This alternative table garbage 19:55 - Sep 3 with 12273 views | bluenile | Don't know if anyone else read that alternative table article? Apparently based on where they thought every team was expected to be, not where they actually are, after 6 games. And I couldn't bring myself to look at the bit about "Swansea, papering over the cracks?" . . . . . . . . Christ on a bike! | ![](/images/avatars/8862.gif) |
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This alternative table garbage on 21:56 - Sep 5 with 1718 views | Dr_Winston |
This alternative table garbage on 21:53 - Sep 5 by Professor | And one of the reasons we love the game. The unpredictable, the mercurial. Sadly being hammered out of rugby. |
As players get bigger and stronger Rugby has gone the way of American football. A dull battle over yards on a pitch with occasionally free flowing bits. It was never a particularly exciting game before but it's stultifying now. | ![](/images/avatars/8802.gif) |
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This alternative table garbage on 22:14 - Sep 5 with 1687 views | JackSomething |
This alternative table garbage on 21:56 - Sep 5 by Dr_Winston | As players get bigger and stronger Rugby has gone the way of American football. A dull battle over yards on a pitch with occasionally free flowing bits. It was never a particularly exciting game before but it's stultifying now. |
As a long-time lover of both sports, I will argue all night long that NFL games are far more exciting than modern rugby internationals. You don't see things like a Mahomes no-look pass or an OBJ one handed catch over his head in rugby, those days are gone. The problem with American football is the ease of entry into the sport. It's not exactly something you can turn on and understand in 5 minutes. The length of matches and time difference also don't help. | ![](/images/avatars/9612.gif) |
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This alternative table garbage on 22:32 - Sep 5 with 1691 views | Dr_Winston |
This alternative table garbage on 22:14 - Sep 5 by JackSomething | As a long-time lover of both sports, I will argue all night long that NFL games are far more exciting than modern rugby internationals. You don't see things like a Mahomes no-look pass or an OBJ one handed catch over his head in rugby, those days are gone. The problem with American football is the ease of entry into the sport. It's not exactly something you can turn on and understand in 5 minutes. The length of matches and time difference also don't help. |
It's all a bit choreographed for my liking. One of the weird ways you can tell is by filming it. You can make movies about a lot of sports and it still looks genuine. Whereas all attempts to make a movie about football have been shit. No matter what they do it never, ever looks convincing. Escape to Victory was as close as they got. | ![](/images/avatars/8802.gif) |
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This alternative table garbage on 23:05 - Sep 5 with 1683 views | ploppy | The other part to Moneyball (haven't seen the film but have read the book) was that Beane analysed which stats were actually important i.e which ones had a bearing on the result. Some of the stats that had traditionally been used by "old schoolers" turned out not to have a bearing at all. So, Beane's goal was to find undervalued players based on the stats that actually mattered. Again, much easier to do that in baseball than football, I'd argue. | ![](/images/avatars/0.gif) | | ![](/images/icons/ignore-user.png) |
This alternative table garbage on 23:17 - Sep 5 with 1670 views | Tummer_from_Texas |
This alternative table garbage on 23:05 - Sep 5 by ploppy | The other part to Moneyball (haven't seen the film but have read the book) was that Beane analysed which stats were actually important i.e which ones had a bearing on the result. Some of the stats that had traditionally been used by "old schoolers" turned out not to have a bearing at all. So, Beane's goal was to find undervalued players based on the stats that actually mattered. Again, much easier to do that in baseball than football, I'd argue. |
The key thing Beane apparently focused on was on-base average as opposed to batting average. Something I argued for going all the way back to when I was a kid playing little league baseball. Baseball offensive stats focus way too much of batting average, but you rarely see a player's on-base average listed or discussed. Like Brad Pitt (Beane) said in the movie, "He gets on base a lot. What do I care if it's a walk or a hit?" | ![](/images/avatars/16372.gif) |
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This alternative table garbage on 11:39 - Sep 6 with 1562 views | NotLoyal | It's strange because I did an alternative league table and Forest Green are top based on the fact that Iron Maiden have never played in the FA cup. | ![](/images/avatars/25606.gif) |
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This alternative table garbage on 11:41 - Sep 6 with 1561 views | jasper_T | Stats are rubbish, aye. | ![](/images/avatars/0.gif) | | ![](/images/icons/ignore-user.png) |
This alternative table garbage on 11:46 - Sep 6 with 1548 views | Catullus |
This alternative table garbage on 21:25 - Sep 3 by Vincent_Vega | The biggest load of tosh I’ve read that’s not come from wales Online. Utter cr@p |
Walesonline had 2 stories yesterday, one about a table based on the average percentage you filled your stadium and one with a table of results purely from 2019, both a complete waste of time. Our stadium is 76% full on average which ranks us higher than Cardiff on 69% but it's entirely meaningless, wouldn't we prefer to be getting 22,000 in a bigger stadium? As for the other, it had only 18 teams because they had to remove the promoted and relegated sides, most teams had undergone big changes anyway. They have scraped the bottom of the barrel (for stories) so much, they've dug a hole big enough to bury a football stadium in! | ![](/images/avatars/0.gif) |
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This alternative table garbage on 10:41 - Dec 9 with 1355 views | hobo | Seems that these XG stats weren't so 'garbage' after all | ![](/images/avatars/10747.gif) | | ![](/images/icons/ignore-user.png) |
This alternative table garbage on 10:53 - Dec 9 with 1338 views | Chief |
This alternative table garbage on 10:41 - Dec 9 by hobo | Seems that these XG stats weren't so 'garbage' after all |
In fact in hindsight it couldn't be more accurate. Papering over the cracks is exactly what we were doing. I had hoped that the confidence from winning back then would produce better performances. Sadly it's gone the other way. The goals have dried up and the defence is leaky. | ![](/images/avatars/10698.gif) |
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This alternative table garbage on 01:59 - Dec 14 with 1262 views | jasper_T |
This alternative table garbage on 10:41 - Dec 9 by hobo | Seems that these XG stats weren't so 'garbage' after all |
I'm shocked. | ![](/images/avatars/0.gif) | | ![](/images/icons/ignore-user.png) |
This alternative table garbage on 11:47 - Dec 14 with 1169 views | DwightYorkeSuperstar |
This alternative table garbage on 01:59 - Dec 14 by jasper_T | I'm shocked. |
Welcome back. You missed a couple of great months watching the usual crowd defend Cooper and how we were playing simply because we were lingering towards the top of the table. You're just in time to see them remove their heads from the sand and realise they may have been wrong. | ![](/images/avatars/10660.gif) |
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