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Tamworth Tuesday
at 22:38 17 Dec 2024

Comprehensive win in the end but have to wonder how the game would have gone without the sending off. Despite plenty of misgivings, we did at least shoot more and that alone has led to one goal and a lesson learnt.

God knows what XI we will see on Saturday, and what change that will mean, but we had to get results in these two home games and it’s half a job done.
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Tamworth Tuesday
at 20:43 17 Dec 2024

Started well, reverted to keeping the ball with little threat. Failing to see the difference the changes have made.
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Tamworth Tuesday
at 19:47 17 Dec 2024

Which is poor recruitment. The amount of injuries we have makes it worse.
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Tamworth Tuesday
at 19:26 17 Dec 2024

Continually changing players who all pretty much do the same thing makes less and less sense.
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Tamworth Tuesday
at 18:38 17 Dec 2024

As Rochdale fans we don’t expect us to overspend. It’s about doing things sustainably and calling out the club when it’s not run properly. Something that has been consistent over the years.

Something they failed miserably at over at Oldham.
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Tamworth Tuesday
at 18:36 17 Dec 2024

You mean you overheard him say that?
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Tamworth Tuesday
at 18:17 17 Dec 2024

Well yeah, our owners are considerably richer than Oldham’s. It’s just we do things right and don’t chuck silly money at players.
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Tamworth Tuesday
at 20:47 16 Dec 2024

So you were wrong about the examples you gave and the failure to respond about the atmosphere point further illustrates the fact although we welcome anyone here who can add to debates, creating unnecessary diversions is unfair to all concerned.

Yes, I know responding doesn’t help but it needs saying.
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Tamworth Tuesday
at 20:43 16 Dec 2024

Ah, always thought Peters played a bit further forward on with Ball on the right of the midfield, a 4-3-1-2 really. But never seen the full game so only guessing!
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Tamworth Tuesday
at 20:27 16 Dec 2024

Wasn’t Ramsey playing a 4–3-3?

The name came from a desire for us to return to wingers, the latter stages of the second Parkin era featuring three midfielders/forwards producing little. Hill then came in and did indeed employ a 4-4-2.

You’re right though, styles and formations evolve. For example, can recall becoming frustrated with BBM playing 4-4-2 for far too long during the relegation season. He only latterly going to three at the back which saw an upturn in results, although too late to keep us up.
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Tamworth Tuesday
at 20:06 16 Dec 2024

Ironically, the current formation is as near to that as most others over the years!

It’s designed for the two wide central defenders to support attacks, wing backs to be wide of the front three so, when seen at its most effective, we are playing with five in the last third with three often in support.
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Tamworth Tuesday
at 19:56 16 Dec 2024

Didn’t see Eastleigh so can’t comment. Solihull were a well drilled side who we didn’t play well enough to break down - that was on us not a big physical side taking advantage.

Bromley was one of our better attacking performances of the season, we played some great stuff but defended shockingly. If anything we should have been out of sight before their two late goals.

You appear not to have addressed the comments on comparisons between the atmosphere now and in previous years. What seasons do you think the atmosphere was better?
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Tamworth Tuesday
at 19:42 16 Dec 2024

The atmosphere at homes games is good. Any Dale fan who has been going to games over the years can honestly say the backing the team receives and the noise in the ground is as good as it’s been for a long time.

Worth noting attendances are steady and remain at a level comparable to other more successful period.

Can you list the games where ‘‘big physical sides’ have taken advantage of us?
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Tamworth Tuesday
at 19:37 16 Dec 2024

This messageboard illustrates there hasn’t been a particular shift one way or another over this season in the way we play. Sometimes we’ve played more effectively, other times we haven’t so there is no real difference from the start of the campaign. The Bromley and Gateshead games have seen two totally different types of performance, neither of which were the ‘pass it about at the back without doing much’ display which rightly frustrates many.

Also, ‘total options’ is not that less than exciting style which few if any want to see, it’s exactly what it says it is and means to mix up play and go direct when required. That’s why there’s so much angst, because we AREN’T total options as much as we should be.

Finally, the football employed by Gareth Southgate cannot be compared to that played by Dale, City, Southampton or any possession based side. His problem was his style was dour be design and utilised to get results ahead of anything else.
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Tamworth Tuesday
at 19:25 16 Dec 2024

Except McNulty joined when we were in L1 and weren’t playing the same ‘no fear’ football seen in Hill’s first spell. We were no longer playing with two wingers and there was a much more tactical approach, albeit with a set of players who were capable of some exciting football.

In fact, McNulty was signed to add someone in central defence who was a bit more capable on the ball and could play out from there better.
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Tamworth Tuesday
at 18:27 16 Dec 2024

Certainly no “take it or leave it” here. Because it will change again, it’s just a question of when. The City implosion and the likes of Burnley and Southampton refusing to change when they aren’t even looking like winning could begin to start a reflection period.

It will need the media and analysts to start to provide stats on where it’s going wrong for this change to progress.

Given a choice, it’d be the Dale side we’ve seen at times who look to go into midfield and wide quickly that is the future of the game. However, managers overthink. Ours included.
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Dagenham match thread
at 18:13 16 Dec 2024

While it was laughable at times how Southampton conceded goals this season, it’s wrong to say there was a lack of success after a promotion!

There are some small signs of change though. When they start producing regularly stats of ‘goals conceded from possession in defensive third’ it’ll be the beginning of the end of this football cycle.
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Dagenham match thread
at 16:15 15 Dec 2024

Simon Gauge or anyone else on the board would be extremely naive to think that supporters would put up with a team that fails to challenge at the top end of the National League. Losing these two home games would be bordering on a crisis and fans will rightly make their feelings clear.

Irrespective of results, the club is in dire need of someone with football knowledge off the pitch to assist the manager and report back to a board that is lacking in that area.
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Dagenham match thread
at 11:50 15 Dec 2024

Of course. But I don’t believe they are against playing that way.
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Dagenham match thread
at 11:40 15 Dec 2024

When we play with pace it is good to watch. It’s not often enough though.

If anything, I think the players like overplaying too much.
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