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What is poverty? 18:52 - Dec 3 with 4406 viewsDarran

So,I’m parked outside the food bank in Neath and a couple pull up in a car,they get out and as they get out and walk towards the premises I notice they’ve both got bits of paper in their hands with I assume are vouchers for the food bank.
They go in and I can see them handing the vouchers to someone and they turn around and walk straight out and sit on the wall outside,I now assume that they’ve handed their vouchers in and are waiting for the food bank staff to get their food ready.
They then both take a packet of 20 cigarettes out of their pockets and light one then they both take an iPhone out of their pockets and start looking things up.

They seem to be able to afford cigarettes and iPhones but they can’t afford food.
Is that living in poverty or am I missing something? 🤷🏻‍♂️

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What is poverty? on 18:55 - Dec 3 with 2006 viewsLeonWasGod

Yep. You're missing knowing anything about them.
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What is poverty? on 18:59 - Dec 3 with 1989 viewsDarran

What is poverty? on 18:55 - Dec 3 by LeonWasGod

Yep. You're missing knowing anything about them.


Meaning?

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What is poverty? on 19:00 - Dec 3 with 1986 viewsdickythorpe

23yr old bloke, in work with me married and with a kid, always moaning about lack of money. Always putting bets on his iPhone.
Goes and buys a KFC family bucket for £17 and ate it all to himself after work yesterday.
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What is poverty? on 19:00 - Dec 3 with 1980 viewsbluey_the_blue

First world poverty, Dazzer.

Those iPhones were probably 2-3 models back, those poor people clearly will be shunned in their working class social grouping as a result.

Packet of ciggies are what £8.50 or more these days ( long time when I smoked ). You can certainly buy cheap food for that amount, to make a couple of meals. Obviously not ideal, but you'd think people would have their priorities straight.
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What is poverty? on 19:01 - Dec 3 with 1978 viewscimlajack

Could be picking up a parcel for someone else ?
2019 and food banks are needed in the U.K., how did it come to this ?
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What is poverty? on 19:04 - Dec 3 with 1960 viewsbuilthjack

Some abuse it yes. Others need it. Many others.

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What is poverty? on 19:06 - Dec 3 with 1947 viewsCatullus

It's all relative, I am poor relative to many people, very many people are poor relative to me. For true poverty though, on a mass scale we'd need to visit Africa and India.

Just my opinion, but WTF do I know anyway?
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What is poverty? on 19:11 - Dec 3 with 1934 viewsLeonWasGod

What is poverty? on 18:59 - Dec 3 by Darran

Meaning?


Meaning you don't know anything about them. You don't know who these people were, why they were there, what their fiancial situation is, etc.
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What is poverty? on 19:14 - Dec 3 with 1918 viewsNeath_Jack

What is poverty? on 19:11 - Dec 3 by LeonWasGod

Meaning you don't know anything about them. You don't know who these people were, why they were there, what their fiancial situation is, etc.


Yeah but hang on Leon, there's a massive chance here for the right wing knobs of PS to get absolutely outraged about something.

Stop spoiling it ffs, it's Christmas!

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What is poverty? on 19:14 - Dec 3 with 1918 viewsDarran

What is poverty? on 19:11 - Dec 3 by LeonWasGod

Meaning you don't know anything about them. You don't know who these people were, why they were there, what their fiancial situation is, etc.


Well they seem to be able to buy cigarettes and iPhones.

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What is poverty? on 19:17 - Dec 3 with 1902 viewsLeonWasGod

What is poverty? on 19:14 - Dec 3 by Darran

Well they seem to be able to buy cigarettes and iPhones.


Maybe they knicked them?
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What is poverty? on 19:19 - Dec 3 with 1891 viewsDarran

What is poverty? on 19:17 - Dec 3 by LeonWasGod

Maybe they knicked them?


Nick food instead then.

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What is poverty? on 19:20 - Dec 3 with 1888 viewsexiledclaseboy

What is poverty? on 18:59 - Dec 3 by Darran

Meaning?


You know nothing about them.

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What is poverty? on 19:22 - Dec 3 with 1881 viewslonglostjack

How does it work in the UK ? Can anyone just turn up? Here in good old Germany, people get “Berechtigungsscheine” from the social office. Builth is right, most people using the food banks rely on them. Get rid of them because there might be a few idiots abusing them ? Bluey probably would. Tells you all you need to know.
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What is poverty? on 19:23 - Dec 3 with 1875 viewsDarran

What is poverty? on 19:20 - Dec 3 by exiledclaseboy

You know nothing about them.


What do I need to know? I’m asking if cigarettes and iPhones are essential?

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What is poverty? on 19:23 - Dec 3 with 1870 viewsbluey_the_blue

What is poverty? on 19:22 - Dec 3 by longlostjack

How does it work in the UK ? Can anyone just turn up? Here in good old Germany, people get “Berechtigungsscheine” from the social office. Builth is right, most people using the food banks rely on them. Get rid of them because there might be a few idiots abusing them ? Bluey probably would. Tells you all you need to know.
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Nice supposition.

I don't think they should be got rid of, nor getting rid of social benefits. They need to be targetted at those who actually need them.
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What is poverty? on 19:28 - Dec 3 with 1852 viewsexiledclaseboy

What is poverty? on 19:23 - Dec 3 by Darran

What do I need to know? I’m asking if cigarettes and iPhones are essential?


Here’s a a short list of things you don’t know (about this situation specifically, if we went wider we’d be here all night):

1. Who these people are.
2. What these people’s personal circumstances are.
3. What these people’s financial circumstances are.
4. Whether they were at the food bank for themselves.
5. Whether they were at the food bank for a friend.
6. Whether they were at the food bank for a family member.
7. Whether they actually got any food from the food bank.
8. Whether they are disabled.
9. Why they were there.
10. Your head from your arse.

Hope that helps.
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What is poverty? on 19:30 - Dec 3 with 1839 viewsDarran

What is poverty? on 19:28 - Dec 3 by exiledclaseboy

Here’s a a short list of things you don’t know (about this situation specifically, if we went wider we’d be here all night):

1. Who these people are.
2. What these people’s personal circumstances are.
3. What these people’s financial circumstances are.
4. Whether they were at the food bank for themselves.
5. Whether they were at the food bank for a friend.
6. Whether they were at the food bank for a family member.
7. Whether they actually got any food from the food bank.
8. Whether they are disabled.
9. Why they were there.
10. Your head from your arse.

Hope that helps.
[Post edited 3 Dec 2019 19:29]


What has being disabled got to do with it?

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What is poverty? on 19:31 - Dec 3 with 1823 viewsbluey_the_blue

What is poverty? on 19:30 - Dec 3 by Darran

What has being disabled got to do with it?


ECB doesn't know about poverty.

He's got his own personal toilet at work, gold plated the rumour is.
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What is poverty? on 19:31 - Dec 3 with 1824 viewsexiledclaseboy

What is poverty? on 19:30 - Dec 3 by Darran

What has being disabled got to do with it?


Nothing. Or everything. That was my point. You don’t know.

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What is poverty? on 19:33 - Dec 3 with 1808 viewsDarran

What is poverty? on 19:31 - Dec 3 by exiledclaseboy

Nothing. Or everything. That was my point. You don’t know.


I see. 👀

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What is poverty? on 19:34 - Dec 3 with 1797 viewsNeath_Jack

What is poverty? on 19:23 - Dec 3 by Darran

What do I need to know? I’m asking if cigarettes and iPhones are essential?


Were they social workers or health workers?

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What is poverty? on 19:35 - Dec 3 with 1791 viewsGaryjack

What is poverty? on 19:06 - Dec 3 by Catullus

It's all relative, I am poor relative to many people, very many people are poor relative to me. For true poverty though, on a mass scale we'd need to visit Africa and India.


India don't give a fvck about their starving population. If they did, then they would address it before spending billions on space programmes!
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What is poverty? on 19:37 - Dec 3 with 1776 viewsFlashberryjack

What is poverty? on 19:14 - Dec 3 by Neath_Jack

Yeah but hang on Leon, there's a massive chance here for the right wing knobs of PS to get absolutely outraged about something.

Stop spoiling it ffs, it's Christmas!


To be fair I don't think anyone on here is "outraged" as a matter of fact most seem very sympathetic to the people using food banks.

Although I do feel Darran has jumped to conclusions regarding the people he saw at the food bank, he should never judge a book by looking at the cover, unfortunately some do.

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What is poverty? on 19:38 - Dec 3 with 1767 viewsexiledclaseboy

What is poverty? on 19:37 - Dec 3 by Flashberryjack

To be fair I don't think anyone on here is "outraged" as a matter of fact most seem very sympathetic to the people using food banks.

Although I do feel Darran has jumped to conclusions regarding the people he saw at the food bank, he should never judge a book by looking at the cover, unfortunately some do.


Imagine everyone judged the Darran book by its cover.

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