| Dumphy 19:41 - Jan 7 with 3783 views | pearlstreet1 |
Dumphy it's time to act and act fast, let's stop going down the cheap route as usual and let's get someone in charge with experience. You fell very very lucky with Keith Hill cheap notion who did a brilliant job but face it that was a one off.
Chies Beach great youth coach but not a league manager,sort it out or I will tell you this we are going down.
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| Dumphy on 19:52 - Jan 7 with 2385 views | KenBoon |
We were relegated when we sold Chris O'Grady.
Chris Beech will do fine. I trust him to undo the mess made by Eyre (and the sale of CoG) and prepare us for the inevitable League 2 campaign next season. The board should focus on making sure this club can make money now the golden eggs aren't being laid. THAT is our biggest challenge, not the relegation fight. |  | | |
| Dumphy on 20:01 - Jan 7 with 2340 views | pearlstreet1 |
| Dumphy on 19:52 - Jan 7 by KenBoon |
We were relegated when we sold Chris O'Grady.
Chris Beech will do fine. I trust him to undo the mess made by Eyre (and the sale of CoG) and prepare us for the inevitable League 2 campaign next season. The board should focus on making sure this club can make money now the golden eggs aren't being laid. THAT is our biggest challenge, not the relegation fight. |
Agree when we sold the best ever player for Rochdale we were doomed, but once again we should have paid Ogradys wage bill and not been so narrow minded as we are always and gone forward and not back.Typical Rochdale lets do things on the cheap and hope for the best. | | | |
| Dumphy on 20:07 - Jan 7 with 2299 views | 442Dale |
| Dumphy on 20:01 - Jan 7 by pearlstreet1 |
Agree when we sold the best ever player for Rochdale we were doomed, but once again we should have paid Ogradys wage bill and not been so narrow minded as we are always and gone forward and not back.Typical Rochdale lets do things on the cheap and hope for the best. |
Wasn't COG offered the biggest ever contract for a Dale player?
Or are you saying we should have matched what Wednesday are paying him? |  |
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| Dumphy on 20:10 - Jan 7 with 2291 views | SalwaDale |
We had to ssell O'Grady. As for Beech, let's give him a little more time. Turning aaround the mess of a season is an incredible ask and anyone who can do that will have done very, very well. Let's give CB a little more time to prove himself. I have faith, a couple of new, permanent signings this week and I think we could be on our way. All I want is to see some progress and a team who give it a go. |  |
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| Dumphy on 20:11 - Jan 7 with 2284 views | pearlstreet1 |
| Dumphy on 20:07 - Jan 7 by 442Dale |
Wasn't COG offered the biggest ever contract for a Dale player?
Or are you saying we should have matched what Wednesday are paying him? |
Matched what they offered and kept him, and then gone forward rather than gone back ways on. | | | |
| Dumphy on 20:11 - Jan 7 with 2269 views | olympicdale |
| Dumphy on 19:52 - Jan 7 by KenBoon |
We were relegated when we sold Chris O'Grady.
Chris Beech will do fine. I trust him to undo the mess made by Eyre (and the sale of CoG) and prepare us for the inevitable League 2 campaign next season. The board should focus on making sure this club can make money now the golden eggs aren't being laid. THAT is our biggest challenge, not the relegation fight. |
I dont pay much attention to this anymore now, plenty of teams get their best striker sold but manage to survive, its simply now an excuse, one thats wearing a bit thin. |  |
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| Dumphy on 20:13 - Jan 7 with 2264 views | Meanwood_dale |
| Dumphy on 19:52 - Jan 7 by KenBoon |
We were relegated when we sold Chris O'Grady.
Chris Beech will do fine. I trust him to undo the mess made by Eyre (and the sale of CoG) and prepare us for the inevitable League 2 campaign next season. The board should focus on making sure this club can make money now the golden eggs aren't being laid. THAT is our biggest challenge, not the relegation fight. |
Agree, Beech will do fine & given time will undo the mess we now find ourselves in.
Our relegation was not caused by the the sale of O'Grady alone but more by the failure of the board to re-invest any of the proceeds of that sale or the sale of Done, Wiseman etc in half decent replacements.Instead, the new manager had to rely on loan after loan after loan, with the inevitable consequences.
Sadly, at the moment, Dunphy & co are playing the same hand again now that Beech has taken over.
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| Dumphy on 20:13 - Jan 7 with 2261 views | pearlstreet1 |
| Dumphy on 20:10 - Jan 7 by SalwaDale |
We had to ssell O'Grady. As for Beech, let's give him a little more time. Turning aaround the mess of a season is an incredible ask and anyone who can do that will have done very, very well. Let's give CB a little more time to prove himself. I have faith, a couple of new, permanent signings this week and I think we could be on our way. All I want is to see some progress and a team who give it a go. |
Have we got time ??????? | | | |
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| Dumphy on 20:17 - Jan 7 with 2242 views | SalwaDale |
I posted a while ago that I expect us to be relegated regardless of who is the manager, club is in a bit of a mess. An experienced. Head wouldn't guarantee survival but I see enough in Beech to think he's worth a good few games as caretaker. | |
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| Dumphy on 20:19 - Jan 7 with 2226 views | PassmondsBlue |
| Dumphy on 20:11 - Jan 7 by pearlstreet1 |
Matched what they offered and kept him, and then gone forward rather than gone back ways on. |
Matched what they offered and kept him, and then gone out of business | |
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| Dumphy on 20:23 - Jan 7 with 2201 views | SteTsGoldenBoot |
| Dumphy on 20:17 - Jan 7 by SalwaDale |
I posted a while ago that I expect us to be relegated regardless of who is the manager, club is in a bit of a mess. An experienced. Head wouldn't guarantee survival but I see enough in Beech to think he's worth a good few games as caretaker. |
I think we have 2 choices.
Try to get a Billy Davis, O'Driscall or Dowie short term and really go for survival.
Or give it Beech, give it a go for a few weeks (which I think Omerod and Bog show this), if we are doomed, give it him longer term and use the rest of the season to plan for next year. |  |
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| Dumphy on 20:24 - Jan 7 with 2191 views | 442Dale |
| Dumphy on 20:17 - Jan 7 by SalwaDale |
I posted a while ago that I expect us to be relegated regardless of who is the manager, club is in a bit of a mess. An experienced. Head wouldn't guarantee survival but I see enough in Beech to think he's worth a good few games as caretaker. |
Beech knows if he doesn't succeed he won't get the manager's job long term. If we're relegated he'll then have the decision to make about his role with the youth team. | |
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| Dumphy on 20:25 - Jan 7 with 2189 views | KenBoon |
| Dumphy on 20:11 - Jan 7 by olympicdale |
I dont pay much attention to this anymore now, plenty of teams get their best striker sold but manage to survive, its simply now an excuse, one thats wearing a bit thin. |
But he wasn't our best striker was he. He was so much more than that.
IMHO Beech is a good one. Let the fella make mistakes, so long as he learns from them he'll do ok. Next game is a bloody hard one. Actually, I can't think of a more difficult home game to have. A game most fans would expect you to win on name value, but in reality they're a horrible lot who'll be well prepared. | | | |
| Dumphy on 20:25 - Jan 7 with 2191 views | Nerazzurri |
| Dumphy on 20:11 - Jan 7 by pearlstreet1 |
Matched what they offered and kept him, and then gone forward rather than gone back ways on. |
Laughable. |  |
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| Dumphy on 20:30 - Jan 7 with 2149 views | 442Dale |
| Dumphy on 20:19 - Jan 7 by PassmondsBlue |
Matched what they offered and kept him, and then gone out of business |
So you'd have no problem with probably about a third of the playing budget going on one player? | |
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| Dumphy on 20:34 - Jan 7 with 2136 views | NotEyreClue |
Pearlstreet are you for real? For one, O'Grady was a class player but not Rochdale's best ever player. We would have had to offer COG a ridiculous amount of money to stay (maybe even more than Sheff Wed and even then they would have probably matched it) owing to the fact that he had an offer from a much bigger club which would be playing at a higher level than us in the not too distant future. Rochdale has always and will probably always be a selling club, if a good offer comes in for a player 9/10 times we will have to take it and rebuild, that's just the way it is. |  |
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| Dumphy on 20:43 - Jan 7 with 2116 views | pearlstreet1 |
| Dumphy on 20:34 - Jan 7 by NotEyreClue |
Pearlstreet are you for real? For one, O'Grady was a class player but not Rochdale's best ever player. We would have had to offer COG a ridiculous amount of money to stay (maybe even more than Sheff Wed and even then they would have probably matched it) owing to the fact that he had an offer from a much bigger club which would be playing at a higher level than us in the not too distant future. Rochdale has always and will probably always be a selling club, if a good offer comes in for a player 9/10 times we will have to take it and rebuild, that's just the way it is. |
Yes I am real and in my opinion cog is the best player I have seen play for Rochdale, I have watched Dale for 40 years you tell me who was a better player????? We are a club who are scared to death of going forward and spending money. | | | |
| Dumphy on 20:45 - Jan 7 with 2101 views | chuckleberry |
| Dumphy on 20:43 - Jan 7 by pearlstreet1 |
Yes I am real and in my opinion cog is the best player I have seen play for Rochdale, I have watched Dale for 40 years you tell me who was a better player????? We are a club who are scared to death of going forward and spending money. |
It's Dunphy, not Dumphy... |  | | |
| Dumphy on 20:47 - Jan 7 with 2093 views | pearlstreet1 |
| Dumphy on 20:45 - Jan 7 by chuckleberry |
It's Dunphy, not Dumphy... |
Should be dumbo | | | |
| Dumphy on 20:49 - Jan 7 with 2080 views | PassmondsBlue |
| Dumphy on 20:30 - Jan 7 by 442Dale |
So you'd have no problem with probably about a third of the playing budget going on one player? |
Sorry think you have got me wrong, if we had paid COG what Shef Wed are paying him we would soon be out of business.
We can not match the wages of other clubs with our crowds | |
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| Dumphy on 20:49 - Jan 7 with 2069 views | NotEyreClue |
| Dumphy on 20:43 - Jan 7 by pearlstreet1 |
Yes I am real and in my opinion cog is the best player I have seen play for Rochdale, I have watched Dale for 40 years you tell me who was a better player????? We are a club who are scared to death of going forward and spending money. |
Well you can't really compare players in different positions but if you're putting the question to me then I'll name 3 off the bat. Holt (EPL regular and doing very well), Lambert (One of the best players in the Ch'ship' and could play at a higher level) and of course Dawson (Established U21 England International with 3(?), impressing for West Brom in recent weeks and seriously pushing for a first team place at the tender age of 21). | |
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| Dumphy on 20:56 - Jan 7 with 2041 views | pearlstreet1 |
| Dumphy on 20:49 - Jan 7 by NotEyreClue |
Well you can't really compare players in different positions but if you're putting the question to me then I'll name 3 off the bat. Holt (EPL regular and doing very well), Lambert (One of the best players in the Ch'ship' and could play at a higher level) and of course Dawson (Established U21 England International with 3(?), impressing for West Brom in recent weeks and seriously pushing for a first team place at the tender age of 21). |
Good point but all I am saying is that we should have bent over backwards to sign COG and go forward and not let him go and try to replace him with likes of Grimes and that sort if shite player. We should be going forward. | | | |
| Dumphy on 20:59 - Jan 7 with 2026 views | 442Dale |
| Dumphy on 20:56 - Jan 7 by pearlstreet1 |
Good point but all I am saying is that we should have bent over backwards to sign COG and go forward and not let him go and try to replace him with likes of Grimes and that sort if shite player. We should be going forward. |
We did bend over backwards. Sheff Wed offered him more and the player wanted to leave.
What more could have been done?
Edit. We didn't replace him with Grimes. He was brought in to play alongside COG. [Post edited 1 Jan 1970 1:00]
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| Dumphy on 20:59 - Jan 7 with 2020 views | NotEyreClue |
I don't think we will have let O'Grady go without a fight. I'm sure Dunphy knew how important he was to the team and our survival chances, he will have offered him as much as we possibly could...To be honest, O'Grady doesn't seem like the kind of player to be motivated by money (if there is such a breed!). I think the lure of a bigger club and the very realistic possiblity of a higher standard of football will have been the deciding factor in him signing for The Owls. | |
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