More from Birch on 17:53 - May 23 with 5130 views | Swanjaxs | Obviously the sooner we get Baston and the Ayews off the books the better, he goes on to say that we a resigned to losing Dan James and perhaps one or two others, if the one or two others are to be McBurnie and Celina then we would be royally facked | ![](/images/avatars/8955.gif) |
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More from Birch on 18:08 - May 23 with 5064 views | Dr_Winston | Get the sense that he knows what he's doing. Here's hoping he's not full of shit. Nothing in there that's surprising anyway. James would be off this summer even if we were cash rich. Shifting the legacy high earners is critical to the rest of the squad reshaping. If we can't shift the ones we want to lose we might have to shift ones we don't. All fairly obvious, but out in the open now. | ![](/images/avatars/8802.gif) |
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More from Birch on 18:11 - May 23 with 5022 views | magicdaps10 | Manager will have the final say yet we sign Routledge up to another year without a new manager in place. Views on that one? | ![](/images/avatars/11389.gif) |
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More from Birch on 18:11 - May 23 with 5019 views | DafyddHuw | Put the Ayews & Baston in our team next season. If they won't play, don't pay. Easy enough. | ![](/images/avatars/9181.gif) | | ![](/images/icons/ignore-user.png) |
More from Birch on 18:20 - May 23 with 4958 views | mynamesjeff1 |
More from Birch on 18:11 - May 23 by DafyddHuw | Put the Ayews & Baston in our team next season. If they won't play, don't pay. Easy enough. |
If Ollie and James go and we can’t shift these except loans then play the 3 up front I say. | ![](/images/avatars/0.gif) | | ![](/images/icons/ignore-user.png) |
More from Birch on 18:23 - May 23 with 4937 views | jack247 |
More from Birch on 18:08 - May 23 by Dr_Winston | Get the sense that he knows what he's doing. Here's hoping he's not full of shit. Nothing in there that's surprising anyway. James would be off this summer even if we were cash rich. Shifting the legacy high earners is critical to the rest of the squad reshaping. If we can't shift the ones we want to lose we might have to shift ones we don't. All fairly obvious, but out in the open now. |
At least he’s honest. If the legacy players go and we sell a couple, the new manager may have a bit of a budget. I’d rather that than be strung along again. | ![](/images/avatars/0.gif) | | ![](/images/icons/ignore-user.png) |
More from Birch on 18:25 - May 23 with 4921 views | Neath_Jack |
More from Birch on 18:11 - May 23 by magicdaps10 | Manager will have the final say yet we sign Routledge up to another year without a new manager in place. Views on that one? |
It's ok, Trev had a quick chat with Cam, and he's more than happy with it. | ![](/images/avatars/9278.gif) |
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More from Birch on 18:26 - May 23 with 4909 views | jack247 |
More from Birch on 18:11 - May 23 by magicdaps10 | Manager will have the final say yet we sign Routledge up to another year without a new manager in place. Views on that one? |
It is a bit of a contradiction, but he was one of our best players in the second half of the season and there’s probably not a big signing on fee. At least it signals the intent to play football. No way would we have re-signed Routledge if we were looking to bring in a Pulis type. | ![](/images/avatars/0.gif) | | ![](/images/icons/ignore-user.png) | Login to get fewer ads
More from Birch on 18:27 - May 23 with 4901 views | dobjack2 |
More from Birch on 18:11 - May 23 by magicdaps10 | Manager will have the final say yet we sign Routledge up to another year without a new manager in place. Views on that one? |
View - his one year contract is within our budget. | ![](/images/avatars/0.gif) | | ![](/images/icons/ignore-user.png) |
More from Birch on 18:47 - May 23 with 4799 views | Dr_Winston |
More from Birch on 18:23 - May 23 by jack247 | At least he’s honest. If the legacy players go and we sell a couple, the new manager may have a bit of a budget. I’d rather that than be strung along again. |
Think we'll have some leeway even if it's just the legacy players. Obviously more of one if others depart as well. With the sale of James and the departures of Fer, Olsson, Narsingh and the rest we're probably going to have made a big dent in the deficit. Shift the rest too and we're not far off an even keel IMO. | ![](/images/avatars/8802.gif) |
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More from Birch on 18:55 - May 23 with 4726 views | Landore_Jack | Chairman Trevor Birch does not have remit to sell club "I'm not entirely sure what their end game is, other than concentrating on the here and now and trying to fix the current cash situation we are in," he said. "Logic may say they might look to (sell) but that's not in black and white - it's not my brief." "What I am concentrating on initially is trying to bring the thing back on to an even keel and seeing where we go from there." "If the end game, if there is such a thing, is a sale, they haven't said that." "I think as far as they are concerned the end game would be getting back into the Premier League." https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/48383300 | ![](/images/avatars/19054.gif) |
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More from Birch on 19:00 - May 23 with 4680 views | thornabyswan |
More from Birch on 18:08 - May 23 by Dr_Winston | Get the sense that he knows what he's doing. Here's hoping he's not full of shit. Nothing in there that's surprising anyway. James would be off this summer even if we were cash rich. Shifting the legacy high earners is critical to the rest of the squad reshaping. If we can't shift the ones we want to lose we might have to shift ones we don't. All fairly obvious, but out in the open now. |
If the Yanks had put statements like this out a while back there maybe slightly more trust. OK we are in a hole at the moment but at least Birch is telling fans what is going on. More than Jenkins and the owners ever did they just hid behind silence. | ![](/images/avatars/0.gif) |
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More from Birch on 19:13 - May 23 with 4609 views | NotLoyal |
More from Birch on 18:11 - May 23 by magicdaps10 | Manager will have the final say yet we sign Routledge up to another year without a new manager in place. Views on that one? |
Huws left his notebook in Birchs drawer. | ![](/images/avatars/25606.gif) |
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More from Birch on 19:14 - May 23 with 4598 views | Dr_Winston |
More from Birch on 19:00 - May 23 by thornabyswan | If the Yanks had put statements like this out a while back there maybe slightly more trust. OK we are in a hole at the moment but at least Birch is telling fans what is going on. More than Jenkins and the owners ever did they just hid behind silence. |
Pearlman has previously made statements about the clubs financial position that tally largely with Birch's comments today, but nobody believed him because he is American. | ![](/images/avatars/8802.gif) |
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More from Birch on 19:22 - May 23 with 4537 views | Brynmill_Jack |
More from Birch on 19:14 - May 23 by Dr_Winston | Pearlman has previously made statements about the clubs financial position that tally largely with Birch's comments today, but nobody believed him because he is American. |
I think we’ve fallen on our feet with Birch. A real football man. We’ve been crying out for one for years | ![](/images/avatars/8686.gif) |
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More from Birch on 19:28 - May 23 with 4505 views | 3swan |
More from Birch on 19:22 - May 23 by Brynmill_Jack | I think we’ve fallen on our feet with Birch. A real football man. We’ve been crying out for one for years |
Let's hope we have. Only time will tell but his releases do come across as being done in a professional way by a professional. Could still turn out that he's saying a lot without saying anything at all. | ![](/images/avatars/0.gif) | | ![](/images/icons/ignore-user.png) |
More from Birch on 19:31 - May 23 with 4480 views | Badlands |
More from Birch on 18:11 - May 23 by magicdaps10 | Manager will have the final say yet we sign Routledge up to another year without a new manager in place. Views on that one? |
Had the hope been to keep Routs, and it seems tad was always the case, leaving him in limbo until a new manager is appointed would have probably seen him leave - and then there would have been another shitstorm about the Americans. From Birch's comments it appears to me that Routledge is being prepared for coaching or management at Swansea. A worry for me is the comment, "I will get him involved with what Leon and myself are doing because it’s important to have that conduit with the players and what we’re trying to do off the field.' That sounds like the captain's responsibility which could mean MVdH is unlikely to be with us - hope he is but ... | ![](/images/avatars/23858.gif) |
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More from Birch on 19:51 - May 23 with 4365 views | dobjack2 |
More from Birch on 19:31 - May 23 by Badlands | Had the hope been to keep Routs, and it seems tad was always the case, leaving him in limbo until a new manager is appointed would have probably seen him leave - and then there would have been another shitstorm about the Americans. From Birch's comments it appears to me that Routledge is being prepared for coaching or management at Swansea. A worry for me is the comment, "I will get him involved with what Leon and myself are doing because it’s important to have that conduit with the players and what we’re trying to do off the field.' That sounds like the captain's responsibility which could mean MVdH is unlikely to be with us - hope he is but ... |
I expect MVH to go - his contract extension would have been on the same or better wages and he is out of contract end of next season. They can the money to bring some one in on less wages. Carroll and naughton probably fall in the same category, dyer as well. Routs as club captain makes sense. Moved around before settling here. Not the legend of curt or Leon but 270 games isn’t bad for one club as you say one year contract with perhaps a possibility of back room staff makes sense all round. | ![](/images/avatars/0.gif) | | ![](/images/icons/ignore-user.png) |
More from Birch on 19:52 - May 23 with 4351 views | STID2017 |
More from Birch on 19:31 - May 23 by Badlands | Had the hope been to keep Routs, and it seems tad was always the case, leaving him in limbo until a new manager is appointed would have probably seen him leave - and then there would have been another shitstorm about the Americans. From Birch's comments it appears to me that Routledge is being prepared for coaching or management at Swansea. A worry for me is the comment, "I will get him involved with what Leon and myself are doing because it’s important to have that conduit with the players and what we’re trying to do off the field.' That sounds like the captain's responsibility which could mean MVdH is unlikely to be with us - hope he is but ... |
Fer was club captain, VDH was team captain. Routeledge could fill Fer's position, whilst VDH still remains team captain | ![](/images/avatars/21549.gif) |
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More from Birch on 19:56 - May 23 with 4337 views | Dr_Winston |
More from Birch on 19:51 - May 23 by dobjack2 | I expect MVH to go - his contract extension would have been on the same or better wages and he is out of contract end of next season. They can the money to bring some one in on less wages. Carroll and naughton probably fall in the same category, dyer as well. Routs as club captain makes sense. Moved around before settling here. Not the legend of curt or Leon but 270 games isn’t bad for one club as you say one year contract with perhaps a possibility of back room staff makes sense all round. |
Pound for pound Routledge has been a terrific value signing. If our drop down the league leads to an Indian summer for him, and the stories about him waiving a clause so he could play more is true so much the better. Certainly think he deserves to be held in the same kind of regard as many of the top players in our history, but then I've always believed that our modern day players get short shrift in comparison to the class of 75-83 when their achievements were considerably greater. | ![](/images/avatars/8802.gif) |
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More from Birch on 20:03 - May 23 with 4294 views | LeonWasGod |
More from Birch on 18:11 - May 23 by magicdaps10 | Manager will have the final say yet we sign Routledge up to another year without a new manager in place. Views on that one? |
Fair point. I'm happy with it, but if that means the new manager can't get in a target it doesn't look so clever. Too many unknowns to judge. Rather Routs than another failed signing, but maybe it'll mean us missing out on another Michu. Odds on it'll be the former, so it's probably ok. | ![](/images/avatars/21105.gif) | | ![](/images/icons/ignore-user.png) |
More from Birch on 20:48 - May 23 with 4117 views | union_jack |
More from Birch on 19:56 - May 23 by Dr_Winston | Pound for pound Routledge has been a terrific value signing. If our drop down the league leads to an Indian summer for him, and the stories about him waiving a clause so he could play more is true so much the better. Certainly think he deserves to be held in the same kind of regard as many of the top players in our history, but then I've always believed that our modern day players get short shrift in comparison to the class of 75-83 when their achievements were considerably greater. |
Routledge’s problem is that most of the years he has spent here has been in the PL, which didn’t suit him for the majority if that time. To be honest, I was all for getting rid towards the end of that era but must say that he’s been absolutely fantastic in the games he’s played this year. I hope he’s being lined up for a coaching position in the future. | ![](/images/avatars/8799.gif) |
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More from Birch on 20:53 - May 23 with 4085 views | Dr_Winston |
More from Birch on 20:48 - May 23 by union_jack | Routledge’s problem is that most of the years he has spent here has been in the PL, which didn’t suit him for the majority if that time. To be honest, I was all for getting rid towards the end of that era but must say that he’s been absolutely fantastic in the games he’s played this year. I hope he’s being lined up for a coaching position in the future. |
Certainly not the majority. He was good bordering on excellent from 2011-2015. Last couple of years he lost his way, and had we stayed in the Prem then getting shot would have been a no brainer. | ![](/images/avatars/8802.gif) |
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More from Birch on 20:56 - May 23 with 4070 views | ItchySphincter |
More from Birch on 17:53 - May 23 by Swanjaxs | Obviously the sooner we get Baston and the Ayews off the books the better, he goes on to say that we a resigned to losing Dan James and perhaps one or two others, if the one or two others are to be McBurnie and Celina then we would be royally facked |
Grimes, Socks, VdH, James out of the useful bunch all going. We haven’t seen the last of Tom Carroll. | ![](/images/avatars/9328.gif) |
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More from Birch on 21:23 - May 23 with 3968 views | jasper_T |
More from Birch on 20:56 - May 23 by ItchySphincter | Grimes, Socks, VdH, James out of the useful bunch all going. We haven’t seen the last of Tom Carroll. |
Think PL clubs will look past Grimes with Woods and Allen on the market and Stoke desperate to sell. And maybe Norwood gets his usual kick back down to the Championship after getting a team promoted. | ![](/images/avatars/0.gif) | | ![](/images/icons/ignore-user.png) |
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