| jesse marsch 15:32 - Feb 12 with 9448 views | saint22 |
It would seem there is a meeting with him tomorrow......
After he just left leeds???
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| jesse marsch on 17:27 - Feb 13 with 1930 views | Scoot |
The Southampton way. Hire a coach that's just been sacked for leading another Premiership club into a similar position as us. How does any right-minded individual think he's going to do a better job with our players rather than the Leeds players when in every position on the pitch they're stronger than us?
We need to do better than that and stop excepting the shiitest, cheapest bargain basement option on the market that in the long run will cost the fans and the club millions
We should have got rid of Ralph at one end of the season not the middle. I truly think given a striker in the summer we might be higher in the table under Ralph | |
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| jesse marsch on 18:07 - Feb 13 with 1817 views | grumpy |
Why on earth are we looking at Jesse Marsch?
Just sacked by Leeds for his results in the Premiership,sounds familiar.
To be honest I would give the reigns to Rubén Sellés until the end of the season.
Who of any quality is going to take the job with us adrift at the bottom of the table.
Wait until next season when we are a Championship side with a good chance of returning to the premiership(,if we keep at least a few of our best players ) its more attractive to the right man.
I think Ralph was struggling this season and I thought he should go but if he had been given the players we have bought recently he would have kept us up,anyway that's water under the bridge now. [Post edited 13 Feb 2023 18:12]
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| jesse marsch on 18:17 - Feb 13 with 1786 views | Bazza |
| jesse marsch on 18:07 - Feb 13 by grumpy |
Why on earth are we looking at Jesse Marsch?
Just sacked by Leeds for his results in the Premiership,sounds familiar.
To be honest I would give the reigns to Rubén Sellés until the end of the season.
Who of any quality is going to take the job with us adrift at the bottom of the table.
Wait until next season when we are a Championship side with a good chance of returning to the premiership(,if we keep at least a few of our best players ) its more attractive to the right man.
I think Ralph was struggling this season and I thought he should go but if he had been given the players we have bought recently he would have kept us up,anyway that's water under the bridge now. [Post edited 13 Feb 2023 18:12]
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I agree, Grumps. Why rush to pick up some reject who maybe is joining in the sole hope of getting a big bonus to keep us up but will take several games to assess the players when Selles is already very knowledgeable. | | | |
| jesse marsch on 18:19 - Feb 13 with 1778 views | saint22 |
| jesse marsch on 18:17 - Feb 13 by Bazza |
I agree, Grumps. Why rush to pick up some reject who maybe is joining in the sole hope of getting a big bonus to keep us up but will take several games to assess the players when Selles is already very knowledgeable. |
Selles knows the players and the squads weaknesses he has seen it first hand under two failing managers, give him a shot
The only caveat here is if he is responsible for their poor showing under those managers? | | | |
| jesse marsch on 18:41 - Feb 13 with 1741 views | 1885_SFC |
| jesse marsch on 18:07 - Feb 13 by grumpy |
Why on earth are we looking at Jesse Marsch?
Just sacked by Leeds for his results in the Premiership,sounds familiar.
To be honest I would give the reigns to Rubén Sellés until the end of the season.
Who of any quality is going to take the job with us adrift at the bottom of the table.
Wait until next season when we are a Championship side with a good chance of returning to the premiership(,if we keep at least a few of our best players ) its more attractive to the right man.
I think Ralph was struggling this season and I thought he should go but if he had been given the players we have bought recently he would have kept us up,anyway that's water under the bridge now. [Post edited 13 Feb 2023 18:12]
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I would rather have Jesse Marsch in charge for the rest of the season than that chancer Jones. |  |
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| jesse marsch on 19:25 - Feb 13 with 1674 views | Southamptonfan |
| jesse marsch on 18:07 - Feb 13 by grumpy |
Why on earth are we looking at Jesse Marsch?
Just sacked by Leeds for his results in the Premiership,sounds familiar.
To be honest I would give the reigns to Rubén Sellés until the end of the season.
Who of any quality is going to take the job with us adrift at the bottom of the table.
Wait until next season when we are a Championship side with a good chance of returning to the premiership(,if we keep at least a few of our best players ) its more attractive to the right man.
I think Ralph was struggling this season and I thought he should go but if he had been given the players we have bought recently he would have kept us up,anyway that's water under the bridge now. [Post edited 13 Feb 2023 18:12]
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Why are we looking at Jessy Marsch? Because he delivered a great escape with a PL side, this time last year, similar to what we need now. Plus, there isn't much of a selection available. Same as when we sacked Ralph, the very top managers won't come here, so that's what we are stuck with I'm afraid. I'm not sure if Jesse Marsch would be a long term success, but he has proven he can pull off a great escape in the PL, so I can see the logic. He may just be appointed until the end of the season. He has kept up one PL club, when they were in trouble, why can't he do the same here? That's the logic, I suspect.
He got sacked at Leeds but Leeds had a lot of injuries to contend with and some top players were sold. Strachan was sacked at Coventry before being appointed here. Personally, I would support him if appointed and feel much more confident with him in charge than Jones. [Post edited 13 Feb 2023 19:32]
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| jesse marsch on 19:45 - Feb 13 with 1645 views | DorsetIan |
Does anyone know:
Is Jesse Marsch able to work out who his best 11 is?
Can he use subs effectively?
Does he know how to manage a game?
...because both Ralph and Jones were incorrigible tinkerers and both of them were easily blown off course by the other side changing tack and/or working us out. And let’s not talk about their use of subs. | |
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| jesse marsch on 20:15 - Feb 13 with 1574 views | dirk_doone |
| jesse marsch on 19:25 - Feb 13 by Southamptonfan |
Why are we looking at Jessy Marsch? Because he delivered a great escape with a PL side, this time last year, similar to what we need now. Plus, there isn't much of a selection available. Same as when we sacked Ralph, the very top managers won't come here, so that's what we are stuck with I'm afraid. I'm not sure if Jesse Marsch would be a long term success, but he has proven he can pull off a great escape in the PL, so I can see the logic. He may just be appointed until the end of the season. He has kept up one PL club, when they were in trouble, why can't he do the same here? That's the logic, I suspect.
He got sacked at Leeds but Leeds had a lot of injuries to contend with and some top players were sold. Strachan was sacked at Coventry before being appointed here. Personally, I would support him if appointed and feel much more confident with him in charge than Jones. [Post edited 13 Feb 2023 19:32]
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Great escape? Leeds were 16th when Marsch took over from Bielsea. They finished 17th, only because of a 2-1 win against mid-table Brentford, who had nothing to play for, on the final day. He was the one who got them into deep relegation trouble, and, like Nathan Jones did here, he had a run of relatively easy fixtures.
Leeds fans are lovng the prospect of him coming here:
"To go from Nathan Jones and his waffle to Jesse Marsch and his waffle is pretty cruel :lol:"
"I kind of hope Marsch gets the job then gets them relegated"
In many ways, he'd be a similar type of appointment to Jones. They've both failed in the past (Jones at Stoke; Marsch at Montreal, Leipzig & Leeds) and suffer from imposter syndrome at this level. Hence the nervous, embarrassing waffle when they are interviewed. [Post edited 13 Feb 2023 20:36]
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| jesse marsch on 20:40 - Feb 13 with 1503 views | Southamptonfan |
| jesse marsch on 20:15 - Feb 13 by dirk_doone |
Great escape? Leeds were 16th when Marsch took over from Bielsea. They finished 17th, only because of a 2-1 win against mid-table Brentford, who had nothing to play for, on the final day. He was the one who got them into deep relegation trouble, and, like Nathan Jones did here, he had a run of relatively easy fixtures.
Leeds fans are lovng the prospect of him coming here:
"To go from Nathan Jones and his waffle to Jesse Marsch and his waffle is pretty cruel :lol:"
"I kind of hope Marsch gets the job then gets them relegated"
In many ways, he'd be a similar type of appointment to Jones. They've both failed in the past (Jones at Stoke; Marsch at Montreal, Leipzig & Leeds) and suffer from imposter syndrome at this level. Hence the nervous, embarrassing waffle when they are interviewed. [Post edited 13 Feb 2023 20:36]
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It's different to Jones. He had never managed in the PL. Marsch has won PL games and managed PL players. Leeds had lost about 5 in a row when he took over. He kept them up. Who would you like? | |
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| jesse marsch on 20:46 - Feb 13 with 1478 views | dirk_doone |
| jesse marsch on 20:40 - Feb 13 by Southamptonfan |
It's different to Jones. He had never managed in the PL. Marsch has won PL games and managed PL players. Leeds had lost about 5 in a row when he took over. He kept them up. Who would you like? |
I would take half a dozen of the names litted in the betting in preference to Marsch: Pochettino, Gallardo, Bielsa, Moore, even Gerrard. But of those we could realistically get, my personal choice would be Bilic. Pochettino would be the dream but I can't see him wanting to come back here. [Post edited 13 Feb 2023 20:54]
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| jesse marsch on 20:57 - Feb 13 with 1431 views | UTS1885 |
Ive been looking at what leeds fans have been saying on his demise and it more or less replicates, what weve been seeing this season. Players lost on formation, high press failing and exposing backline. Woeful defending. Not good enough for the premier league was a regular comment. One thing they really did hate about him was his americanisation of the game when he spoke. |  | | |
| jesse marsch on 21:02 - Feb 13 with 1410 views | UTS1885 |
I forget to add hes known as 'Yank Lampard' in the hills of leeds. | | | |
| jesse marsch on 21:05 - Feb 13 with 1401 views | grumpy |
| jesse marsch on 20:57 - Feb 13 by UTS1885 |
Ive been looking at what leeds fans have been saying on his demise and it more or less replicates, what weve been seeing this season. Players lost on formation, high press failing and exposing backline. Woeful defending. Not good enough for the premier league was a regular comment. One thing they really did hate about him was his americanisation of the game when he spoke. |
Did he say soccer?  | | | |
| jesse marsch on 21:05 - Feb 13 with 1400 views | dirk_doone |
| jesse marsch on 20:57 - Feb 13 by UTS1885 |
Ive been looking at what leeds fans have been saying on his demise and it more or less replicates, what weve been seeing this season. Players lost on formation, high press failing and exposing backline. Woeful defending. Not good enough for the premier league was a regular comment. One thing they really did hate about him was his americanisation of the game when he spoke. |
There are a lot of similarities to Nathan Jones. He's another typical Ankersen appointment. Ankeresn's said he likes to appoint people who've failed in the past because they'll have learned from their mistakes but he hasn't.
Although they look like rabbits caught in the headlights in post-match interviews, I can see both Jones and Marsch impressing with well-rehearsed waffle in their job interviews and Ankersen appears to be very easily impressed by that. [Post edited 13 Feb 2023 21:19]
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| jesse marsch on 21:06 - Feb 13 with 1399 views | Southamptonfan |
| jesse marsch on 20:46 - Feb 13 by dirk_doone |
I would take half a dozen of the names litted in the betting in preference to Marsch: Pochettino, Gallardo, Bielsa, Moore, even Gerrard. But of those we could realistically get, my personal choice would be Bilic. Pochettino would be the dream but I can't see him wanting to come back here. [Post edited 13 Feb 2023 20:54]
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Bielsa was also sacked by Leeds. Poch won't come. Gallardo not sure about him. He seems good but has never managed in the PL. Gerrard who was sacked by Villa? The man who would be off to Liverpool the first time he got the chance? Bilic yeah but I doubt he would come to a team bottom of the league. | |
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| jesse marsch on 21:09 - Feb 13 with 1390 views | dirk_doone |
| jesse marsch on 21:06 - Feb 13 by Southamptonfan |
Bielsa was also sacked by Leeds. Poch won't come. Gallardo not sure about him. He seems good but has never managed in the PL. Gerrard who was sacked by Villa? The man who would be off to Liverpool the first time he got the chance? Bilic yeah but I doubt he would come to a team bottom of the league. |
My point is, none of them are perfect but they're all better than Marsch.
It feels like Nathan Jones all over again. He was clearly the worst of the candidates yet he's the one we got lumbered with. | |
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| jesse marsch on 21:15 - Feb 13 with 1360 views | grumpy |
I would love to see Marcelo Gallardo take over,none of the players would mess with him.
Sadly, we should have gone all out to get him before Jones.
That would have been a bit too ambitious for our lot. [Post edited 13 Feb 2023 21:17]
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| jesse marsch on 21:22 - Feb 13 with 1318 views | SteveMoron |
| jesse marsch on 20:46 - Feb 13 by dirk_doone |
I would take half a dozen of the names litted in the betting in preference to Marsch: Pochettino, Gallardo, Bielsa, Moore, even Gerrard. But of those we could realistically get, my personal choice would be Bilic. Pochettino would be the dream but I can't see him wanting to come back here. [Post edited 13 Feb 2023 20:54]
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Pochettino 🤣🤣🤣 |  | | |
| jesse marsch on 21:30 - Feb 13 with 1298 views | Southamptonfan |
| jesse marsch on 21:09 - Feb 13 by dirk_doone |
My point is, none of them are perfect but they're all better than Marsch.
It feels like Nathan Jones all over again. He was clearly the worst of the candidates yet he's the one we got lumbered with. |
There isn't a lot of choice full stop. I really wouldn't want Gerrard. Listening to him in his Scouse accent, talking about his home club Liverpool, would be enough for me not to go anymore. He had a great team at Villa and still got sacked. At least Marsch had a poor team. Bielsa maybe butbhe also got sacked and Leeds conceded a lot of goals. He is also 67. Listening to an interpreter would probably annoy me too. [Post edited 13 Feb 2023 21:40]
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| jesse marsch on 23:54 - Feb 13 with 1132 views | Bridders2 |
The problem with Bielsa, Marsch and Ralf is that the all used a high press and other teams worked out how to play them eventually, and they shipped a lot of goals (especially Bielsa) which is why Ralph at least played more conservatively later. It didn't help him much as he had no firing strikers.
I'd stick with Selles for a while and see how he does. | | | |
| jesse marsch on 06:09 - Feb 14 with 1089 views | A_Saint_in_Stoke |
| jesse marsch on 16:56 - Feb 12 by 1885_SFC |
To be fair to Marsch, when at Leeds, he never really had a decent striker to pick from. Bamford was always injured and they struggled big time up front without one. The same could be said for Ralph in latter times.
Either way, we have to remember where we are at this moment in time & the very limited list of managers that would come to Saints right now. Money talks of course, but no manager will want a relegation on their CV. We are bottom of the pile & look very likely to go down. We could do worse than Marsch is my thinking. |
Very good summary. Idearly if he could accept a contract - until June , then we could re-assess on both sides, with a bonus for keeping us up. [Post edited 14 Feb 2023 6:16]
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| jesse marsch on 07:08 - Feb 14 with 1040 views | cocklebreath |
| jesse marsch on 21:09 - Feb 13 by dirk_doone |
My point is, none of them are perfect but they're all better than Marsch.
It feels like Nathan Jones all over again. He was clearly the worst of the candidates yet he's the one we got lumbered with. |
It’s nothing like Nathan Jones, as usual you’re going way over the top on someone. At least he’s a likeable chap and his teams play decent football. |  |
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