| Wigan Athletic 12:41 - Jul 1 with 12359 views | ChaffRAFC |
Enter administration with a 12 point deduction looming which would see them back bottom of the Championship.
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| Wigan Athletic on 08:39 - Jul 3 with 2859 views | BartRowou |
Hierarchy of Greater Manchester clubs (including Macc) should Wigan get relegated and start on -12 next season:
City/United
Rochdale
Wigan
Bolton/Oldham/Macclesfield/Salford
Stockport
Bury |  |
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| Wigan Athletic on 08:54 - Jul 3 with 2831 views | frenzied |
| Wigan Athletic on 18:52 - Jul 2 by 442Dale |
Those figures on wages make me feel ill. |
im assuming other costs such as maintenance..police costs,agents fees are not included? |  | | |
| Wigan Athletic on 09:17 - Jul 3 with 2797 views | Plattyswrinklynuts |
| Wigan Athletic on 18:52 - Jul 2 by 442Dale |
Those figures on wages make me feel ill. |
Interesting to see that clubs with relatively low wages to income seem to be those recently relegated from the prem, WBA, Hull, Stoke, Swansea. Presumably all receiving parachute payments which may distort their percentages. |  | | |
| Wigan Athletic on 09:29 - Jul 3 with 2766 views | ColDale |
| Wigan Athletic on 09:17 - Jul 3 by Plattyswrinklynuts |
Interesting to see that clubs with relatively low wages to income seem to be those recently relegated from the prem, WBA, Hull, Stoke, Swansea. Presumably all receiving parachute payments which may distort their percentages. |
was a frightening stat on the BBC yesterday that out of the £400m that the Prem Lge gives to the EFL, £240m of it goes directly to the 9 clubs most recently relegated from the PL for the parachute payments. |  | | |
| Wigan Athletic on 10:57 - Jul 3 with 2644 views | Dalenet |
| Wigan Athletic on 09:17 - Jul 3 by Plattyswrinklynuts |
Interesting to see that clubs with relatively low wages to income seem to be those recently relegated from the prem, WBA, Hull, Stoke, Swansea. Presumably all receiving parachute payments which may distort their percentages. |
The difference between the 'Haves' and 'Have nots' in the Championship is stark. The most lavish spending 10 times more than the most prudent on wages. That is collossal. And the lowest wage bill is more than 3 times the cap being proposed for League One. There is almost no hope of survival in the Championship for a newly promoted club. | | | |
| Wigan Athletic on 11:01 - Jul 3 with 2638 views | AtThePeake |
| Wigan Athletic on 10:57 - Jul 3 by Dalenet |
The difference between the 'Haves' and 'Have nots' in the Championship is stark. The most lavish spending 10 times more than the most prudent on wages. That is collossal. And the lowest wage bill is more than 3 times the cap being proposed for League One. There is almost no hope of survival in the Championship for a newly promoted club. |
May be of interest to some to see that Brentford are in the bottom four in terms of £ spent on wages yet they're chasing down an automatic promotion place and even if they miss out are likely to go into the play-offs as favourites. |  |
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| Wigan Athletic on 11:03 - Jul 3 with 2629 views | isitme |
| Wigan Athletic on 11:01 - Jul 3 by AtThePeake |
May be of interest to some to see that Brentford are in the bottom four in terms of £ spent on wages yet they're chasing down an automatic promotion place and even if they miss out are likely to go into the play-offs as favourites. |
I wonder how they are getting such good value for money? |  | | |
| Wigan Athletic on 11:12 - Jul 3 with 2610 views | ncfc_chalky |
It doesn't seem that long ago that Wigan was in the Premier League and all of its multi millions,even when they got relegated from there they must have received many more millions in parachute payments,is it because Wigan is more of a rugby town that it couldn't last? |  |
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| Wigan Athletic on 13:57 - Jul 3 with 2452 views | Ancoats_Blue |
| Wigan Athletic on 09:29 - Jul 3 by ColDale |
was a frightening stat on the BBC yesterday that out of the £400m that the Prem Lge gives to the EFL, £240m of it goes directly to the 9 clubs most recently relegated from the PL for the parachute payments. |
Appalling stat. It’s time parachute payments were done away with. They reward failure. If a club gambles it’s future by signing players up on unaffordable 5 year contracts then they need to face the music. 10 years ago when we first came into L1 and a play off push looked reasonable I thought we’d have a decent chance of trying to stay up in the championship. Scunthorpe were able to have the odd stint with a similar sized fan base. Now though the gap now between L1 and Champs seems to get wider each season. I’d love to see us go up but would expect a rock bottom finish without investment. |  | | |
| Wigan Athletic on 14:05 - Jul 3 with 2434 views | Ancoats_Blue |
| Wigan Athletic on 20:50 - Jul 2 by TVOS1907 |
It should also be a salutary lesson to those who think we should just 'go for it' and 'bust a gut' to get to the Championship. There seem to be an awful lot of pitfalls there for clubs of our size. |
Agree to an extent but getting promoted wouldn’t necessarily require spending beyond our means. If we budget for £X we spend £X or less whatever division. The ethos of the club doesn’t need to end. I may be wrong but I don’t recall Burton shafting themselves with silly wages and contracts when they were in the league above. No reason Dale or a similar sized club can’t follow their lead. [Post edited 3 Jul 2020 14:06]
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| Wigan Athletic on 14:12 - Jul 3 with 2398 views | D_Alien |
| Wigan Athletic on 14:05 - Jul 3 by Ancoats_Blue |
Agree to an extent but getting promoted wouldn’t necessarily require spending beyond our means. If we budget for £X we spend £X or less whatever division. The ethos of the club doesn’t need to end. I may be wrong but I don’t recall Burton shafting themselves with silly wages and contracts when they were in the league above. No reason Dale or a similar sized club can’t follow their lead. [Post edited 3 Jul 2020 14:06]
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You're right of course, absolutely no reason not to push for the Championship, but not by overextending ourselves financially
I think what TVOS was alluding to (and he'll no doubt correct me if i'm misinterpreting him) is the wailing on here and other media about Dale not pushing the boat out financially to try to achieve promotion. It was heavily suggested that older fans were completely out of touch with the yoof who want to see us succeed beyond L1 - as if any of us didn't. The criticisms came from some older fans themselves, i might add |  |
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| Wigan Athletic on 14:16 - Jul 3 with 2394 views | TVOS1907 |
| Wigan Athletic on 14:12 - Jul 3 by D_Alien |
You're right of course, absolutely no reason not to push for the Championship, but not by overextending ourselves financially
I think what TVOS was alluding to (and he'll no doubt correct me if i'm misinterpreting him) is the wailing on here and other media about Dale not pushing the boat out financially to try to achieve promotion. It was heavily suggested that older fans were completely out of touch with the yoof who want to see us succeed beyond L1 - as if any of us didn't. The criticisms came from some older fans themselves, i might add |
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| Wigan Athletic on 15:03 - Jul 3 with 2331 views | YadHoDale |
| Wigan Athletic on 08:39 - Jul 3 by BartRowou |
Hierarchy of Greater Manchester clubs (including Macc) should Wigan get relegated and start on -12 next season:
City/United
Rochdale
Wigan
Bolton/Oldham/Macclesfield/Salford
Stockport
Bury |
There's quite a few to insert in the gap twixt Stockport and Bury.
Curzon Ashton, Hyde, Droylsden, Ashton United, Altrincham, FC Unwashed of Moston, Rammy Utd, Radcliffe Borough and maybe more. |  | | |
| Wigan Athletic on 15:10 - Jul 3 with 2316 views | Nigeriamark |
| Wigan Athletic on 14:05 - Jul 3 by Ancoats_Blue |
Agree to an extent but getting promoted wouldn’t necessarily require spending beyond our means. If we budget for £X we spend £X or less whatever division. The ethos of the club doesn’t need to end. I may be wrong but I don’t recall Burton shafting themselves with silly wages and contracts when they were in the league above. No reason Dale or a similar sized club can’t follow their lead. [Post edited 3 Jul 2020 14:06]
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I think in their 2nd season in the Championship they lost just 100k & the other 22 clubs lost over 400m between them |  | | |
| Wigan Athletic on 15:21 - Jul 3 with 2310 views | electricblue |
| Wigan Athletic on 19:37 - Jul 2 by boromat |
This is nuts! Surely they can't be meeting financial fair play!!
I tried reading the FFP for the championship and it seems quite convoluted and if I read it correctly there's an 'allowance' each season that clubs are allowed to be over the FFP. So the rules allow them to lose more and more money every year? 
I hope I've read it wrong. |
Going off that and if its true what is the point of FFP if you get an allowance..
Tougher rules are need and adhered to otherwise many a top level team will cease and i presume some are close very close i presume..... |  |
| My all time favourite Dale player Mr Lyndon Symmonds |
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| Wigan Athletic on 16:05 - Jul 3 with 2255 views | ColDale |
Not sure how accurate this bet thing is. I've seen £50,000 placed at 25-1 which surely wouldn't justify it all given the winnings. | | | |
| Wigan Athletic on 17:38 - Jul 3 with 2138 views | electricblue |
| Wigan Athletic on 09:29 - Jul 3 by ColDale |
was a frightening stat on the BBC yesterday that out of the £400m that the Prem Lge gives to the EFL, £240m of it goes directly to the 9 clubs most recently relegated from the PL for the parachute payments. |
That is a shocking figure to pay for failure....... | |
| My all time favourite Dale player Mr Lyndon Symmonds |
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| Wigan Athletic on 14:25 - Jul 4 with 1928 views | scarrow |
The Championship didn't Yeovil any favours, 1 season and then a dramatic slide through the leagues |  |
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| Wigan Athletic on 20:57 - Jul 4 with 1724 views | EllDale |
The funny thing is that Yeovil weren’t disgraced in the Championship and nearly stayed up.
They missed two penalties in a home game, which, if scored, might have kept them up.
I also remember Colchester and Southend having spells in the Championship. | | | |
| Wigan Athletic on 21:54 - Jul 4 with 1657 views | TVOS1907 |
| Wigan Athletic on 20:57 - Jul 4 by EllDale |
The funny thing is that Yeovil weren’t disgraced in the Championship and nearly stayed up.
They missed two penalties in a home game, which, if scored, might have kept them up.
I also remember Colchester and Southend having spells in the Championship. |
They might not have been disgraced, but they were in the bottom three from October onwards, were relegated with a game to spare and are now in the National League, which is what I think the point was. | |
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| Wigan Athletic on 22:18 - Jul 4 with 1622 views | Salegraham |
| Wigan Athletic on 11:01 - Jul 3 by AtThePeake |
May be of interest to some to see that Brentford are in the bottom four in terms of £ spent on wages yet they're chasing down an automatic promotion place and even if they miss out are likely to go into the play-offs as favourites. |
Brentford still spending more on wages than they brought in, Financial Fair Play my ....... | | | |
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