| January Transfer Thread 13:27 - Dec 23 with 97644 views | KeithHaynes |
Done some asking and Oli McBurnie is most certainly up for a loan back to the UK this window. I’ve been told four Championship clubs are interested. This will all fall on the fee’s involved plus he is on in the region of €36,000 a week. Big numbers but we know how these things can be negotiated.
Do we have the money ?
Yes.
P&S will need to be positive and only the club really know where we are with that at this moment in time, It won’t be massively healthy. Oli has played fourteen games for Las Palmas this season with no return. He has never been a prolific striker, but could he settle into Luke’s team ? |  |
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| January Transfer Thread on 12:54 - Jan 21 with 2875 views | OptimisticJack |
I really doubt that any off field issues would have been sorted since Saturday.
I can only see a defeat tonight following with the same on Saturday against Norwich.
Effectively that kills off any play off hopes and pushes us towards a potential relegation fight.
This is the crazy Championship for you.
Would be best for all if Luke thew a sickie tonight and Saturday, Sheehan to stand in and reassess thereafter if not before.
I'm confident we could get a result under Sheehan.
If not I can only see 2 defeats coming and our season effectively finished.
We cannot afford to delay.
I will be there tonight as always in probably our lowest attendance gate for years.
I sincerely hope I'm very much wrong with my predictions if LW is in charge tonight. [Post edited 21 Jan 12:59]
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| January Transfer Thread on 15:16 - Jan 21 with 2582 views | Dr_Winston |
| January Transfer Thread on 12:33 - Jan 21 by Whiterockin |
Assuming we bought the current players to fit our style, do you want to continue with what we have had for the last 3 seasons. Personally I would hope if a new manager comes in he will drastically change our style and if it means changing the type of player we have so be it. |
Yep.
It's pretty clear that the Pep-Lite, possession obsessed style we've had for most of the last three or four years is not only ineffective at this level unless you possess a squad of players far superior to almost everyone else in the division, but is so dull to watch that it's actively driving down attendances.
More of the same is the last thing we need. Keeping our resources for whoever we employ to change things is the only call that makes sense. |  |
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| January Transfer Thread on 15:53 - Jan 21 with 2466 views | vetchonian |
| January Transfer Thread on 12:33 - Jan 21 by Whiterockin |
Assuming we bought the current players to fit our style, do you want to continue with what we have had for the last 3 seasons. Personally I would hope if a new manager comes in he will drastically change our style and if it means changing the type of player we have so be it. |
Didn't we try that with Duff? | |
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| January Transfer Thread on 16:04 - Jan 21 with 2428 views | Whiterockin |
| January Transfer Thread on 15:53 - Jan 21 by vetchonian |
Didn't we try that with Duff? |
Just because Duff was the wrong appointment it doesn't mean we don't need a change of footballing style. |  | | |
| January Transfer Thread on 16:28 - Jan 21 with 2373 views | vetchonian |
| January Transfer Thread on 16:04 - Jan 21 by Whiterockin |
Just because Duff was the wrong appointment it doesn't mean we don't need a change of footballing style. |
But what sort of style?
Will our supporters be patient?
Would our fan base be happy with Pullis type football?
I'd like to see the football like Forest and Brighton are playing .
The question remains though is there the knowledge at the senior level in the club to find the right person | |
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| January Transfer Thread on 16:32 - Jan 21 with 2346 views | Whiterockin |
| January Transfer Thread on 16:28 - Jan 21 by vetchonian |
But what sort of style?
Will our supporters be patient?
Would our fan base be happy with Pullis type football?
I'd like to see the football like Forest and Brighton are playing .
The question remains though is there the knowledge at the senior level in the club to find the right person |
Hence my thread on Ken Gude. We lack football knowledge at senior level at the club, American sports experience doesn't transfer to British football. | | | |
| January Transfer Thread on 23:17 - Jan 21 with 1937 views | grabsplatter |
| January Transfer Thread on 16:28 - Jan 21 by vetchonian |
But what sort of style?
Will our supporters be patient?
Would our fan base be happy with Pullis type football?
I'd like to see the football like Forest and Brighton are playing .
The question remains though is there the knowledge at the senior level in the club to find the right person |
No I don't want to see Pullis football but neither do I want to see slow tedious stuff either.
There's a balance somewhere between the 2 extremes.
We need far more pace & flair than we currently have.
The key is clearly far better recruitment.
Your last paragraph asks the question & I think most of us think that unfortunately the answer is no. [Post edited 21 Jan 23:27]
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| January Transfer Thread on 23:55 - Jan 21 with 1866 views | jackrmee |
| January Transfer Thread on 12:33 - Jan 21 by Whiterockin |
Assuming we bought the current players to fit our style, do you want to continue with what we have had for the last 3 seasons. Personally I would hope if a new manager comes in he will drastically change our style and if it means changing the type of player we have so be it. |
I do think the style needs changing, but not drastically.
We are always going to be a passing style possession based type of vibe.
Just need a manager with a few more ideas. Someone Potter-esque, if you will |  |
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| January Transfer Thread on 00:14 - Jan 22 with 1825 views | vetchonian |
| January Transfer Thread on 23:55 - Jan 21 by jackrmee |
I do think the style needs changing, but not drastically.
We are always going to be a passing style possession based type of vibe.
Just need a manager with a few more ideas. Someone Potter-esque, if you will |
the question remains though over two weeks on and no incomings.
Is this down to cost.....suggestions are we can't agree payment terms to Wycombe, probably as we want to spread the payments over a longer period for P and S purposes whilst perhaps Wycombe want cash up front?
Given WestBromgate has there been a hold put on spend to use the funds to pay off Williams or do the board feel he shouldn't be given players as he may well soon be toast?
Given so much positive chatter pre window what is happening?
Does anyone have a scoobie? | |
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| January Transfer Thread on 07:47 - Jan 22 with 1638 views | magicdaps10 |
Odd links with Luis Palma at Celtic.
Winger who can play at no 10 and even striker. |  |
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| January Transfer Thread on 07:50 - Jan 22 with 1624 views | magicdaps10 |
| January Transfer Thread on 23:55 - Jan 21 by jackrmee |
I do think the style needs changing, but not drastically.
We are always going to be a passing style possession based type of vibe.
Just need a manager with a few more ideas. Someone Potter-esque, if you will |
A decent winger and striker would make a huge difference.
Even throw in an attack minded central midfielder.
All the above was something we needed in the summer, we were still chasing a winger right up to the windows death and Vipotnik hasn't worked at all. Not having enough competition and knowing that you will make the match day squad week in week out isn't really going to give these players a push.
They need to know that they are being pushed. | |
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| January Transfer Thread on 07:55 - Jan 22 with 1603 views | pete |
| January Transfer Thread on 00:14 - Jan 22 by vetchonian |
the question remains though over two weeks on and no incomings.
Is this down to cost.....suggestions are we can't agree payment terms to Wycombe, probably as we want to spread the payments over a longer period for P and S purposes whilst perhaps Wycombe want cash up front?
Given WestBromgate has there been a hold put on spend to use the funds to pay off Williams or do the board feel he shouldn't be given players as he may well soon be toast?
Given so much positive chatter pre window what is happening?
Does anyone have a scoobie? |
who knows i dont think the people running the club know how to sort things.
The facts are plain for one and all to see , we are being run on a shoestring with a squad lacking in numbers and quality we have not beaten any side in the top 6 and at this time we are in a downward spiral which if not stopped ends with the trap door opening and us going through it
the thing is the fans were told a lot of bumph but NOTHING has changed from the last owners, a crowd of just over 13000 last night will drop even more, the club, supporters, and the players need a lift and the people who run the place have 12 days to improve things , hope they do but honestly cannot see it happening no new era as it stands lurching from one crisis to another shambles | | | |
| January Transfer Thread on 08:37 - Jan 22 with 1529 views | ThurrockJack92 |
| January Transfer Thread on 07:50 - Jan 22 by magicdaps10 |
A decent winger and striker would make a huge difference.
Even throw in an attack minded central midfielder.
All the above was something we needed in the summer, we were still chasing a winger right up to the windows death and Vipotnik hasn't worked at all. Not having enough competition and knowing that you will make the match day squad week in week out isn't really going to give these players a push.
They need to know that they are being pushed. |
We've signed a number of strikers that have all seemingly been duds. What they all have in common is that there was no one breaking the lines. In that regard I don't think any of them can be judged fairly. The absolute priority should be CBs and a first team CAM. |  | | |
| January Transfer Thread on 09:07 - Jan 22 with 1465 views | onehunglow |
| January Transfer Thread on 23:17 - Jan 21 by grabsplatter |
No I don't want to see Pullis football but neither do I want to see slow tedious stuff either.
There's a balance somewhere between the 2 extremes.
We need far more pace & flair than we currently have.
The key is clearly far better recruitment.
Your last paragraph asks the question & I think most of us think that unfortunately the answer is no. [Post edited 21 Jan 23:27]
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Nothing attractive about passing the ball for passing sake
We do that
We are obsessed
It doesn’t work | |
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| January Transfer Thread on 12:48 - Jan 22 with 1193 views | raynor94 |
Plymouth don't seem to have a problem signing a centre back from Holland, they have agreed a fee with Spartan Rotterdam for Mike Eerdhuijzen, on his way over to finalise the deal |  |
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| January Transfer Thread on 12:57 - Jan 22 with 1173 views | union_jack |
| January Transfer Thread on 12:48 - Jan 22 by raynor94 |
Plymouth don't seem to have a problem signing a centre back from Holland, they have agreed a fee with Spartan Rotterdam for Mike Eerdhuijzen, on his way over to finalise the deal |
They’ve got a bit of money to spend I believe before they fall foul of P&S.
Selling Whittaker will further help them.
And us of course! |  |
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| January Transfer Thread on 13:01 - Jan 22 with 1138 views | raynor94 |
| January Transfer Thread on 12:57 - Jan 22 by union_jack |
They’ve got a bit of money to spend I believe before they fall foul of P&S.
Selling Whittaker will further help them.
And us of course! |
But will we spend any money from a Whittaker sale🤔 | |
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| January Transfer Thread on 13:12 - Jan 22 with 1093 views | union_jack |
| January Transfer Thread on 13:01 - Jan 22 by raynor94 |
But will we spend any money from a Whittaker sale🤔 |
If it’s the right player / position / price we’ve got to. | |
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| January Transfer Thread on 13:26 - Jan 22 with 1045 views | OptimisticJack |
Darling will now have a 3 match ban.
Cabango looked as if he was carrying a niggle.
Centre half position needs addressing immediately.
We have messed around for too long.
This position is now of critical importance.
( I politely made my feelings known on this to Mr Coleman last night). | |
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| January Transfer Thread on 13:59 - Jan 22 with 922 views | swan65split |
| January Transfer Thread on 08:37 - Jan 22 by ThurrockJack92 |
We've signed a number of strikers that have all seemingly been duds. What they all have in common is that there was no one breaking the lines. In that regard I don't think any of them can be judged fairly. The absolute priority should be CBs and a first team CAM. |
strikers need supply, and so far ive seen a poor supply of crosses into them, either overhit, or not even attempted, MG looks like he cant cross a ball in play, free kocks yep, in play he cant beaat the first man.
our midfield is poor,thats why we seem to have brought in aa few wingers, and overlapping FBs. |  | | |
| January Transfer Thread on 14:35 - Jan 22 with 837 views | RichardO |
| January Transfer Thread on 13:59 - Jan 22 by swan65split |
strikers need supply, and so far ive seen a poor supply of crosses into them, either overhit, or not even attempted, MG looks like he cant cross a ball in play, free kocks yep, in play he cant beaat the first man.
our midfield is poor,thats why we seem to have brought in aa few wingers, and overlapping FBs. |
Would say that we are a bit all over the place up front and that could be because all the chopping and changing up top and in the advanced midfield role, I mention this because we are asking crosser of the ball to beat the first man but shouldn't we be looking to get a player across the front man be it aerially or to feet once the ball is in the penalty area anything can happen. Don't think we need a line of players static on the edge of the box waiting for things to happen, the movement to get in the front of the nearest defender to offer themselves to give options to the winger is poor. I know the box is crowded but it gives the winger the option to play to feet while driving into the box ensuring the ball is going towards the goal and making defenders turn. [Post edited 22 Jan 15:12]
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| January Transfer Thread on 14:39 - Jan 22 with 808 views | RichardO |
| January Transfer Thread on 23:55 - Jan 21 by jackrmee |
I do think the style needs changing, but not drastically.
We are always going to be a passing style possession based type of vibe.
Just need a manager with a few more ideas. Someone Potter-esque, if you will |
We need to stop the wide men getting crosses in, we are ok when the centrehalves are in position to defend the high balls but very had to stop once a team has got in behind us | | | |
| January Transfer Thread on 15:03 - Jan 22 with 721 views | Dr_Winston |
| January Transfer Thread on 13:59 - Jan 22 by swan65split |
strikers need supply, and so far ive seen a poor supply of crosses into them, either overhit, or not even attempted, MG looks like he cant cross a ball in play, free kocks yep, in play he cant beaat the first man.
our midfield is poor,thats why we seem to have brought in aa few wingers, and overlapping FBs. |
Time and time again we've seen forwards blamed for their lack of goals when the service they receive is non-existent. Last night Bianchini made at least half a dozen darting runs through the Sheff Utd defence and the pass never came. When we play Vipotnik he battles about as well as can be expected but again, gets almost nothing to attack.
I wouldn't be forming any kind of serious assessment of any of the forwards we've utilised since this time last year until we've seen them under a coach who doesn't think that attack is something that you use to put posters up. | |
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| January Transfer Thread on 15:13 - Jan 22 with 672 views | union_jack |
| January Transfer Thread on 15:03 - Jan 22 by Dr_Winston |
Time and time again we've seen forwards blamed for their lack of goals when the service they receive is non-existent. Last night Bianchini made at least half a dozen darting runs through the Sheff Utd defence and the pass never came. When we play Vipotnik he battles about as well as can be expected but again, gets almost nothing to attack.
I wouldn't be forming any kind of serious assessment of any of the forwards we've utilised since this time last year until we've seen them under a coach who doesn't think that attack is something that you use to put posters up. |
Hear, hear! | |
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