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Swansea City: Andy Fisher; Joel Latibeaudiere, Ben Cabango, Nathan Wood; Matty Sorinola, Joe Allen, Matt Grimes (captain), Ryan Manning; Morgan Whittaker, Ollie Cooper; Joel Piroe.

Substitutes: Andreas Søndergaard, Jay Fulton, Harry Darling, Olivier Ntcham, Luke Cundle, Liam Cullen, Liam Walsh.

Rotherham United: Viktor Johansson, Conor Coventry, Tariqe Fosu-Henry, Jordan Hugill, Chiedozie Ogbene, Shane Ferguson, Olivier Rathbone (captain), Lee Peltier, Cam Humphreys, Bailey Wright, Leo Hjelde.

Substitutes: Josh Vickers, Wes Harding, Cohen Bramall, Georgie Kelly, Conor Washington, Jamie Lindsay, Hakeem Odoffin.

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Swansea City v Rotherham United : MATCHDAY Matchday Thread 2022/23 on 14:04 - Feb 28 with 1321 viewskrunchykarrot

Swansea City v Rotherham United : MATCHDAY Matchday Thread 2022/23 on 13:39 - Feb 28 by angryjack

The cabango is laughable,too stiff too slow,can't pass under pressure,moves uis feet too slow,seen the qe2 turn quicker..


I tend to agree with you, but he is not playing at CH, 3 at the back leaves them exposed to Ogbene etc when our slow wing backs have pushed on and any cross ball in behind causes panic.
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Swansea City v Rotherham United : MATCHDAY Matchday Thread 2022/23 on 14:57 - Feb 28 with 1260 viewsFlashberryjack

Swansea City v Rotherham United : MATCHDAY Matchday Thread 2022/23 on 00:22 - Feb 28 by LittleEnglandJack

Haven't posted in a while because to be honest I've just been so jaded by it all, but wanted to share a few observations...

Rotherham were absolutely awful but fully deserving of a point, and arguably should've nicked all 3. As soon as they flashed the stat that Rotherham haven't won a single point after going behind away from home all season you just knew they'd take something from the game- it's the Swansea way to help opposition teams/players break their ducks.

Whoever picked the game for Sky must be a sadist because I sincerely doubt any neutral sat through all 90+5 minutes of that.

Lati, god bless him, tries but should be nowhere near a championship team. In fact all three central defenders looked comically uncomfortable on the ball at times.

The team's confidence is completely shot. You just can't play the way RM tries to when that's the case. Doesn't work, end of story.

Swansea City must be one of the few teams to concede to a player sat on his backside six yards out. Comical defending all round, especially from Manning who perhaps understandably is planning his exit from the creeping sense of inevitable doom pervading the club. Good ball for our goal though.

Cooper tried but was uncharacteristically poor, looked like a boy playing against men, and should have been hooked.

Joey just looks past it to be honest. Sadly.

We are a significantly better team with Benda in goal, and once it was confirmed he was out for the season and we didn't sign proper competition for Fisher I knew we'd struggle for the remainder.

And yet, for all of the above, I just can't help but think things might (might) look quite a bit different if we didn't go down to 10 and subsequently capitulate at home to Birmingham. That and the Window debacle was the sucker punch that did for us, but even then it would still only have papered over obvious cracks.

I don't think there's a way forward from here under RM. In truth many of us have known this for some time, but he's had an uncanny ability to pull out a string of results when under pressure in the past to keep the faintest flicker of hope alive. Almost impossible to see how that happens now, especially with our fixture list.

I'm all for giving managers time, but unless we seriously invest in both players and coaching staff (set piece coach no.1 priority) this style won't work. We know that won't happen, so why waste everyone's time? I remember a few months ago one of the pundits on the Guardian Football Weekly Podcast called us a 'Poundshop Ajax'. At the time I was offended, but in hindsight he was spot on. You can't play Champagne football unless you are prepared to pay Champagne prices for the right players, which we evidently aren't. The squad is good enough for this level (if far from perfect), but not when they're directed to play like they are. That's not to say it's impossible to play passing football at this level on a budget- we've done it before- but this particular brand is asking too much of what is a limited squad.

Might it have worked out in different circumstances? Possibly. The board hasn't helped. But then I remember Martin went out and spent actual money on Andy Fisher and lose practically all sympathy for him. That has to have been his move, as was signing Darling. Whatever you think of Darling as a player, spending 1.5m on him and sitting him on the bench half the time isn't a good look.

All in all, it's just a bit depressing, especially as I'm not sure even sure sacking RM will actually achieve anything. We're going to limp over the finish line whether we do it with or without the Vegan Wenger. Confidence is shot to pieces, and sacking a manager who by all accounts is quite popular with the players probably isn't going to do wonders for that. And who comes in?

And yet, despite it all, I'll be at Kenilworth Road on Saturday. Mostly to tick it off the list, but I'll support the team and hope for a miracle.

STID


Excellent post.
The only thing I'd disagree with is the following:

"a manager who by all accounts is quite popular with the players"

Well, I saw a team last night that were definitely not fighting for a popular manager, in fact they looked like a team trying to get a manager the sack.

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Swansea City v Rotherham United : MATCHDAY Matchday Thread 2022/23 on 16:44 - Feb 28 with 1144 viewsonehunglow

Swansea City v Rotherham United : MATCHDAY Matchday Thread 2022/23 on 14:57 - Feb 28 by Flashberryjack

Excellent post.
The only thing I'd disagree with is the following:

"a manager who by all accounts is quite popular with the players"

Well, I saw a team last night that were definitely not fighting for a popular manager, in fact they looked like a team trying to get a manager the sack.


I get the impression young players are afraid of him and older players have nothing but contempt for him.
Why would anyone come to us now

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Swansea City v Rotherham United : MATCHDAY Matchday Thread 2022/23 on 18:16 - Feb 28 with 1066 viewsTreforys_Jack

Swansea City v Rotherham United : MATCHDAY Matchday Thread 2022/23 on 14:57 - Feb 28 by Flashberryjack

Excellent post.
The only thing I'd disagree with is the following:

"a manager who by all accounts is quite popular with the players"

Well, I saw a team last night that were definitely not fighting for a popular manager, in fact they looked like a team trying to get a manager the sack.


Despite what they say publicly, there is no way any player enjoys RM's tactics, apart from Grimes probably. Our tactics are making us a laughing stock, even clueless pundits like Clinton Morrison are taking the mick
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Swansea City v Rotherham United : MATCHDAY Matchday Thread 2022/23 on 19:50 - Feb 28 with 987 viewsonehunglow

Swansea City v Rotherham United : MATCHDAY Matchday Thread 2022/23 on 18:16 - Feb 28 by Treforys_Jack

Despite what they say publicly, there is no way any player enjoys RM's tactics, apart from Grimes probably. Our tactics are making us a laughing stock, even clueless pundits like Clinton Morrison are taking the mick


They were passing themselves really

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Swansea City v Rotherham United : MATCHDAY Matchday Thread 2022/23 on 19:52 - Feb 28 with 986 viewsKeithHaynes

Swansea City v Rotherham United : MATCHDAY Matchday Thread 2022/23 on 18:16 - Feb 28 by Treforys_Jack

Despite what they say publicly, there is no way any player enjoys RM's tactics, apart from Grimes probably. Our tactics are making us a laughing stock, even clueless pundits like Clinton Morrison are taking the mick


And he played for Ireland.

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Swansea City v Rotherham United : MATCHDAY Matchday Thread 2022/23 on 22:28 - Feb 28 with 877 viewsTreforys_Jack

Swansea City v Rotherham United : MATCHDAY Matchday Thread 2022/23 on 19:52 - Feb 28 by KeithHaynes

And he played for Ireland.


No pun intended
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Swansea City v Rotherham United : MATCHDAY Matchday Thread 2022/23 on 22:42 - Feb 28 with 872 viewsBoundy

Swansea City v Rotherham United : MATCHDAY Matchday Thread 2022/23 on 14:57 - Feb 28 by Flashberryjack

Excellent post.
The only thing I'd disagree with is the following:

"a manager who by all accounts is quite popular with the players"

Well, I saw a team last night that were definitely not fighting for a popular manager, in fact they looked like a team trying to get a manager the sack.


I agree , certainly the first half they looked to deliberately slow the game down with incessant side ways back passess just yo prove to the Manager that they would follow his instructions, no matter what . One laughable moment was at half time when we came back out the players had a little one two session as a warm up , really

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Swansea City v Rotherham United : MATCHDAY Matchday Thread 2022/23 on 09:45 - Mar 1 with 761 viewsonehunglow

Swansea City v Rotherham United : MATCHDAY Matchday Thread 2022/23 on 22:42 - Feb 28 by Boundy

I agree , certainly the first half they looked to deliberately slow the game down with incessant side ways back passess just yo prove to the Manager that they would follow his instructions, no matter what . One laughable moment was at half time when we came back out the players had a little one two session as a warm up , really


Morning boundy.
That said,have not any of them the balls to stand up and say to him they ain’t doing it anymore. Player power really but then then need a captain of some standing .
They are not enjoying their work.
They can change even if the coach wont

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