The tainted First Minister on 21:34 - Jul 22 with 1386 views | Boundy |
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The tainted First Minister on 16:04 - Jul 23 with 1294 views | Boundy |
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The tainted First Minister on 22:41 - Aug 28 with 1114 views | Ohyeah | According to Nation Cymru. He is wanting to make a comeback in September. Disgraced former First Minister Vaughan Gething has told his successor Eluned Morgan he is “ready to serve” in her Cabinet if she offers him a job in the reshuffle planned for September, we understand. Nation.Cymru has also been told that Mr Gething, who was forced to resign after accepting donations totalling £200,000 from a convicted criminal and lying to the UK Covid Inquiry after deleting messages exchanged with ministerial colleagues because they were subject to disclosure under freedom of information legislation, has spoken of how he can’t afford to live on a backbench MS’s salary of £72,057. We also understand that Mr Gething has told people he would like a seat in the House of Lords and a ministerial job in the UK Labour government. When telling Baroness Morgan that he was “ready to serve” in her Cabinet, it is understood he joked that taking charge of health again would mean “divorce” for him. A senior Welsh Labour source said: “What do you say? You can’t resign as First Minister in July because you’ve lost the confidence of the Senedd and your colleagues and return as a minister in September. It just isn’t credible. “What would anyone think, meeting a former First Minister in such circumstances after they’ve had to resign because of everything that’s happened? It’s so depressing that this is even being spoken of as a possibility. “The level of entitlement on Vaughan’s part is absolutely breathtaking.” Mr Gething’s resignation was forced after four Cabinet members quit in the wake of his insistence on remaining as First Minister despite losing a motion of no confidence when two Labour backbenchers abstained. The scandals surrounding his leadership began when Nation.Cymru revealed how he had accepted donations totalling £200k from Cardiff waste company Dauson Environmental Group, whose owner David Neal had received two suspended prison sentences for dumping toxic sludge in the protected landscape of the Gwent Levels. It later emerged that the group was under investigation for underpaying landfill tax to the Welsh Government by wrongly classifying the kinds of waste it was dumping. Nation.Cymru also published the screenshot of a message from a ministerial iMessage chat that showed Mr Gething admitting that he was deleting messages because they would be disclosable under freedom of information laws. He failed to mention this in sworn evidence to the UK Covid Inquiry, claiming messages had been deleted when his phone was being “refitted” by the Senedd’s IT department. Subsequently Mr Gething sacked Social Partnership Minister Hannah Blythyn, accusing her of leaking the screenshot to Nation.Cymru. Ms Blythyn has consistently denied being the source of the leak, and Nation.Cymru took the unusual step of confirming it had not received the screenshot from her. Tipping point While Keir Starmer initially backed Mr Gething, saying he had broken no rules, a tipping point was reached when he was clearly seen by Labour as more of a liability than an asset. Mr Gething’s approval ratings in Wales dropped significantly, and one poll measuring voting intention at the next Senedd election in 2026 put Labour just one percentage point ahead of Plaid Cymru. Senior figures in the party eventually persuaded Mr Gething to resign, although he has shown no remorse for his behaviour, asserting that he has done nothing wrong. He and his supporters have also made unfounded allegations of racism against Welsh media outlets including Nation.Cymru for their coverage of the scandal. Responding to the news that Mr Gething may be in line for a swift comeback, Plaid Cymru MS Mabon ap Gwynfor said: “This shows that Labour’s priority has never been Wales but is instead their ambition to serve their Westminster bosses. The fact that a former Labour FM apparently complains about not being able to live on the salary of an MS shows how out of touch he is with the ordinary working person in Wales, most of whom can only dream of earning £70,000 a year.” Alarming The campaign group Covid Bereaved Families for Justice Cymru responded with a statement that said: “Vaughan Gething should never have been leader of Wales. Whether he’s suitable for yet another ministerial role is for the new First Minister to decide. “For the Covid bereaved families in Wales our concern is that as health minister he proactively withheld evidence from the UK Covid Inquiry. The only inquiry we have to get answers and change in Wales. “Of course he doesn’t want the health portfolio. It’s alarming that he thinks it’s even on offer. The First Minister would be foolhardy to bring him back when he failed to prepare and protect the people of Wales. He must know that? “As Mags, who lost her lovely mum to care-home-acquired Covid in Wave 1 says: ‘Didn’t do his job and we all live with the consequences and trauma of his non-action.’ “The First Minister would be naive to believe Gething’s woes have disappeared. He still has so many questions to answer. “He would bring a cloud dishonestly and disrepute to any role. Does it set out a positive stall for her to recycle someone with so much integrity to rebuild? “Wales needs positive change – not the inevitably negative distraction he creates.” Another Labour source said: “It’s not known whether Eluned will give him a job or not. It would be disastrous for Labour if she does. Surely Kevin Brennan [the former Cardiff West MP who now heads the Welsh Government’s team of special advisers] will advise her against doing so.” Wow just wow.. https://nation.cymru/news/vaughan-gething-tells-eluned-morgan-he-wants-a-place-i | ![](/images/avatars/0.gif) | | ![](/images/icons/ignore-user.png) |
The tainted First Minister on 23:10 - Aug 28 with 1099 views | majorraglan |
The tainted First Minister on 22:41 - Aug 28 by Ohyeah | According to Nation Cymru. He is wanting to make a comeback in September. Disgraced former First Minister Vaughan Gething has told his successor Eluned Morgan he is “ready to serve” in her Cabinet if she offers him a job in the reshuffle planned for September, we understand. Nation.Cymru has also been told that Mr Gething, who was forced to resign after accepting donations totalling £200,000 from a convicted criminal and lying to the UK Covid Inquiry after deleting messages exchanged with ministerial colleagues because they were subject to disclosure under freedom of information legislation, has spoken of how he can’t afford to live on a backbench MS’s salary of £72,057. We also understand that Mr Gething has told people he would like a seat in the House of Lords and a ministerial job in the UK Labour government. When telling Baroness Morgan that he was “ready to serve” in her Cabinet, it is understood he joked that taking charge of health again would mean “divorce” for him. A senior Welsh Labour source said: “What do you say? You can’t resign as First Minister in July because you’ve lost the confidence of the Senedd and your colleagues and return as a minister in September. It just isn’t credible. “What would anyone think, meeting a former First Minister in such circumstances after they’ve had to resign because of everything that’s happened? It’s so depressing that this is even being spoken of as a possibility. “The level of entitlement on Vaughan’s part is absolutely breathtaking.” Mr Gething’s resignation was forced after four Cabinet members quit in the wake of his insistence on remaining as First Minister despite losing a motion of no confidence when two Labour backbenchers abstained. The scandals surrounding his leadership began when Nation.Cymru revealed how he had accepted donations totalling £200k from Cardiff waste company Dauson Environmental Group, whose owner David Neal had received two suspended prison sentences for dumping toxic sludge in the protected landscape of the Gwent Levels. It later emerged that the group was under investigation for underpaying landfill tax to the Welsh Government by wrongly classifying the kinds of waste it was dumping. Nation.Cymru also published the screenshot of a message from a ministerial iMessage chat that showed Mr Gething admitting that he was deleting messages because they would be disclosable under freedom of information laws. He failed to mention this in sworn evidence to the UK Covid Inquiry, claiming messages had been deleted when his phone was being “refitted” by the Senedd’s IT department. Subsequently Mr Gething sacked Social Partnership Minister Hannah Blythyn, accusing her of leaking the screenshot to Nation.Cymru. Ms Blythyn has consistently denied being the source of the leak, and Nation.Cymru took the unusual step of confirming it had not received the screenshot from her. Tipping point While Keir Starmer initially backed Mr Gething, saying he had broken no rules, a tipping point was reached when he was clearly seen by Labour as more of a liability than an asset. Mr Gething’s approval ratings in Wales dropped significantly, and one poll measuring voting intention at the next Senedd election in 2026 put Labour just one percentage point ahead of Plaid Cymru. Senior figures in the party eventually persuaded Mr Gething to resign, although he has shown no remorse for his behaviour, asserting that he has done nothing wrong. He and his supporters have also made unfounded allegations of racism against Welsh media outlets including Nation.Cymru for their coverage of the scandal. Responding to the news that Mr Gething may be in line for a swift comeback, Plaid Cymru MS Mabon ap Gwynfor said: “This shows that Labour’s priority has never been Wales but is instead their ambition to serve their Westminster bosses. The fact that a former Labour FM apparently complains about not being able to live on the salary of an MS shows how out of touch he is with the ordinary working person in Wales, most of whom can only dream of earning £70,000 a year.” Alarming The campaign group Covid Bereaved Families for Justice Cymru responded with a statement that said: “Vaughan Gething should never have been leader of Wales. Whether he’s suitable for yet another ministerial role is for the new First Minister to decide. “For the Covid bereaved families in Wales our concern is that as health minister he proactively withheld evidence from the UK Covid Inquiry. The only inquiry we have to get answers and change in Wales. “Of course he doesn’t want the health portfolio. It’s alarming that he thinks it’s even on offer. The First Minister would be foolhardy to bring him back when he failed to prepare and protect the people of Wales. He must know that? “As Mags, who lost her lovely mum to care-home-acquired Covid in Wave 1 says: ‘Didn’t do his job and we all live with the consequences and trauma of his non-action.’ “The First Minister would be naive to believe Gething’s woes have disappeared. He still has so many questions to answer. “He would bring a cloud dishonestly and disrepute to any role. Does it set out a positive stall for her to recycle someone with so much integrity to rebuild? “Wales needs positive change – not the inevitably negative distraction he creates.” Another Labour source said: “It’s not known whether Eluned will give him a job or not. It would be disastrous for Labour if she does. Surely Kevin Brennan [the former Cardiff West MP who now heads the Welsh Government’s team of special advisers] will advise her against doing so.” Wow just wow.. https://nation.cymru/news/vaughan-gething-tells-eluned-morgan-he-wants-a-place-i |
Needs to cut his cloth or better still in my opinion pack his bags and leave the Senedd and politics and go back to being a solicitor somewhere. I don’t believe he’s worthy of being in an elected office. House of Lords …… crackers! | ![](/images/avatars/0.gif) | | ![](/images/icons/ignore-user.png) |
The tainted First Minister on 08:53 - Aug 29 with 1034 views | Boundy |
The tainted First Minister on 22:41 - Aug 28 by Ohyeah | According to Nation Cymru. He is wanting to make a comeback in September. Disgraced former First Minister Vaughan Gething has told his successor Eluned Morgan he is “ready to serve” in her Cabinet if she offers him a job in the reshuffle planned for September, we understand. Nation.Cymru has also been told that Mr Gething, who was forced to resign after accepting donations totalling £200,000 from a convicted criminal and lying to the UK Covid Inquiry after deleting messages exchanged with ministerial colleagues because they were subject to disclosure under freedom of information legislation, has spoken of how he can’t afford to live on a backbench MS’s salary of £72,057. We also understand that Mr Gething has told people he would like a seat in the House of Lords and a ministerial job in the UK Labour government. When telling Baroness Morgan that he was “ready to serve” in her Cabinet, it is understood he joked that taking charge of health again would mean “divorce” for him. A senior Welsh Labour source said: “What do you say? You can’t resign as First Minister in July because you’ve lost the confidence of the Senedd and your colleagues and return as a minister in September. It just isn’t credible. “What would anyone think, meeting a former First Minister in such circumstances after they’ve had to resign because of everything that’s happened? It’s so depressing that this is even being spoken of as a possibility. “The level of entitlement on Vaughan’s part is absolutely breathtaking.” Mr Gething’s resignation was forced after four Cabinet members quit in the wake of his insistence on remaining as First Minister despite losing a motion of no confidence when two Labour backbenchers abstained. The scandals surrounding his leadership began when Nation.Cymru revealed how he had accepted donations totalling £200k from Cardiff waste company Dauson Environmental Group, whose owner David Neal had received two suspended prison sentences for dumping toxic sludge in the protected landscape of the Gwent Levels. It later emerged that the group was under investigation for underpaying landfill tax to the Welsh Government by wrongly classifying the kinds of waste it was dumping. Nation.Cymru also published the screenshot of a message from a ministerial iMessage chat that showed Mr Gething admitting that he was deleting messages because they would be disclosable under freedom of information laws. He failed to mention this in sworn evidence to the UK Covid Inquiry, claiming messages had been deleted when his phone was being “refitted” by the Senedd’s IT department. Subsequently Mr Gething sacked Social Partnership Minister Hannah Blythyn, accusing her of leaking the screenshot to Nation.Cymru. Ms Blythyn has consistently denied being the source of the leak, and Nation.Cymru took the unusual step of confirming it had not received the screenshot from her. Tipping point While Keir Starmer initially backed Mr Gething, saying he had broken no rules, a tipping point was reached when he was clearly seen by Labour as more of a liability than an asset. Mr Gething’s approval ratings in Wales dropped significantly, and one poll measuring voting intention at the next Senedd election in 2026 put Labour just one percentage point ahead of Plaid Cymru. Senior figures in the party eventually persuaded Mr Gething to resign, although he has shown no remorse for his behaviour, asserting that he has done nothing wrong. He and his supporters have also made unfounded allegations of racism against Welsh media outlets including Nation.Cymru for their coverage of the scandal. Responding to the news that Mr Gething may be in line for a swift comeback, Plaid Cymru MS Mabon ap Gwynfor said: “This shows that Labour’s priority has never been Wales but is instead their ambition to serve their Westminster bosses. The fact that a former Labour FM apparently complains about not being able to live on the salary of an MS shows how out of touch he is with the ordinary working person in Wales, most of whom can only dream of earning £70,000 a year.” Alarming The campaign group Covid Bereaved Families for Justice Cymru responded with a statement that said: “Vaughan Gething should never have been leader of Wales. Whether he’s suitable for yet another ministerial role is for the new First Minister to decide. “For the Covid bereaved families in Wales our concern is that as health minister he proactively withheld evidence from the UK Covid Inquiry. The only inquiry we have to get answers and change in Wales. “Of course he doesn’t want the health portfolio. It’s alarming that he thinks it’s even on offer. The First Minister would be foolhardy to bring him back when he failed to prepare and protect the people of Wales. He must know that? “As Mags, who lost her lovely mum to care-home-acquired Covid in Wave 1 says: ‘Didn’t do his job and we all live with the consequences and trauma of his non-action.’ “The First Minister would be naive to believe Gething’s woes have disappeared. He still has so many questions to answer. “He would bring a cloud dishonestly and disrepute to any role. Does it set out a positive stall for her to recycle someone with so much integrity to rebuild? “Wales needs positive change – not the inevitably negative distraction he creates.” Another Labour source said: “It’s not known whether Eluned will give him a job or not. It would be disastrous for Labour if she does. Surely Kevin Brennan [the former Cardiff West MP who now heads the Welsh Government’s team of special advisers] will advise her against doing so.” Wow just wow.. https://nation.cymru/news/vaughan-gething-tells-eluned-morgan-he-wants-a-place-i |
A man with that amount of arrogance with a mixture of "poor me" has no shame. 70k a year, I wish | ![](/images/avatars/0.gif) |
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The tainted First Minister on 09:56 - Aug 29 with 1020 views | AnotherJohn | This saga is going to be long remembered as a low point in Welsh politics. | ![](/images/avatars/0.gif) | | ![](/images/icons/ignore-user.png) |
The tainted First Minister on 11:03 - Aug 29 with 993 views | Whiterockin |
The tainted First Minister on 09:56 - Aug 29 by AnotherJohn | This saga is going to be long remembered as a low point in Welsh politics. |
Why do politicians of all parties think they are something special, they are not. They are elected to do a job and well paid for it, just do it properly and honestly or get out. The next Senedd elections can't come soon enough. | ![](/images/avatars/9155.gif) | | ![](/images/icons/ignore-user.png) |
The tainted First Minister on 13:33 - Aug 29 with 943 views | Boundy |
The tainted First Minister on 09:56 - Aug 29 by AnotherJohn | This saga is going to be long remembered as a low point in Welsh politics. |
Welsh politics has been in the gutter for 25 years , ever since Blair decided we needed a talking shop filled with 3rd rate councillors whom have no redeeming features , just the ability to drag this country down to its current low, don't worry though there's room to go even lower as we'll see. | ![](/images/avatars/0.gif) |
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The tainted First Minister on 20:13 - Aug 29 with 871 views | Dr_Winston |
The tainted First Minister on 13:33 - Aug 29 by Boundy | Welsh politics has been in the gutter for 25 years , ever since Blair decided we needed a talking shop filled with 3rd rate councillors whom have no redeeming features , just the ability to drag this country down to its current low, don't worry though there's room to go even lower as we'll see. |
It's not just Blair's fault. Thousands of Morons in Swansea voted to pay extra for Cardiff's development because they were stupid enough to think that the powers that be would base the Senedd anywhere else. Cardiff voted No. If there had been just a few more smarter voters in Swansea we'd have been spared the thing entirely. | ![](/images/avatars/8802.gif) |
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The tainted First Minister on 21:30 - Aug 29 with 827 views | Boundy |
The tainted First Minister on 20:13 - Aug 29 by Dr_Winston | It's not just Blair's fault. Thousands of Morons in Swansea voted to pay extra for Cardiff's development because they were stupid enough to think that the powers that be would base the Senedd anywhere else. Cardiff voted No. If there had been just a few more smarter voters in Swansea we'd have been spared the thing entirely. |
I agree , we should have realised then that by needing a second vote there was only ever going to be one place it was going to be set up. Have you ever read Jac O Norths blog on how it came to be , a real eye opener to how power and being at the right place at the right time a can reap you a personal fortune much to the detriment to the rest of Wales which continues to this day. https://docs.google.com/file/d/0B4K4SZ2l1_qISS1DWDdPdEVFTFE/edit?resourcekey=0-r if only one page is available , open it in google reader https://docs.google.com/document/d/1BKValiOq7aSsCvUgevYiGHy2d6KJWXMr8HB7u5PHusQ/ | ![](/images/avatars/0.gif) |
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The tainted First Minister on 21:31 - Aug 29 with 827 views | Flashberryjack |
The tainted First Minister on 20:13 - Aug 29 by Dr_Winston | It's not just Blair's fault. Thousands of Morons in Swansea voted to pay extra for Cardiff's development because they were stupid enough to think that the powers that be would base the Senedd anywhere else. Cardiff voted No. If there had been just a few more smarter voters in Swansea we'd have been spared the thing entirely. |
Thought it was the voters of Carmarthen that carried the Devolution vote over the line. | ![](/images/avatars/8685.gif) |
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The tainted First Minister on 21:40 - Aug 29 with 815 views | Dr_Winston |
The tainted First Minister on 21:31 - Aug 29 by Flashberryjack | Thought it was the voters of Carmarthen that carried the Devolution vote over the line. |
I don't doubt that there were plenty of idiots across Wales who believed that voting to "take back power" was going to be one in the eye for Westminster without thinking for a split second about the possible consequences. Swansea as the second largest urban area provided more of these than most. As for me, it was one of the first things that I ever voted in as an 18 year old and I'm proud to say that I foresaw how things would go and voted No. [Post edited 29 Aug 22:34]
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The tainted First Minister on 17:39 - Aug 30 with 685 views | SullutaCreturned |
The tainted First Minister on 21:40 - Aug 29 by Dr_Winston | I don't doubt that there were plenty of idiots across Wales who believed that voting to "take back power" was going to be one in the eye for Westminster without thinking for a split second about the possible consequences. Swansea as the second largest urban area provided more of these than most. As for me, it was one of the first things that I ever voted in as an 18 year old and I'm proud to say that I foresaw how things would go and voted No. [Post edited 29 Aug 22:34]
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Corruption bay eh, corrupt even before it was built and every bit as corrupt as Westminster. Welsh devolution is built on lies, we were all lied to so the rich could keep their wealth and add to it. ABP, political individuals and the lucky who were in at ground zero, they made money or gained good jobs and influence out of it all and the rest of us had to endure it and ever since then, watch Wales stagnate as Cardiff was invested in. The blind call this second city syndrome and jealousy, that they refuse to acknowledge the truth makes them even more stupid than they think those of us who call for better. | ![](/images/avatars/0.gif) | | ![](/images/icons/ignore-user.png) |
The tainted First Minister on 23:07 - Sep 7 with 520 views | Dr_Winston |
Absolute scumbag. | ![](/images/avatars/8802.gif) |
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The tainted First Minister on 08:29 - Sep 8 with 448 views | Boundy | He wont be missed , pity he doesn't take the rest of the herd with him but in 2026 who knows he might . | ![](/images/avatars/0.gif) |
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The tainted First Minister on 08:54 - Sep 8 with 442 views | Joesus_Of_Narbereth |
The tainted First Minister on 23:07 - Sep 7 by Dr_Winston | Absolute scumbag. |
You’ll be called racist in a minute. | ![](/images/avatars/29499.gif) |
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The tainted First Minister on 08:58 - Sep 8 with 436 views | raynor94 |
Ooooh toys have come out of the pram, good riddance to him | ![](/images/avatars/8653.gif) |
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The tainted First Minister on 10:14 - Sep 8 with 418 views | AnotherJohn | Interesting new book that I heard reviewed by Laurie Taylor on Radio 4: Born to Rule: The Making and Remaking of the British Elite https://www.amazon.co.uk/Born-Rule-Making-Remaking-British/dp/0674257715 One of the key arguments is that the way privileged people describe their rise to powerful positions has changed. While in the past they were relaxed about describing the advantages they enjoyed from education and social connections, they now present an outward picture of being ordinary people who advanced through merit. For example, a number of senior politicians include in their list of interests in Who's Who, "drinking beer". The analysis in the book is perhaps not the whole truth but interesting. One snippet that caught my eye is that the % of members of Starmer's cabinet who received at least some private education is much lower (17%) than in Sunak's cabinet (c70%) or indeed any recent cabinet. Mind you if the new breed are all like Angela that could be a mixed blessing. I thought this might be good background reading for Cat and help his politicians "are all the same" thesis. | ![](/images/avatars/0.gif) | | ![](/images/icons/ignore-user.png) |
The tainted First Minister on 10:42 - Sep 8 with 375 views | union_jack |
The tainted First Minister on 23:07 - Sep 7 by Dr_Winston | Absolute scumbag. |
What a fall from grace. From the top to the bottom in record time. Must be a Swans supporter😂😂 | ![](/images/avatars/8799.gif) |
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The tainted First Minister on 10:59 - Sep 8 with 342 views | raynor94 |
The tainted First Minister on 10:42 - Sep 8 by union_jack | What a fall from grace. From the top to the bottom in record time. Must be a Swans supporter😂😂 |
And a relative of Liz Truss😉 | ![](/images/avatars/8653.gif) |
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The tainted First Minister on 13:27 - Sep 8 with 305 views | SullutaCreturned |
The tainted First Minister on 10:14 - Sep 8 by AnotherJohn | Interesting new book that I heard reviewed by Laurie Taylor on Radio 4: Born to Rule: The Making and Remaking of the British Elite https://www.amazon.co.uk/Born-Rule-Making-Remaking-British/dp/0674257715 One of the key arguments is that the way privileged people describe their rise to powerful positions has changed. While in the past they were relaxed about describing the advantages they enjoyed from education and social connections, they now present an outward picture of being ordinary people who advanced through merit. For example, a number of senior politicians include in their list of interests in Who's Who, "drinking beer". The analysis in the book is perhaps not the whole truth but interesting. One snippet that caught my eye is that the % of members of Starmer's cabinet who received at least some private education is much lower (17%) than in Sunak's cabinet (c70%) or indeed any recent cabinet. Mind you if the new breed are all like Angela that could be a mixed blessing. I thought this might be good background reading for Cat and help his politicians "are all the same" thesis. |
Ah, maybe I should add something to my thesis. Politicians weren't all the same before they went into politics, they don't all come from the same backgroundo behave the same. That happens after a few years in the great game. Once they've learned how it all works, then they become part of the political class properly, that or they are doomed to a lifetime on the back benches. Those who willingly embrace the great game, they are the ones who are all the same. They are the vain, the greedy, the liars, the selfish and self serving who will end up in the upper reaches of the great game, they will become ministers and a few will make it to PM. Some of them will even be criminals. The very kind of people we should never allow to have any power. | ![](/images/avatars/0.gif) | | ![](/images/icons/ignore-user.png) |
The tainted First Minister on 16:15 - Sep 8 with 256 views | majorraglan |
Adios hombre. It’s time for him to saddle up and get the heck out of Dodge. In my opinion he’s let himself and more importantly us down with some of his actions and conduct. I wonder if he’ll reappear as a head of a quango or similar? Wouldn’t be surprised. | ![](/images/avatars/0.gif) | | ![](/images/icons/ignore-user.png) |
The tainted First Minister on 16:54 - Sep 8 with 218 views | Whiterockin |
A spineless creature, he hasn't even got the balls to do the right thing, If he was a man he would walk now and enforce a bye election. | ![](/images/avatars/9155.gif) | | ![](/images/icons/ignore-user.png) |
The tainted First Minister on 23:24 - Sep 8 with 125 views | Luther27 |
The tainted First Minister on 16:15 - Sep 8 by majorraglan | Adios hombre. It’s time for him to saddle up and get the heck out of Dodge. In my opinion he’s let himself and more importantly us down with some of his actions and conduct. I wonder if he’ll reappear as a head of a quango or similar? Wouldn’t be surprised. |
It will be very interesting to see where this muppet pops up next. Whoever employs him I’d sell any shares in that company pronto. | ![](/images/avatars/0.gif) |
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