| Oscar Pistorius on 12:47 - Aug 4 with 1819 views | Jeff |
they have proved to a very reasonable degree of certainty that he gains absolutely no advantage from using the blades over an 'able bodied' athlete... |  |
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| Oscar Pistorius on 13:02 - Aug 4 with 1785 views | JonDoeman |
| Oscar Pistorius on 12:47 - Aug 4 by Jeff |
they have proved to a very reasonable degree of certainty that he gains absolutely no advantage from using the blades over an 'able bodied' athlete... |
What about the future though, now the precedent has been set.
That's why have the Paralympics , this smacks of PC. |  |
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| Oscar Pistorius on 13:07 - Aug 4 with 1767 views | JonDoeman |
Sports engineer David James, a senior lecturer at England's Sheffield Hallam University, disagrees with Pistorius' inclusion in the Olympics on both scientific and ethical grounds.
"Sport is hard-nosed and brutal and bloody and has no place for sob stories. People want Oscar to run and do well. However, will they think the same if he wins?" James said. "I predict a backlash if he wins anything. They will attribute that performance to the blades. I think there would be real implications if he won."
Pistorius' case was settled - legally anyway - in 2008 when sports' highest court lifted the ban from able-bodied events imposed on him by the International Association of Athletics Federations.
The Court of Arbitration for Sport said that Pistorius probably gets some advantages from the springy, curved blades, but also suffers some disadvantages, and they even out in the end.
James doesn't agree.
"To say he doesn't have an advantage is stretching it," the sports engineer said. "When he's up to speed, he is more efficient than someone with muscle and bone. He can relocate his legs faster because they are lighter."
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/07/09/oscar-pistorius-carbon-fiber-blades-adv | |
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| Oscar Pistorius on 13:10 - Aug 4 with 1753 views | Jamie |
| Oscar Pistorius on 13:02 - Aug 4 by JonDoeman |
What about the future though, now the precedent has been set.
That's why have the Paralympics , this smacks of PC. |
Because he runs faster than many of the able bodied competitors and its been proven to the IAAF's satisfaction that he gains no advantage.
Why SHOULDNT he be allowed to run? |  | | |
| Oscar Pistorius on 13:12 - Aug 4 with 1747 views | JonDoeman |
| Oscar Pistorius on 13:10 - Aug 4 by Jamie |
Because he runs faster than many of the able bodied competitors and its been proven to the IAAF's satisfaction that he gains no advantage.
Why SHOULDNT he be allowed to run? |
Cos I don't believe the "no advantage" bit now, and I definitely know it won't be the case in future. | |
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| Oscar Pistorius on 13:15 - Aug 4 with 1739 views | JonDoeman |
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| Oscar Pistorius on 13:17 - Aug 4 with 1726 views | gobbles |
LaShawn Merritt, the Olympic champion, criticised the decision to let Pistorius take part.
Merritt is a convicted drug cheat so he should know about getting an unfair advantage.
Pistorius is an absolute hero for what he has achieved, the most remarkable man at the Olympics. He lights up a sport that has spent most of the past 20 years in the gutter. |  | | |
| Oscar Pistorius on 13:20 - Aug 4 with 1712 views | THEBUSH |
I think if he did manage to win the Gold, there would be enormous resentment against him, but I don't think it will happen, as for me the blades are no substitute for real legs. |  | | |
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| Oscar Pistorius on 13:21 - Aug 4 with 1704 views | HollowayRanger |
i disagree with it why cant able bodied people take part in the para olympics cant have it both ways?
but far more importantly what if he has an injury or falls those blades could do some damage to another runner
its why he isnt allowed to be in certain parts of the relay a decision he is trying to fight now that the door has been opened to him
still id rather see him compeat then chambers gatlin and all the other dirty drug cheats racing out there today |  |
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| Oscar Pistorius on 13:26 - Aug 4 with 1689 views | Jamie |
| Oscar Pistorius on 13:12 - Aug 4 by JonDoeman |
Cos I don't believe the "no advantage" bit now, and I definitely know it won't be the case in future. |
It a case of what you want to believe. If you want to believe a man with no shins gain an advantage over other professional athletes then you will.
If there was even an inkling of genuine doubt, the IAAF wouldnt have let him compete.
As his SB is well over a second off the pace, its really not worth getting worked up over. | | | |
| Oscar Pistorius on 13:26 - Aug 4 with 1691 views | JonDoeman |
| Oscar Pistorius on 13:17 - Aug 4 by gobbles |
LaShawn Merritt, the Olympic champion, criticised the decision to let Pistorius take part.
Merritt is a convicted drug cheat so he should know about getting an unfair advantage.
Pistorius is an absolute hero for what he has achieved, the most remarkable man at the Olympics. He lights up a sport that has spent most of the past 20 years in the gutter. |
"absolute hero for what he has achieved"
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Plenty of them in the Paralympics where he should be.
Be a different story if he had a chance of winning, and that's why it's a dangerous precedent. | |
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| Oscar Pistorius on 13:35 - Aug 4 with 1669 views | Northernr |
What Gobbles said. |  | | |
| Oscar Pistorius on 13:39 - Aug 4 with 1656 views | TheBlob |
Enhancements have been used in athletics from Greek/Roman times - rocks held in either hand to aid impetus to long jumpers for example.
You could argue athletic supports and sports bras aid performance.I think they should be banned forthwith. |  |
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| Oscar Pistorius on 13:46 - Aug 4 with 1638 views | hoopstilidie |
Bow.
Olympic bow.
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| Oscar Pistorius on 13:49 - Aug 4 with 1628 views | ade_qpr |
| Oscar Pistorius on 13:39 - Aug 4 by TheBlob |
Enhancements have been used in athletics from Greek/Roman times - rocks held in either hand to aid impetus to long jumpers for example.
You could argue athletic supports and sports bras aid performance.I think they should be banned forthwith. |
You could argue athletic supports and sports bras aid performance.
Bar humbug Blobby you could get a serious upper cut if the SB's are missing. Plus put your neck out keeping up with the movement.  |  |
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| Oscar Pistorius on 13:55 - Aug 4 with 1611 views | TheBlob |
| Oscar Pistorius on 13:49 - Aug 4 by ade_qpr |
You could argue athletic supports and sports bras aid performance.
Bar humbug Blobby you could get a serious upper cut if the SB's are missing. Plus put your neck out keeping up with the movement. |
Good job you've got independently swivelling eyes then innit?
If sports bras were banned the athlete with the biggest tits would be first to breast the tape.So expect the Chinese to breed a race with gigantic nipples. | |
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| Oscar Pistorius on 13:55 - Aug 4 with 1609 views | Jamie |
| Oscar Pistorius on 13:26 - Aug 4 by JonDoeman |
"absolute hero for what he has achieved"
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Plenty of them in the Paralympics where he should be.
Be a different story if he had a chance of winning, and that's why it's a dangerous precedent. |
Pretty sad world we live in where people with no legs are told they cant play with the able bodied kids.
How may I ask do YOU believe he gains an advantage through having no lower legs? | | | |
| Oscar Pistorius on 14:01 - Aug 4 with 1595 views | ade_qpr |
| Oscar Pistorius on 13:55 - Aug 4 by TheBlob |
Good job you've got independently swivelling eyes then innit?
If sports bras were banned the athlete with the biggest tits would be first to breast the tape.So expect the Chinese to breed a race with gigantic nipples. |
U going to do a Holloway with the Chinese 
answer that and not get in trouble  | |
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| Oscar Pistorius on 14:01 - Aug 4 with 1595 views | JonDoeman |
| Oscar Pistorius on 13:55 - Aug 4 by Jamie |
Pretty sad world we live in where people with no legs are told they cant play with the able bodied kids.
How may I ask do YOU believe he gains an advantage through having no lower legs? |
Did you not read what the sports engineer said further up?
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| Oscar Pistorius on 14:09 - Aug 4 with 1578 views | Jeff |
| Oscar Pistorius on 14:01 - Aug 4 by JonDoeman |
Did you not read what the sports engineer said further up?
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yeah, he can relocate his legs faster AT TOP SPEED. however, this relocation is not 'abnormal', and certainly not more than the top athletes manage. however, he is also at a massive disadvantage around corners and off the blocks. the initial results were debunked because they only measured Pistorius 'full flow'
the same article you've linked also includes the opinion of hugh herr, whose findings were accepted by the CAS and IAAF... | |
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| Oscar Pistorius on 14:14 - Aug 4 with 1565 views | Jamie |
| Oscar Pistorius on 14:01 - Aug 4 by JonDoeman |
Did you not read what the sports engineer said further up?
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Yes and as Jeff says it conveniently completely ignores the fact that Pistorous is at a huge disadvantage out of the blocks and in the bends.
The IAAF & CAS were very wary about ever letting him into the Olympics and they have been convinced which is good enough for me.
It's also adjudged on an individual basis so if another athlete turns up and runs faster than the Olympic champion they will be tested and if gaining an advantage, barred from competing. | | | |
| Oscar Pistorius on 14:21 - Aug 4 with 1552 views | JonDoeman |
As soon as someone on blades can win, it will be seen as an advantage, and then they'll kick them out, so what's the point ? | |
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| Oscar Pistorius on 14:53 - Aug 4 with 1483 views | Jamie |
| Oscar Pistorius on 14:21 - Aug 4 by JonDoeman |
As soon as someone on blades can win, it will be seen as an advantage, and then they'll kick them out, so what's the point ? |
Because even though he has no hope of winning, as a disabled person he wants to show that he can compete with able bodies athletes.
I'm genuinely shocked that anyone could have a problem with a disabled runner making up the numbers in a primarily able bodied event. | | | |
| Oscar Pistorius on 14:59 - Aug 4 with 938 views | HollowayRanger |
how strong hard sharpe are those blades like i say if one broke and he went flying he could do some real damage to himself and other runners thats my No 1 fear
man himself is incredible and such a hero and role model to others | |
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| Oscar Pistorius on 15:01 - Aug 4 with 934 views | JonDoeman |
| Oscar Pistorius on 14:53 - Aug 4 by Jamie |
Because even though he has no hope of winning, as a disabled person he wants to show that he can compete with able bodies athletes.
I'm genuinely shocked that anyone could have a problem with a disabled runner making up the numbers in a primarily able bodied event. |
Strange post Jamie, we're talking the very highest level of sport here.
With your attitude, they might as well let the wheelchairs in as well, now those buggers can shift! | |
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