| The City view on Hughes. on 07:14 - Sep 5 with 912 views | smegma |
Citeh fans coating MH but praising Mancini. Mancinis handling of Tevez was totally pathetic, Hughes on the other hand has bombed 'our Joey' out. I know who I prefer. MH would've won the league last season IF he was allowed to buy that team, even I would've won the league with that team.Lets get behind our club and not worry about what others say about our manager/us. |  | |  |
| The City view on Hughes. on 07:31 - Sep 5 with 903 views | Kiwi76 |
He's had some PR clangers and doesn't do anything to chase affection from fans or media (or players?).
To say he's bought old mates and is a crap manager is way too harsh.
Clearly tried for Dawson & Carvalho & we haven't even seen M'Bia yet.
We'll be better than bottom 3 come Xmas. |  | | |
| The City view on Hughes. on 07:44 - Sep 5 with 900 views | ichbinnaughty |
| The City view on Hughes. on 21:04 - Sep 4 by jimmya |
The worrying thing is football fans generally don't get it wrong. He needs time and time will tell, but we do seem to buy players on their way down rather than on their way up. I think the comment on Hughes needs to make this a success more than anyone for his own self worth is spot on. in Hughes we trust. |
Eh?
Hoilett? Granero? Magri? M'Bia? |  | | |
| The City view on Hughes. on 08:31 - Sep 5 with 882 views | JonDoeman |
| The City view on Hughes. on 06:34 - Sep 5 by Pommyhoop |
Yes I think he is a better Premiership manager than Warnock.His record speaks for itself.I'm counting City as as a completely different animal than Blackburn,Fulham and indeed ourselves.He did ok at Wales too didnt he?
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I'm not calling for his head, he's our man for the foreseeable, for better or worse.
I do think he's useless though.
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| The City view on Hughes. on 08:33 - Sep 5 with 878 views | Charlie1 |
| The City view on Hughes. on 08:31 - Sep 5 by JonDoeman |
I'm not calling for his head, he's our man for the foreseeable, for better or worse.
I do think he's useless though.
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| The City view on Hughes. on 08:40 - Sep 5 with 874 views | Pommyhoop |
| The City view on Hughes. on 08:33 - Sep 5 by Charlie1 |
SO, the internet campaign has begun |
Yep .I feel the same vibe..
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| The City view on Hughes. on 08:42 - Sep 5 with 872 views | JonDoeman |
| The City view on Hughes. on 08:33 - Sep 5 by Charlie1 |
SO, the internet campaign has begun |
How is that post a campaign? Just one man's opinion. | |
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| The City view on Hughes. on 08:49 - Sep 5 with 865 views | Pommyhoop |
| The City view on Hughes. on 08:42 - Sep 5 by JonDoeman |
How is that post a campaign? Just one man's opinion. |
Its got to start somewhere.Even Hit Man started his campaign with a single post.
Any way you're a founder member of the 'Hughes is Clueless' club on REport are you not..  | |
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| The City view on Hughes. on 08:50 - Sep 5 with 863 views | Mytch_QPR |
| The City view on Hughes. on 06:34 - Sep 5 by Pommyhoop |
Yes I think he is a better Premiership manager than Warnock.His record speaks for itself.I'm counting City as as a completely different animal than Blackburn,Fulham and indeed ourselves.He did ok at Wales too didnt he?
Give him at least a couple of months till we call for his head. |
It's probably been said before, but I think the general view is that Warnock relies heavily on motivation and team spirit (rather like Holloway), rather than tactical awareness.
My view is that we may well have stayed up under Warnock, but in a different way. I think we would have been fired up and beaten the teams around us, but I couldn't see Warnock engineering the results we had against Spurs and Arsenal, for example. Hughes obviously has some tactical nous, and looks top have a good team around him. As one other poster stated, if he really has ambition then the QPR project has to work. |  |
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| The City view on Hughes. on 09:20 - Sep 5 with 839 views | Ferdy |
| The City view on Hughes. on 21:04 - Sep 4 by jimmya |
The worrying thing is football fans generally don't get it wrong. He needs time and time will tell, but we do seem to buy players on their way down rather than on their way up. I think the comment on Hughes needs to make this a success more than anyone for his own self worth is spot on. in Hughes we trust. |
"The worrying thing is football fans generally don't get it wrong." - I beg to differ, and I think we will use this thread as evidence of that in a few months time.
As far as I can remember Hughes has not really done a bad job at any of his previous clubs, why are we expecting him to suddenly be a bad manager now. Are we seriously now judging him on three games this season? Some of you lot are as bad as Tango and Cash. Lets at least give the poor fcuker until xmas before we hound him out of the club.
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| The City view on Hughes. on 09:26 - Sep 5 with 835 views | adhoc_qpr |
If we'd lost 2-1 to Swansea would everyone be panicking so much? Our other results were pretty much par with my expectations so far.
The Swansea game was one of those games - they had 7 shots on targets and scored 5 goals, we had about 8, scored none and lost our discipline.
God knows what it will be like on here if (as is quite possible) we lose the next 2 games! We're getting as bad as the Liverpool fans! | | | |
| The City view on Hughes. on 09:36 - Sep 5 with 816 views | Mytch_QPR |
| The City view on Hughes. on 09:26 - Sep 5 by adhoc_qpr |
If we'd lost 2-1 to Swansea would everyone be panicking so much? Our other results were pretty much par with my expectations so far.
The Swansea game was one of those games - they had 7 shots on targets and scored 5 goals, we had about 8, scored none and lost our discipline.
God knows what it will be like on here if (as is quite possible) we lose the next 2 games! We're getting as bad as the Liverpool fans! |
Good point. I think those of us with level heads are looking to Oct-Dec to get some points on the board and lift up the table.
We have a strong squad, Hughes and his backroom staff need to find the right combination. We saw hints at Man City as to how good we can be, patience required! | |
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| The City view on Hughes. on 09:41 - Sep 5 with 810 views | jamois |
Agree with much of what's been said. Agnostic. But with some reservations. Definitely ignoring the 'City view'. They haven't a bloody clue. Umpteen years in the wilderness, one wealthy owner and suddenly they're experts. Mancini nearly cocked it up for them last season with the most expensive collection of footballers in Prem history. Let's not forget we really nearly, and should have, beaten them. Also cast your minds back to the players after Hughes took over last season. Remember Joey et al banging on about how it was a different league in terms of tactical organisation and a plan compared to Warnock. My main beef with Hughes is just that he's had all summer to sort two things out and he hasn't:
1) a decent defence (and am negative that M'Bia is the answer)
2) a style of play with a tactical purpose
Both glaring issues so am sat here wondering WHY??? Even my 5yr old daughter would have tried to get these things sorted last frickin July. |  |
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| The City view on Hughes. on 09:45 - Sep 5 with 806 views | Phildo |
I do remember threads when Hughes was appointed pointing to Blackburn forum discussions were poster after poster said what a bloody good manager Hughes was.
I will make up my own mind about him when I have seen enough to make a judgement.
I wont be hanging the bloke as a result of what a bunch of City fans (who carry the baggage of him being ex united) say. |  | | |
| The City view on Hughes. on 10:03 - Sep 5 with 752 views | Charlie1 |
| The City view on Hughes. on 09:20 - Sep 5 by Ferdy |
"The worrying thing is football fans generally don't get it wrong." - I beg to differ, and I think we will use this thread as evidence of that in a few months time.
As far as I can remember Hughes has not really done a bad job at any of his previous clubs, why are we expecting him to suddenly be a bad manager now. Are we seriously now judging him on three games this season? Some of you lot are as bad as Tango and Cash. Lets at least give the poor fcuker until xmas before we hound him out of the club.
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| The City view on Hughes. on 10:07 - Sep 5 with 746 views | Charlie1 |
| The City view on Hughes. on 09:45 - Sep 5 by Phildo |
I do remember threads when Hughes was appointed pointing to Blackburn forum discussions were poster after poster said what a bloody good manager Hughes was.
I will make up my own mind about him when I have seen enough to make a judgement.
I wont be hanging the bloke as a result of what a bunch of City fans (who carry the baggage of him being ex united) say. |
"I will make up my own mind about him when I have seen enough to make a judgement."
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Sadly, the internet campaign has begun. People seem to think it's like a computer game. They are far to quick to judge and lack patience.
Nothing wrong with watching the game on a stream or TV, but a lot on here have narrow views because of it. Watching the game at the stadium you see the entire game / picture. Most don't and make rational judgements forming inaccurate opinions.
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| The City view on Hughes. on 10:13 - Sep 5 with 738 views | Northernr |
Whatever anybody says about him he did better with Wales than anybody has managed since, he did better with Blackburn than anybody has managed since - actually got to a cup final - and he finished eighth in the league in his one season with Fulham. These are all similar clubs and situations to the one he's got and is in now. He's not my favourite person or manager but his record is pretty decent. |  | | |
| The City view on Hughes. on 10:24 - Sep 5 with 720 views | ade_qpr |
He isn't the quickest starter fromm the gun but last season the last 10 games were better than the first 10 approx so give the man a chance.
He needs time to sort out the jigsaw puzzle that is the QPR squad and find his best team. Yes he did keep adding pieces but wouldn't you if a Cesar or a Pirate came along?
Bottom line QPR stands for Quiet Phoenix Rising as the back half of the season will be better than the first. |  |
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| The City view on Hughes. on 10:29 - Sep 5 with 715 views | JonDoeman |
| The City view on Hughes. on 10:13 - Sep 5 by Northernr |
Whatever anybody says about him he did better with Wales than anybody has managed since, he did better with Blackburn than anybody has managed since - actually got to a cup final - and he finished eighth in the league in his one season with Fulham. These are all similar clubs and situations to the one he's got and is in now. He's not my favourite person or manager but his record is pretty decent. |
Yes Clive his record is good, and it shows he has in the PAST, been a better manager than I've witnessed as of yet.
I know you have concerns about him as well, and I'm sure Charlie won't accuse you of watching on a stream.
We'll soon see, cos his excuses have run out. I won't comment on him again, so "campaign" over. | |
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| The City view on Hughes. on 10:49 - Sep 5 with 698 views | Northernr |
| The City view on Hughes. on 10:29 - Sep 5 by JonDoeman |
Yes Clive his record is good, and it shows he has in the PAST, been a better manager than I've witnessed as of yet.
I know you have concerns about him as well, and I'm sure Charlie won't accuse you of watching on a stream.
We'll soon see, cos his excuses have run out. I won't comment on him again, so "campaign" over. |
I'm pretty ambivalent so far to be fair. I hate everything to do with Man Utd and I hated him in particular when he played there so that's taken some getting over. My thoughts at the moment are:
1 - His job last season was to keep us up and we stayed up - I don't agree with writing that off because we were "lucky" as some seem keen to because we were unlucky in just as many games as we were lucky in. His league positions and performance in similar situations (small club/team in a big wide world) at Blackburn, Fulham and Wales have been good.
2 - The signings we've made so far have, by and large, been pretty decent. He spotted Dembele for Fulham, Samba for Blackburn and Kompany at Man City and while Park Ji Sung, Julio Cesar etc don't take much spotting nobody had heard of Diakite before he came to us and he's looked like a good find so far. Granero could be a master stroke.
3 - I wonder about his man management. I don't think he's been too clever with Young and Campbell, who both play in positions we lack cover in and could therefore still be of some use. I thought his comments about Rob Green last week where he said "if one of our goalkeepers has a problem and wants to leave, and we think that's best for all parties, we'll sort something out" were ridiculous. That's basically him transfer listing a goalkeeper he signed at great expense two months ago before Cesar has even stepped through the door. He seems to be into bridge burning. That said, players who have played with him before have no hesitation in signing for him again - Johnson, Zamora, Hoilett - so he must be doing something right.
4 - He doesn't know his best team, or the system he wants it to play in. Signing players without a system in mind is dangerous because you end up either trying to shoe horn in players you don't really have a use for at the expense of better options (Park instead of Taarabt at the weekend for example) or you end up with a load of your new signings not in the team (Cisse this weekend, Johnson the weekend before). I got the impression he rather fell into the system that worked well for us last year through a combination of Cisse's suspension and Derry being required to babysit Diakite and Barton.
5 - He's always taken ten games to get a team going, so I won't be worried until at least the end of November if things are going badly. | | | |
| The City view on Hughes. on 11:20 - Sep 5 with 679 views | Konk |
| The City view on Hughes. on 10:49 - Sep 5 by Northernr |
I'm pretty ambivalent so far to be fair. I hate everything to do with Man Utd and I hated him in particular when he played there so that's taken some getting over. My thoughts at the moment are:
1 - His job last season was to keep us up and we stayed up - I don't agree with writing that off because we were "lucky" as some seem keen to because we were unlucky in just as many games as we were lucky in. His league positions and performance in similar situations (small club/team in a big wide world) at Blackburn, Fulham and Wales have been good.
2 - The signings we've made so far have, by and large, been pretty decent. He spotted Dembele for Fulham, Samba for Blackburn and Kompany at Man City and while Park Ji Sung, Julio Cesar etc don't take much spotting nobody had heard of Diakite before he came to us and he's looked like a good find so far. Granero could be a master stroke.
3 - I wonder about his man management. I don't think he's been too clever with Young and Campbell, who both play in positions we lack cover in and could therefore still be of some use. I thought his comments about Rob Green last week where he said "if one of our goalkeepers has a problem and wants to leave, and we think that's best for all parties, we'll sort something out" were ridiculous. That's basically him transfer listing a goalkeeper he signed at great expense two months ago before Cesar has even stepped through the door. He seems to be into bridge burning. That said, players who have played with him before have no hesitation in signing for him again - Johnson, Zamora, Hoilett - so he must be doing something right.
4 - He doesn't know his best team, or the system he wants it to play in. Signing players without a system in mind is dangerous because you end up either trying to shoe horn in players you don't really have a use for at the expense of better options (Park instead of Taarabt at the weekend for example) or you end up with a load of your new signings not in the team (Cisse this weekend, Johnson the weekend before). I got the impression he rather fell into the system that worked well for us last year through a combination of Cisse's suspension and Derry being required to babysit Diakite and Barton.
5 - He's always taken ten games to get a team going, so I won't be worried until at least the end of November if things are going badly. |
I actually think Hughes is a decent manager - probably not suited to a top club, but more than acceptable for a middling one. He did very well with most of his signings at Blackburn, however, Dembele was very well thought of in The Lowlands and had been scouted by us the year before Hughes arrived, and Kompany was well known as a great prospect a couple of years before signing for City (even I was aware of his reputation and I watch very little European football). So, neither was exactly an unknown. That said, Hughes did have to actually sign them, so credit for that.
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| The City view on Hughes. on 11:32 - Sep 5 with 654 views | Charlie1 |
| The City view on Hughes. on 10:29 - Sep 5 by JonDoeman |
Yes Clive his record is good, and it shows he has in the PAST, been a better manager than I've witnessed as of yet.
I know you have concerns about him as well, and I'm sure Charlie won't accuse you of watching on a stream.
We'll soon see, cos his excuses have run out. I won't comment on him again, so "campaign" over. |
My stream comment wasn't just on this thread Joe but many, many others.
People make there mind up and then bang. It's ridic in my opinion.
Give the man some time, then judge him at the mid year. If we're bottom, adrift with poor performances then I'll be first in the queue calling for his head. But jeez, give the man a chance, a break and let him mold a premiership team. Rangers fans would do well to remember how far we've come in a short space of time. This is a revolution and people need to chill, be patient and support the team.
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| The City view on Hughes. on 11:34 - Sep 5 with 651 views | adhoc_qpr |
I also hate the way everyone brands out escape 'lucky' - we stayed up because we got more points than Bolton over the season.
On the last day of the season Bolton's two goals were a freak richochet and a mis-hit cross from 25 yards - and they call us lucky! | | | |
| The City view on Hughes. on 11:43 - Sep 5 with 639 views | jonno |
| The City view on Hughes. on 11:34 - Sep 5 by adhoc_qpr |
I also hate the way everyone brands out escape 'lucky' - we stayed up because we got more points than Bolton over the season.
On the last day of the season Bolton's two goals were a freak richochet and a mis-hit cross from 25 yards - and they call us lucky! |
Not to mention the perfectly legitimate goal we scored against them which was not given. |  | | |
| The City view on Hughes. on 11:54 - Sep 5 with 933 views | smegma |
| The City view on Hughes. on 11:34 - Sep 5 by adhoc_qpr |
I also hate the way everyone brands out escape 'lucky' - we stayed up because we got more points than Bolton over the season.
On the last day of the season Bolton's two goals were a freak richochet and a mis-hit cross from 25 yards - and they call us lucky! |
Me too. We 'stayed up by the skin of our teeth' is the often said mantra but no one ever mentions 'Citeh won the league by the skin of their teeth' though. They were 2-1 down to 10 men going into injury time. Everyone forgets how shockingly bad they were 2nd half that day. Botlon knew they HAD TO WIN to stay up, anything else and they were relegated. They didn't win, period. | | | |
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