radio bolton. 19:27 - Feb 11 with 119912 views | since58 | wtf is going on. last time I looked they were bottom of lge 1 yet still tonight they are the main game lge 2 looms yet STILL they are the main game fookin stinks. | | | | |
radio bolton. on 09:24 - Feb 14 with 4083 views | DiddyDave | Ok,it`s a Down Under thing then. As I said,it probably goes back to the amateur days of rugby union,especially in NZ. It infuriates me that`s for sure as I can`t possibly see how a team of humans can be an "it". Glad this bullshit hasn`t hit the pages and air over there. | | | |
radio bolton. on 09:29 - Feb 14 with 4060 views | AtThePeake |
radio bolton. on 23:54 - Feb 13 by DiddyDave | Back in the day the BBC and the ABC here in Australia,would employ proper sports journalists,now they just employ journalists. They come on,women mostly,reading from the auto cue thingamy and haven`t got a clue what they`re really on about. It`s cringe worthy,so amateurish,but this is what happens is this age of "equality". When I was a kid in Rochdale,many moons ago I must admit,the media always referred to teams in all codes as "they" or "them",now they call teams "it". Why? Is this PC again? Maybe it`s just an Aussie and Kiwi thing,staying in the amateur days of sport or summat? Anybody got an answer,Fitzo might know. |
Why would it be politically correct to refer to a team as 'it' instead of 'them'? | |
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radio bolton. on 10:24 - Feb 14 with 4003 views | James1980 |
radio bolton. on 09:29 - Feb 14 by AtThePeake | Why would it be politically correct to refer to a team as 'it' instead of 'them'? |
Isn't they/them the right on pc non binary term. | |
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radio bolton. on 10:31 - Feb 14 with 3989 views | TVOS1907 |
radio bolton. on 09:24 - Feb 14 by DiddyDave | Ok,it`s a Down Under thing then. As I said,it probably goes back to the amateur days of rugby union,especially in NZ. It infuriates me that`s for sure as I can`t possibly see how a team of humans can be an "it". Glad this bullshit hasn`t hit the pages and air over there. |
Well I'm against all forms of rugby so I wouldn't know, but neither can I think of a context in which it could be used where it would make any sense. Like ATP says, how is it referencing political correctness? | |
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radio bolton. on 10:38 - Feb 14 with 3972 views | Ancoats_Blue |
radio bolton. on 09:24 - Feb 14 by DiddyDave | Ok,it`s a Down Under thing then. As I said,it probably goes back to the amateur days of rugby union,especially in NZ. It infuriates me that`s for sure as I can`t possibly see how a team of humans can be an "it". Glad this bullshit hasn`t hit the pages and air over there. |
Isn't that just poor grammar and specifically the incorrect choice of pronoun? It doesn't make any sense to refer to a group of people as an "it". That's the sort of thing a child or non-native English speaker would do. It's nothing to do with PC. | | | |
radio bolton. on 10:41 - Feb 14 with 3968 views | Ancoats_Blue |
radio bolton. on 23:54 - Feb 13 by DiddyDave | Back in the day the BBC and the ABC here in Australia,would employ proper sports journalists,now they just employ journalists. They come on,women mostly,reading from the auto cue thingamy and haven`t got a clue what they`re really on about. It`s cringe worthy,so amateurish,but this is what happens is this age of "equality". When I was a kid in Rochdale,many moons ago I must admit,the media always referred to teams in all codes as "they" or "them",now they call teams "it". Why? Is this PC again? Maybe it`s just an Aussie and Kiwi thing,staying in the amateur days of sport or summat? Anybody got an answer,Fitzo might know. |
Not living in Australia I won't comment on the media there. But I know that the BBC uses female footballers as pundits occasionally. I don't think this is some PC GONE MAD stunt. An actual professional/ex-professional footballer regardless of gender knows more about the game than I do. | | | |
radio bolton. on 10:57 - Feb 14 with 3954 views | DaleiLama |
radio bolton. on 10:38 - Feb 14 by Ancoats_Blue | Isn't that just poor grammar and specifically the incorrect choice of pronoun? It doesn't make any sense to refer to a group of people as an "it". That's the sort of thing a child or non-native English speaker would do. It's nothing to do with PC. |
A team or club is an it, because there is one of them. A team consists of "several" members so it's they or them when referring to the group. You are spot on. Don't think the grammar police need calling in to investigate this one. | |
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radio bolton. on 11:51 - Feb 14 with 3917 views | dalenumber2 |
radio bolton. on 09:29 - Feb 14 by AtThePeake | Why would it be politically correct to refer to a team as 'it' instead of 'them'? |
Because 'team' is singular therefore it. | | | | Login to get fewer ads
radio bolton. on 11:55 - Feb 14 with 3908 views | TVOS1907 |
radio bolton. on 11:51 - Feb 14 by dalenumber2 | Because 'team' is singular therefore it. |
But that's 'grammatically correct', whereas ATP is challenging 'politically correct'. | |
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radio bolton. on 12:07 - Feb 14 with 3884 views | rochdaleriddler |
radio bolton. on 10:41 - Feb 14 by Ancoats_Blue | Not living in Australia I won't comment on the media there. But I know that the BBC uses female footballers as pundits occasionally. I don't think this is some PC GONE MAD stunt. An actual professional/ex-professional footballer regardless of gender knows more about the game than I do. |
Some proper boomers on here | |
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radio bolton. on 13:43 - Feb 14 with 3806 views | DaleiLama | Wiz Bolton, ze seagulls follow ze trawler, but in ze end, zey may just be like ze squirrel | |
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radio bolton. on 15:22 - Feb 14 with 3733 views | kiwidale | Wasn't the original question in regards to a supposedly neutral BBC commentary team using the term them which implies us regardless of the opposition? [Post edited 14 Feb 2020 15:24]
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radio bolton. on 16:44 - Feb 14 with 3663 views | todmordendale | Is it it init or not init ? | | | |
radio bolton. on 19:08 - Feb 14 with 3588 views | Mass_Debater |
radio bolton. on 16:44 - Feb 14 by todmordendale | Is it it init or not init ? |
You're not funny. | | | |
radio bolton. on 23:12 - Feb 14 with 3454 views | DiddyDave | Well,whatever the reason,here in Oz and over in NZ,sporting teams are always referred to as "it". Australia`s women`s team played China the other night. The bloke on the ABC said,"Australia scrambled a late draw with China last night,it equalised in the 92nd minute through midfielder Van Egmont". This is how they always report sporting events. | | | |
radio bolton. on 23:56 - Feb 14 with 3427 views | Scunnydale |
radio bolton. on 11:55 - Feb 14 by TVOS1907 | But that's 'grammatically correct', whereas ATP is challenging 'politically correct'. |
Americans et al have, for years, used the singular for teams, whereas we have, rightly or wrongly, used the plural. Hence, 'Arsenal has beaten Chelsea', as opposed to our usual 'Arsenal have beaten Chelsea'. To me, it still seems wrong to use the former, even though I'm aware it's probably the betterer English. | | | |
radio bolton. on 23:59 - Feb 14 with 3421 views | since58 |
radio bolton. on 23:12 - Feb 14 by DiddyDave | Well,whatever the reason,here in Oz and over in NZ,sporting teams are always referred to as "it". Australia`s women`s team played China the other night. The bloke on the ABC said,"Australia scrambled a late draw with China last night,it equalised in the 92nd minute through midfielder Van Egmont". This is how they always report sporting events. |
Heres hoping radio Bolt IT don't get a 92nd winner tomoz. FFS. | | | |
radio bolton. on 12:47 - Feb 15 with 3200 views | BlueMessiah |
So neither Wigan or Salford, both of whom have long away trips, warrant match commentary but Bolton at home do....yet again?? Their Bolton bias is truly embarrassing now. Personally i refuse to listen to the station at all these days. | |
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radio bolton. on 12:57 - Feb 15 with 3161 views | SuddenLad |
radio bolton. on 12:47 - Feb 15 by BlueMessiah | So neither Wigan or Salford, both of whom have long away trips, warrant match commentary but Bolton at home do....yet again?? Their Bolton bias is truly embarrassing now. Personally i refuse to listen to the station at all these days. |
It won't make any difference to Radio Bolton, but I also refuse to listen to their biased tripe any longer. Shame really, because it was once enjoyable in the days of Mike Brookes commentating on Dale games, but whoever is pulling the strings and in charge of match selection is ruining the programme. It's lost many listeners from what I can gather, and it's no surprise. Going downhill faster than a skier. | |
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radio bolton. on 13:11 - Feb 15 with 3118 views | TVOS1907 |
radio bolton. on 12:57 - Feb 15 by SuddenLad | It won't make any difference to Radio Bolton, but I also refuse to listen to their biased tripe any longer. Shame really, because it was once enjoyable in the days of Mike Brookes commentating on Dale games, but whoever is pulling the strings and in charge of match selection is ruining the programme. It's lost many listeners from what I can gather, and it's no surprise. Going downhill faster than a skier. |
What’s also funny is that when challenged about it on Twitter last month, Bill Rice got all defensive and said Bolton were NOT featured more than any other clubs, etc. Having been shown up, he’s now stopped responding to tweets and questions. | |
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radio bolton. on 14:44 - Feb 15 with 3051 views | BlueMessiah |
radio bolton. on 13:11 - Feb 15 by TVOS1907 | What’s also funny is that when challenged about it on Twitter last month, Bill Rice got all defensive and said Bolton were NOT featured more than any other clubs, etc. Having been shown up, he’s now stopped responding to tweets and questions. |
https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p07jgdkb/episodes/guide I'm sure the above link is by no means a comprehensive picture of this season's broadcasts, but a quick scan through the list would give Mr Rice & co some food for thought. | |
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radio bolton. on 15:49 - Feb 15 with 2972 views | since58 | Oh no IT Bolton losing. | | | |
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