ` now answer this
Have SWP got it wrong before ? Yes on more than 1 occasions. Darvells etc
Eric Williams his cousin drank in same pub as me at time and always said he didn't do it Eric mistake was telling someone he bought the replacement chain Morris didn't trust the police and that's why he lied. |
We’re you at the trial?
You think the book has all the evidence in it ? | | | |
| Clydach Murders on 15:12 - Feb 3 with 3629 views | Flashberryjack |
| Clydach Murders on 14:50 - Feb 3 by Clydachian |
We’re you at the trial?
You think the book has all the evidence in it ? |
If there is a retrial(which there won't be) maybe best if the jury just read the book rather than listen to detailed evidence. |  |
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| Clydach Murders on 20:39 - Feb 3 with 3458 views | Glastonbury |
| Clydach Murders on 14:50 - Feb 3 by Clydachian |
We’re you at the trial?
You think the book has all the evidence in it ? |
The author didn't do this for Morris he did it to teach students and this is his findings | | | |
| Clydach Murders on 20:54 - Feb 3 with 3433 views | Glastonbury |
| Clydach Murders on 14:50 - Feb 3 by Clydachian |
We’re you at the trial?
You think the book has all the evidence in it ? |
Do u believe all the evidence was shown at the trials | | | |
| Clydach Murders on 20:54 - Feb 3 with 3429 views | Gowerjack |
| Clydach Murders on 20:39 - Feb 3 by Glastonbury |
The author didn't do this for Morris he did it to teach students and this is his findings |
Which book are you referring too please? |  |
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| Clydach Murders on 20:55 - Feb 3 with 3428 views | NotLoyal |
| Clydach Murders on 20:54 - Feb 3 by Glastonbury |
Do u believe all the evidence was shown at the trials |
The evidence ? Yes.
The unused material ? Another question. |  |
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| Clydach Murders on 21:03 - Feb 3 with 3406 views | Glastonbury |
| Clydach Murders on 20:54 - Feb 3 by Gowerjack |
Which book are you referring too please? |
Clydach murders | | | |
| Clydach Murders on 21:06 - Feb 3 with 3403 views | Flashberryjack |
| Clydach Murders on 20:54 - Feb 3 by Glastonbury |
Do u believe all the evidence was shown at the trials |
Probably some inadmissible evidence from the prosecution, just like many murder trials.
The Dawson family seem to think the police got the right person, which should speak volumes, but don't let that get in the way of a good conspiracy theory. [Post edited 3 Feb 2020 21:11]
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| Clydach Murders on 21:15 - Feb 3 with 3384 views | Swanjaxs |
Dai used to drink in the Kings back in the day.
Drank Stella till it came out of his ears he did.
Got himself banned from the Raven many times. |  |
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| Clydach Murders on 21:49 - Feb 3 with 3344 views | Clydachian |
| Clydach Murders on 20:39 - Feb 3 by Glastonbury |
The author didn't do this for Morris he did it to teach students and this is his findings |
There’s only one reason he wrote this book, to make money !! | | | |
| Clydach Murders on 22:17 - Feb 3 with 3290 views | Banosswan |
| Clydach Murders on 21:49 - Feb 3 by Clydachian |
There’s only one reason he wrote this book, to make money !! |
Absolutely. Playing up to people like the imbeciles on this board. |  |
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| Clydach Murders on 08:32 - Feb 4 with 3185 views | 1983 |
| Clydach Murders on 21:15 - Feb 3 by Swanjaxs |
Dai used to drink in the Kings back in the day.
Drank Stella till it came out of his ears he did.
Got himself banned from the Raven many times. |
No more further questions then your honour | |
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| Clydach Murders on 08:35 - Feb 4 with 3180 views | 1983 |
| Clydach Murders on 21:06 - Feb 3 by Flashberryjack |
Probably some inadmissible evidence from the prosecution, just like many murder trials.
The Dawson family seem to think the police got the right person, which should speak volumes, but don't let that get in the way of a good conspiracy theory. [Post edited 3 Feb 2020 21:11]
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And another family called Morris think he's innocent so on your basis we are back to square one then  [Post edited 4 Feb 2020 8:35]
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| Clydach Murders on 08:51 - Feb 4 with 3166 views | jackrmee |
| Clydach Murders on 14:06 - Feb 3 by whiterock |
Also, if one of the police did do it how would he/she know exactly where to get rid of Morris' DNA who by his own admission was there on the Friday when he lost his gold chain. His DNA would have been everywhere and however forensically aware the police were they couldn't guess where Morris had been in the house the day before to clean up.
The gold chain plays a massive part of the evidence, did he actually leave it there on the Friday after claiming for months that it wasn't his?, was it actually left there on the Saturday? and was he actually having an affair with Miss Power? |
Why would the police eve want to get rid of Morris' dna? | |
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| Clydach Murders on 09:15 - Feb 4 with 3146 views | whiterock |
| Clydach Murders on 08:51 - Feb 4 by jackrmee |
Why would the police eve want to get rid of Morris' dna? |
If I was Morris, I'd be trying to prove that I was having the affair and that I was there on the Friday, or is it made up, I get that if you are having an affair, you don't broadcast it but someone, other than Morris must know.
Also, he tells the police that he walks to Llangyfelach in the pouring down rain, gets to the roundabout and turns back as he realises he doesn't have the keys to his parents house, didn't he have a bolt hole on Llangyfelach road? My point here is that its unlikely that you take every set of key you own on one key ring so its possible that he would have known before setting off from the New Inn that he didn't have either set of keys?
I'm also a little suspicious that he put a wash on when he got home at 3am, he'd been walking for hours (his version of the story), a fact that he'd been drinking heavily too, the last thing he would have done is thought of putting a wash on. | | | |
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