| Cop 29 13:32 - Nov 12 with 3220 views | raynor94 |
I see this morning Starmer has pledged to cut the UK emissions by 81% by 2035.
What is the point, when the US China and India can't even be bothered to attend.
No doubt we will be at the front of the queue to pay reparations to the so called poorer nations.
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| Cop 29 on 09:45 - Nov 14 with 1039 views | Boundy |
| Cop 29 on 11:34 - Nov 13 by Scotia |
The sea is much cleaner now than it was 20 or more years ago. The rivers also have a lot less human shit in them, it's just been replaced by cow and chicken shit. |
Even the quality of our drinking water has now become suspect , my theory too many buying bottled water has meant the water companies do not feel the need to maintain standards ,of anything it would appear. Blue badge status has been removed from a lot of our beaches so its been steady decline over the past 20 years. |  |
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| Cop 29 on 11:46 - Nov 14 with 1018 views | Scotia |
| Cop 29 on 09:45 - Nov 14 by Boundy |
Even the quality of our drinking water has now become suspect , my theory too many buying bottled water has meant the water companies do not feel the need to maintain standards ,of anything it would appear. Blue badge status has been removed from a lot of our beaches so its been steady decline over the past 20 years. |
Water quality probably hasn't improved massively on the whole in that last 20 years, but has improved massively on the 40 years before that. It's hugely dependant on weather. I wouldn't want ot go for a swim off the coast of valencia at the moment.
Blue flags aren't the best comparison, they are as much about facilities on the beach as water quality. | | | |
| Cop 29 on 15:57 - Nov 14 with 970 views | SullutaCreturned |
| Cop 29 on 08:07 - Nov 14 by Scotia |
I agree. Privatising the water companies was absolute madness. Nobody should be able to make a profit of any description from water. It's a good job oxygen can't be privatised.
I agree regarding ultaprocessed food too. But we need to stump up for some of the fault here, I think a burger from McDonalds should cost around £5 (a regular burger, not big Mac), 6 eggs a similar amont and a pint of milk should cost more than a pint of beer. Companies are putting pressure on the farmers and hitting their profits becasue we want them to. The farmers cut corners, mass produce stuff and destroy the planet.
We want things too cheap and easily available. We're basically fat and lazy. |
It's the copmanies that are causing the problem ,not the farmers. Farmers are being driven bankrupt but the supermarkets nake massive profits. | | | |
| Cop 29 on 18:19 - Nov 14 with 951 views | Scotia |
| Cop 29 on 15:57 - Nov 14 by SullutaCreturned |
It's the copmanies that are causing the problem ,not the farmers. Farmers are being driven bankrupt but the supermarkets nake massive profits. |
Farmers don't have much choice really, but we want too much. I honestly don't think we'd be prepared to pay for sustainably produced food. | | | |
| Cop 29 on 19:04 - Nov 14 with 941 views | SullutaCreturned |
| Cop 29 on 18:19 - Nov 14 by Scotia |
Farmers don't have much choice really, but we want too much. I honestly don't think we'd be prepared to pay for sustainably produced food. |
What we need is less cheap UHP food and healthy food at a reaasonable price. We could produce less food in reality because so much is thrown away, by householders and by supermarkets.
Again the big problem is corporations, it is the intensive farming that is part of the problem. look at the Wye valley, the river itself, as you said polluted by chicken poo from intensive chicken farms. Run off from pesticides is damaging the rivers and seas too.
That's why all this climate stuff is nonsense, they want to stop us emitting CO2 yet they still allow us to pollute the land, pollute the seas and they fly off in thousands of flights to the COP meetings to have expensive jollies at our expense.
It's all bullshit. the politiucians are treating us like fools. | | | |
| Cop 29 on 19:17 - Nov 14 with 926 views | onehunglow |
| Cop 29 on 18:19 - Nov 14 by Scotia |
Farmers don't have much choice really, but we want too much. I honestly don't think we'd be prepared to pay for sustainably produced food. |
Good point
Not unlike w ting a welfare state but not being prepared to pay for it | |
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| Cop 29 on 09:22 - Nov 15 with 878 views | Scotia |
| Cop 29 on 19:04 - Nov 14 by SullutaCreturned |
What we need is less cheap UHP food and healthy food at a reaasonable price. We could produce less food in reality because so much is thrown away, by householders and by supermarkets.
Again the big problem is corporations, it is the intensive farming that is part of the problem. look at the Wye valley, the river itself, as you said polluted by chicken poo from intensive chicken farms. Run off from pesticides is damaging the rivers and seas too.
That's why all this climate stuff is nonsense, they want to stop us emitting CO2 yet they still allow us to pollute the land, pollute the seas and they fly off in thousands of flights to the COP meetings to have expensive jollies at our expense.
It's all bullshit. the politiucians are treating us like fools. |
We want to consume too much food that uses too many resources to produce.
It's mental that we'd happily pay £5 for what is basically water, malt, hops and barley heated up a bit and chucked in a barrel but expect to pay less than £1 for milk and all the resources needed to produce that.
There's a very good reason why most of the world doesn't use much dairy produce. | | | |
| Cop 29 on 15:13 - Nov 15 with 853 views | SullutaCreturned |
| Cop 29 on 09:22 - Nov 15 by Scotia |
We want to consume too much food that uses too many resources to produce.
It's mental that we'd happily pay £5 for what is basically water, malt, hops and barley heated up a bit and chucked in a barrel but expect to pay less than £1 for milk and all the resources needed to produce that.
There's a very good reason why most of the world doesn't use much dairy produce. |
In 2019, about 6 billion people, or more than 80% of the world's population, regularly consumed milk or other dairy products. Milk is produced and consumed in almost all countries, and is one of the top five agricultural commodities in most countries
oatly.com/things-we-do/initiatives/schoolmilk/global-milk-and-dairy-consumption | | | |
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| Cop 29 on 15:45 - Nov 15 with 839 views | Scotia |
| Cop 29 on 15:13 - Nov 15 by SullutaCreturned |
In 2019, about 6 billion people, or more than 80% of the world's population, regularly consumed milk or other dairy products. Milk is produced and consumed in almost all countries, and is one of the top five agricultural commodities in most countries
oatly.com/things-we-do/initiatives/schoolmilk/global-milk-and-dairy-consumption |
But in nowhere near the quantities that we do in the west. China for example historically use very little dairy, it's recently gaining in popularity due to students studying in the UK taking their tastes back home.
My point is it's popular in countries that use intensive, almost industrial scale agriculture. It's a filthy industry which forces down the cost of food to artificially low levels to satisfy demand. | | | |
| Cop 29 on 10:32 - Nov 17 with 799 views | controversial_jack |
| Cop 29 on 15:45 - Nov 15 by Scotia |
But in nowhere near the quantities that we do in the west. China for example historically use very little dairy, it's recently gaining in popularity due to students studying in the UK taking their tastes back home.
My point is it's popular in countries that use intensive, almost industrial scale agriculture. It's a filthy industry which forces down the cost of food to artificially low levels to satisfy demand. |
There aren't many cultures worldwide where adults actually drink milk | | | |
| Cop 29 on 13:10 - Nov 17 with 763 views | felixstowe_jack |
| Cop 29 on 10:32 - Nov 17 by controversial_jack |
There aren't many cultures worldwide where adults actually drink milk |
Most people drink milk except South East Asia as they are lactose intolerant. | |
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| Cop 29 on 14:50 - Nov 17 with 733 views | Joesus_Of_Narbereth |
| Cop 29 on 10:32 - Nov 17 by controversial_jack |
There aren't many cultures worldwide where adults actually drink milk |
Cheese and yoghurts are very popular all around the world though. |  |
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| Cop 29 on 18:52 - Nov 17 with 676 views | SullutaCreturned |
| Cop 29 on 10:32 - Nov 17 by controversial_jack |
There aren't many cultures worldwide where adults actually drink milk |
Except that around 80% of the population worldwide drink milk,
fao.org/dairy-production-products/products/milk-and-milk-products/en#:~:text=Did%20you%20know%3F,people%20live%20in%20developing%20countries. | | | |
| Cop 29 on 19:33 - Nov 17 with 651 views | Flashberryjack |
470 delegates go on a jolly that achieved F all, that's an absolute disgrace. |  |
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| Cop 29 on 20:13 - Nov 17 with 619 views | SullutaCreturned |
| Cop 29 on 19:33 - Nov 17 by Flashberryjack |
470 delegates go on a jolly that achieved F all, that's an absolute disgrace. |
It is and always has been. Thousands of flights to have a massive jolly and every time they come back telling the rest of us we should fly less, use our cars less and keep charging us ever more for their green initaitives that don't amount to anything very much in the UK. | | | |
| Cop 29 on 21:15 - Nov 17 with 580 views | max936 |
| Cop 29 on 20:13 - Nov 17 by SullutaCreturned |
It is and always has been. Thousands of flights to have a massive jolly and every time they come back telling the rest of us we should fly less, use our cars less and keep charging us ever more for their green initaitives that don't amount to anything very much in the UK. |
None of them know what living is like for the working man and woman, they're sitting up there in their Ivory Towers thinking all is sweet in their lives and making up new rules for the rest of us plebs to abide to.
Look at Dickford for one a man that doesn't drive making rules like the 20mph limit which doesn't affect him one iota, it affects the working man whose as to travel around with work, that's on top of his ridiculous decision to pull the plug on the M4 relief road.
Starmer and Reeves are another pair without a clue. |  |
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| Cop 29 on 10:04 - Nov 18 with 526 views | Scotia |
| Cop 29 on 20:13 - Nov 17 by SullutaCreturned |
It is and always has been. Thousands of flights to have a massive jolly and every time they come back telling the rest of us we should fly less, use our cars less and keep charging us ever more for their green initaitives that don't amount to anything very much in the UK. |
This is exactly the kind of thing the government need to wise up on. It's very difficult for anybody to defend this kind of thing and just alienates people.
As much as climate change is potentially catastrophic the UK can't really do much about it on our own and we need to be realistic as to how much influence we can have on the rest of the world.
Nevertheless a push towards net zero would be great for the UK, at a sensible cost. unfortunately it suffers from the usual click bait nonsense in the Telegrpah/Mail/GB News and Reform. | | | |
| Cop 29 on 14:43 - Nov 18 with 483 views | felixstowe_jack |
| Cop 29 on 10:04 - Nov 18 by Scotia |
This is exactly the kind of thing the government need to wise up on. It's very difficult for anybody to defend this kind of thing and just alienates people.
As much as climate change is potentially catastrophic the UK can't really do much about it on our own and we need to be realistic as to how much influence we can have on the rest of the world.
Nevertheless a push towards net zero would be great for the UK, at a sensible cost. unfortunately it suffers from the usual click bait nonsense in the Telegrpah/Mail/GB News and Reform. |
Fortunately the majority realise there is no point in killing our economy to make a tiny difference to the WORLDS CO2 emissions. We are still going to need gas and oil for many years to come.
Far better to exploit our natural resources including oil, gas and coal, rather than import it from thousands of miles away.
Amazing Starmer took over 400 delegates and support staff to the recent COP conference in far off Azerbaijan. The Worlds biggest polluters China, India and Brazil did not attend. Neither did France and Germany. | |
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| Cop 29 on 15:42 - Nov 19 with 392 views | SullutaCreturned |
| Cop 29 on 14:43 - Nov 18 by felixstowe_jack |
Fortunately the majority realise there is no point in killing our economy to make a tiny difference to the WORLDS CO2 emissions. We are still going to need gas and oil for many years to come.
Far better to exploit our natural resources including oil, gas and coal, rather than import it from thousands of miles away.
Amazing Starmer took over 400 delegates and support staff to the recent COP conference in far off Azerbaijan. The Worlds biggest polluters China, India and Brazil did not attend. Neither did France and Germany. |
Over 400, how much did that cost us? Disgusting.
That's 400 flights, 400 hoyel stays, 400 expences tabs, I wonder how much alcohol they had at taxpayers expense? | | | |
| Cop 29 on 16:11 - Nov 19 with 373 views | controversial_jack |
| Cop 29 on 18:52 - Nov 17 by SullutaCreturned |
Except that around 80% of the population worldwide drink milk,
fao.org/dairy-production-products/products/milk-and-milk-products/en#:~:text=Did%20you%20know%3F,people%20live%20in%20developing%20countries. |
Some of the most populous countries don't drink a lot of milk, China,Japan, Thailand, many African countries. I only have a touch in my tea. I couldn't drink a glass of it | | | |
| Cop 29 on 18:16 - Nov 19 with 332 views | Boundy |
| Cop 29 on 16:11 - Nov 19 by controversial_jack |
Some of the most populous countries don't drink a lot of milk, China,Japan, Thailand, many African countries. I only have a touch in my tea. I couldn't drink a glass of it |
is your lack of drinking milk the reason why you have stunted growth? The Dutch drink it by the gallon hence their above average height. | |
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| Cop 29 on 19:22 - Nov 19 with 310 views | SullutaCreturned |
| Cop 29 on 16:11 - Nov 19 by controversial_jack |
Some of the most populous countries don't drink a lot of milk, China,Japan, Thailand, many African countries. I only have a touch in my tea. I couldn't drink a glass of it |
Except that's nothing like what you said.
And I quote "There aren't many cultures worldwide where adults actually drink milk" and it is that which I replied to, so you are very wrong. How much milk they drink is irrelevant, 4 out of 5 people drink milk. In China in 2023 over 16,700,000 metric tonnes of milk were consumed, Brazil 10.8 million, Russia 6.8 million.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_milk_consumption_per_capita | | | |
| Cop 29 on 14:17 - Nov 20 with 245 views | controversial_jack |
| Cop 29 on 18:16 - Nov 19 by Boundy |
is your lack of drinking milk the reason why you have stunted growth? The Dutch drink it by the gallon hence their above average height. |
i'm not stunted i'm massive | | | |
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